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Once we're all dead, let's meet up in the Akashic records and you can admit that Jonny and me were right about everything.
 
beast blazer said:
Once again, you have no idea what you're talking about. Ukraine's military uniform is littered with Nazi symbolism. The current regimes embrace of Nazism and war criminals like Bandara was part of the original tension that lead to to people in the eastern regions wanting to separate for Ukriane.

Heck, even the NY times reports on it. Putin has stated that outsting these Nazi's is one of the key objectives.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/05/world/europe/nazi-symbols-ukraine.html
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Looks like that article confirmed what I said. Thanks for posting it.

That relationship has become especially delicate because President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia has falsely declared Ukraine to be a Nazi state, a claim he has used to justify his illegal invasion.

Ukraine has worked for years through legislation and military restructuring to contain a fringe far-right movement whose members proudly wear symbols steeped in Nazi history
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A guy on X posted this today, apparently not realizing it was from 2022, just before the invasion. But it's kind of interesting to look back and see how this group of retired military tried to warn Putin of his folly.
"Retired Russian Colonel-General Leonid Ivashov, the head of the All-Russian Officers Assembly, has gone public with a statement that calls for Russian President Vladimir Putin to resign over the confrontation involving Ukraine. To remove any doubt as to his message, Ivashov, 78, followed the public statement with an interview on a liberal Russian media outlet, Echo Moskvy, insisting that he was speaking in the name of the assembly of retired and reservist Russian officers which he heads. "
"To be clear, Ivashov believes that NATO is a hostile power, but his experience has taught him that the NATO/U.S. threat is under control and no external threat is imminent from the Western powers. The massive buildup of Russian troops on the Ukraine and Belarus borders, therefore, is not to deal with a threat from the West. Rather, it is to divert attention from the internal health, demographic challenges, living-standards collapse and pervasive corruption that the Russian citizenry is suffering under the mismanagement of an incompetent Putin regime. "
Ivashov’s solution: Fire Putin if he can’t be forced to resign and, if necessary, put him in prison for his “criminal policy of provoking war.”
https://thehill.com/opinion/interna...ls-criticism-may-signal-a-larger-problem-for/
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
A guy on X posted this today, apparently not realizing it was from 2022, just before the invasion. But it's kind of interesting to look back and see how this group of retired military tried to warn Putin of his folly.
"Retired Russian Colonel-General Leonid Ivashov, the head of the All-Russian Officers Assembly, has gone public with a statement that calls for Russian President Vladimir Putin to resign over the confrontation involving Ukraine. To remove any doubt as to his message, Ivashov, 78, followed the public statement with an interview on a liberal Russian media outlet, Echo Moskvy, insisting that he was speaking in the name of the assembly of retired and reservist Russian officers which he heads. "
"To be clear, Ivashov believes that NATO is a hostile power, but his experience has taught him that the NATO/U.S. threat is under control and no external threat is imminent from the Western powers. The massive buildup of Russian troops on the Ukraine and Belarus borders, therefore, is not to deal with a threat from the West. Rather, it is to divert attention from the internal health, demographic challenges, living-standards collapse and pervasive corruption that the Russian citizenry is suffering under the mismanagement of an incompetent Putin regime. "
Ivashov’s solution: Fire Putin if he can’t be forced to resign and, if necessary, put him in prison for his “criminal policy of provoking war.”
https://thehill.com/opinion/interna...ls-criticism-may-signal-a-larger-problem-for/
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Has Ivashov fallen out of window yet?
 
I guess I better post something or this thread will drop off the map.
“I spoke to Blinken two days ago, and he's traveling with his counterpart from the UK to Kyiv to essentially tell them that they will allow Ukraine to strike Russia with ATACMS missiles,” US House Foreign Affairs Committee Chairman Michael McCaul tells Axios reporter Julie Grace Brufke.
However,
@Tatarigami_UA
Great news if true. But honestly, I don't think it will have much impact, as Russia has moved many of its valuable assets deeper. Per my analysis, Ukraine urgently needs basic equipment to rebuild its brigades, like IFVs, artillery, shells, mortars, medevacs, tanks, coms, etc.
My own take is they need both. There are still plenty of targets besides airports they can hit with those rockets. But they definitely need more equipment for the brigades they have recently mobilized. Zelensky told the West this months ago. Also problems with Europe not supplying parts for worn out artillery in a timely manner.
On the positive side, Ukrain has developed a technique where they can drop burning thermite on russian trenches and they attacked Moscow airport (and other targets all over russia) last night with drones. I don't know if it has been mentioned here but Ukraine is now manufacturing their own powerful long range missile/drone.
 
