Way too early trade suggestions

[SharpeScooterShooter]

Dame isn’t a plus defender.

And I doubt he is MVP type. But very good nontheless.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

Dame isn’t a plus defender.

Post you quoted didn't say he was.

 

[tlongII]

Post you quoted didn't say he was.

It certainly implies it.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

It certainly implies it.

How does a post that specifically says Dame is "not a very good defender" imply that he's a plus defender? Quite obviously, he's saying that Dame would be an MVP-type if he were a plus defender, but that he's actually neither.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

It certainly implies it.

It clearly does not. Sorry you weren't able to understand a simple statement.

 

[tlongII]

Hey guys, I know just the guy to get!
Older vet and great leader.
Elite shooting.
Not a very good defender, but elite shooters that are plus defenders are mvp type.
Super clutch.
Knows the terrain and has history with Portland.

Anyone heard of the player Damian Lillard?
He is pretty good and does what most in here are saying we need, it seems.

How many of our young guys would we need to give up to get him on the court and in a Blazers uniform by the start of next season?

How does a post that specifically says Dame is "not a very good defender" imply that he's a plus defender? Quite obviously, he's saying that Dame would be an MVP-type if he were a plus defender, but that he's actually neither.

 

[wizenheimer]

If we can get off either Grant or Jrue contract I'd trade them ASAP.

I don't see the urgency any more

forget about cap-space, Portland won't have any thru the expiration of the Jrue/Grant contracts

so the concern would be the tax line vs guarantees thru 2027-28; after which, the Jrue/Grant contracts expire

this season: tax line-->189M....tax space = 1.5M
2026-27: tax line-->202M....tax space = 36M (10 players-->(Thybulle/Timelord UFA. Rupert/Reath RFA)
2027-28: tax line-->212M....tax space = 57M (8 players-->(Scoot/Murray RFA)

it might get a little tight next season, especially if they re-sign Thybulle for 15M or so. But even if they did that still leaves 20M for a draft pick and to fillout the back end of the roster

I do not see any compelling reason to trade either Grant or Jrue. The only reason would be if there was a good offer

 

[SharpeScooterShooter]

I had to screen shot you becuase when i insert the quote, it isnt inserting. @Russ @Denny Crane

@tlongII Im not following. You bolded what i said. Are you missunderstanding that im saying IF Dame was a plus defender, he would be an MVP type?

 

[SharpeScooterShooter]

It certainly implies it.

Please reread. I think you are missing something.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

I don't see the urgency any more

forget about cap-space, Portland won't have any thru the expiration of the Jrue/Grant contracts

so the concern would be the tax line vs guarantees thru 2027-28; after which, the Jrue/Grant contracts expire

this season: tax line-->189M....tax space = 1.5M
2026-27: tax line-->202M....tax space = 36M (10 players-->(Thybulle/Timelord UFA. Rupert/Reath RFA)
2027-28: tax line-->212M....tax space = 57M (8 players-->(Scoot/Murray RFA)

it might get a little tight next season, especially if they re-sign Thybulle for 15M or so. But even if they did that still leaves 20M for a draft pick and to fillout the back end of the roster

I do not see any compelling reason to trade either Grant or Jrue. The only reason would be if there was a good offer

Even if that's all true I can think of a number of big advantages:

#1 would allow us to trade for a player without the partner wanting additional compensation. Say hypothetically in a Giannis trade to PDX, they'd take an expiring but with Grants overpaid deal would need a FRP attached

#2 Allows the Blazers flexibility to trade for someone that better accepts a bench or different role in the future.

#3 Avoids the risk of Grant/Jrue contracts becoming huge negative assets as they age and production decline

#4 salary luxury tax room give the Blazers options to add other players/assets in trades or signings. This doesn't mean only cap space and yes sometimes fans greatly overvalue how much this flexibility is worth. But it's still a benefit.

Now so far in 4 games yes Jrue and Grant have both played great. I'm concerned as hell that they are ticking time bombs though. If we can get salary relief or other benefits and get out of that risk - I'm all for it. With these guys being so far from their prime once our youth peaks and Dame replacing their leadership we don't really need them long term.