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Here is more good news. I'm not reporting bad news, although we do know that russia has been making small advances in the east and launched a successful counterattack in the Kursk area (although some reports indicate this may result in the encirclement of a large russian force.
(for some reason I can't copy a twitter post unless it has a video attached.)
david D.
@secretsqrl123

some of what we do know today.. 1 one of the largest and newest ammo dumps in russia was blown up. this has resulted in YEARS of ammo production being "removed" from russian service. yes years.
2 a recon company from the 154th russian regiment was hit with a himars rocket.
3 a training ground was hit with at least 55 russian KIA.
4 a platoon from the 47th tank div gave up to a few ukr troops from the azov brigade
5 the cement plant in vorchansk known to be held by the russian 83rd brigade and 2 spetz has fallen. russians are shelling it now.
6 russians are saying that in kursk the 51st paratroopers are taking heavy losses and are stalled.
7 the 21st and 95th brigades are pushing into the rear of the 155th marines.. they (russians) are being engaged with leo2A6s and other western gear. not going well for russia.
8 russians on social media are saying that units near bakhmut have no more troops and are using everything they have (mechanics, cooks, artillery men, etc) just to hold the line.
9 the mirage 2000s from france are coming, they are coming with air to ground capability and no restrictions. the first ones are less than 3 months out.
10 the first german IFVs made in ukraine are less than 3 months out.
11 europe just "found" another 500,000 155 rounds....
12 ukraine is expected to hit 3 million drones this year
13 russians with the 1442 rgt are refusing to fight as infantry
14 russia state media is saying school children will be used to harvest food and fix rail ways due to the lack of people.
15 russian state media is reporting that now Defendents in crimes will be sent to the SMO till the court case comes up. so now being accused of something will send you to the SMO, not convicted..
16 many kids (conscripts) have given up in kursk in the last 48 hrs to ukraine forces..
17 reports from russian troops on SM state that troops going to the front in the central region of ukraine are only given 3 days of supplies.. its stated that is all they will need.
 
Hoping Ukraine surrenders soon. The sooner this is over, the safer the rest of the world will be.

Most people are like cattle, grazing in the field, going about their business, not knowing they're going to the slaughter the following day. We were a second a way from a nuclear holocaust last Saturday. If US leadership had not refused Blinken's insane plan to attack Russia with precision missiles, the world as you know it now would be over.

We aren't too close to any particular nuclear targets, so we'd probably be facing a slow painful death from the radiation and starvation.

And if you don't think the threat is serious, then why did we pull back?
 
Russia has nuclear submarines off our coast that could pop up and launch a barrage of missiles and we have a 0% chance of intercepting them all.

It's like picking a fight with someone who has a gun right at your head that you have no possibility to deflect. You can't win the fight, because even if you do, they'll just pull the trigger.

The only winning move is not to play. Listen to Matthew Broderick on this one.
 
beast blazer said:
Russia has nuclear submarines off our coast that could pop up and launch a barrage of missiles and we have a 0% chance of intercepting them all.

It's like picking a fight with someone who has a gun right at your head that you have no possibility to deflect. You can't win the fight, because even if you do, they'll just pull the trigger.

The only winning move is not to play. Listen to Matthew Broderick on this one.
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Yeah, the country that hasn't even been able to invade Ukraine has a "gun" pointed right at our head. The country that spend almost a billion dollars a year on their military, vs Russia.

Who, like I said, has been embarrassed by Ukraine.

Sure, they might have a gun to our head, but it's a nerf gun.
 
beast blazer said:
Hoping Ukraine surrenders soon. The sooner this is over, the safer the rest of the world will be.

Most people are like cattle, grazing in the field, going about their business, not knowing they're going to the slaughter the following day. We were a second a way from a nuclear holocaust last Saturday. If US leadership had not refused Blinken's insane plan to attack Russia with precision missiles, the world as you know it now would be over.

We aren't too close to any particular nuclear targets, so we'd probably be facing a slow painful death from the radiation and starvation.

And if you don't think the threat is serious, then why did we pull back?
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Always Surrender!

The threat we made was serious, it got Russia's attention as was intended.

You confuse messaging with plans. Repeatedly.

barfo
 
Fifty years ago, I was a missile launch officer in the Minuteman III program based out of Cheyenne, Wyoming. At that time, practically in the dark ages of electronic miniaturization and navigation, our warheads had a circular error probable (the area in which at least 50% of the warheads were expected to fall) of roughly one city block. This accuracy allowed our warheads to be much smaller than the Soviets’ because they couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn. We knew without doubt that our technology in that day would work because we tested it. Every so often, a missile was selected at random, pulled out of its silo, carted to Vandenburg AFB, had the warheads removed, and was then test fired by the launch crew who had been on duty that day. I never heard of a failure in the test program. I can guarantee you that our accuracy is much, much greater today. Russia’s nuclear arsenal is not to be dismissed lightly, but he knows there are land, sea and air based systems from multiple countries that would end his existence if he were foolish enough to actually attack NATO.
 
e_blazer said:
Fifty years ago, I was a missile launch officer in the Minuteman III program based out of Cheyenne, Wyoming. At that time, practically in the dark ages of electronic miniaturization and navigation, our warheads had a circular error probable (the area in which at least 50% of the warheads were expected to fall) of roughly one city block. This accuracy allowed our warheads to be much smaller than the Soviets’ because they couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn. We knew without doubt that our technology in that day would work because we tested it. Every so often, a missile was selected at random, pulled out of its silo, carted to Vandenburg AFB, had the warheads removed, and was then test fired by the launch crew who had been on duty that day. I never heard of a failure in the test program. I can guarantee you that our accuracy is much, much greater today. Russia’s nuclear arsenal is not to be dismissed lightly, but he knows there are land, sea and air based systems from multiple countries that would end his existence if he were foolish enough to actually attack NATO.
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You should understand the concept of mutual assured destruction. We would blow Russia off the map, but they'd take us as well.

No one that understands anything about nuclear war believes any one side could intercept enough to make a difference.

The psychology of downplaying this threat in order to be able to continue to support your tribe's insane stance is amazing.
 
beast blazer said:
Hoping Ukraine surrenders soon. The sooner this is over, the safer the rest of the world will be.

Most people are like cattle, grazing in the field, going about their business, not knowing they're going to the slaughter the following day. We were a second a way from a nuclear holocaust last Saturday. If US leadership had not refused Blinken's insane plan to attack Russia with precision missiles, the world as you know it now would be over.

We aren't too close to any particular nuclear targets, so we'd probably be facing a slow painful death from the radiation and starvation.

And if you don't think the threat is serious, then why did we pull back?
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News flash: They aren't going to surrender.
 
beast blazer said:
You should understand the concept of mutual assured destruction. We would blow Russia off the map, but they'd take us as well.

No one that understands anything about nuclear war believes any one side could intercept enough to make a difference.

The psychology of downplaying this threat in order to be able to continue to support your tribe's insane stance is amazing.
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We don't need nukes.
 
beast blazer said:
You should understand the concept of mutual assured destruction. We would blow Russia off the map, but they'd take us as well.

No one that understands anything about nuclear war believes any one side could intercept enough to make a difference.

The psychology of downplaying this threat in order to be able to continue to support your tribe's insane stance is amazing.
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You’re hilarious.
 
beast blazer said:
Hoping Ukraine surrenders soon. The sooner this is over, the safer the rest of the world will be.

Most people are like cattle, grazing in the field, going about their business, not knowing they're going to the slaughter the following day. We were a second a way from a nuclear holocaust last Saturday. If US leadership had not refused Blinken's insane plan to attack Russia with precision missiles, the world as you know it now would be over.

We aren't too close to any particular nuclear targets, so we'd probably be facing a slow painful death from the radiation and starvation.

And if you don't think the threat is serious, then why did we pull back?
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pretty sure Russia could withdraw and it would be over just as quickly.
 
e_blazer said:
Fifty years ago, I was a missile launch officer in the Minuteman III program based out of Cheyenne, Wyoming. At that time, practically in the dark ages of electronic miniaturization and navigation, our warheads had a circular error probable (the area in which at least 50% of the warheads were expected to fall) of roughly one city block. This accuracy allowed our warheads to be much smaller than the Soviets’ because they couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn. We knew without doubt that our technology in that day would work because we tested it. Every so often, a missile was selected at random, pulled out of its silo, carted to Vandenburg AFB, had the warheads removed, and was then test fired by the launch crew who had been on duty that day. I never heard of a failure in the test program. I can guarantee you that our accuracy is much, much greater today. Russia’s nuclear arsenal is not to be dismissed lightly, but he knows there are land, sea and air based systems from multiple countries that would end his existence if he were foolish enough to actually attack NATO.
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I thank you for your service!
 
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