We got the #3 pick. Discuss the possibilities.

[Samuel]

This is encouraging to me:

https://open.spotify.com/episode/3wOMT925j5Yj9RJt4eqoPH?si=V007zU27SWakvtVZcEyQKA

Woj said there's not a player who is currently available for trade who is worth the #3 pick. And if it's Scoot at 3, the Portland will take him and try to figure it out. The value in having a guy on a rookie scale deal who could be an all star is really high and none of the guys on market at this moment meet that threshold, and the Portland FO apparently feels similar. Also mentioned how engaged Dame is and is probably aligned with this thought process for now.

This is the best news I've heard all week.

This is fantastic.

 

[Samuel]

The Blazers can make the pick, sign the player, and trade him later.

They could.

This is also rare. Teams get their guy on the podium, they hold up the jersey, they head to Summer League camp and meet the guys...

 

[Strenuus]

Godfather didn't give him any respect on the Radio. I was like , what, he's an All NBA player who is known for being a very good defender ,who can score and rebound. Some around this town seem to think the Godfather's word is gospel. Mostly the over 50 crowd, but some younger too. I love Rip City Radio, and Chad, but Jayne's takes on Dame, and potential additions is causing me ill health. He's paid for his opinion i know, but he comes off as very polarizing in his sports takes. They come off as almost political. And surprisingly un educated at times. I expect more from someone with his background.


I'm 59 with a Well Educated college grad daughter, and she educates me by calling out my B.S. Dad, you need to be better. She's right. I'm doubting that anyone, but maybe Chad , is doing that with Jaynes. Or maybe he's too far gone to care.

First thing you need to do is to stop listening to anything he says.

 

[illmatic99]

They could.

This is also rare. Teams get their guy on the podium, they hold up the jersey, they head to Summer League camp and meet the guys...

Andrew Wiggins played summer league for Cleveland amidst all the rumors, and was traded for Kevin Love a month after. It happens... But rarely.

 

[B-Roy]

Andrew Wiggins played summer league for Cleveland amidst all the rumors, and was traded for Kevin Love a month after. It happens... But rarely.

Yeah I could see this depending how Miller/Scoot play. Sharpe is worth more than 7 was during the draft.

 

[Samuel]

Jaynes became irrelevant when he claimed CJ was the one to keep, not Dame. And honestly probably much earlier than that.

 

[Samuel]

Andrew Wiggins played summer league for Cleveland amidst all the rumors, and was traded for Kevin Love a month after. It happens... But rarely.

Right. Rare.

 

[blazerfan11]

I don’t understand how they think this is realistically possible.

Because Chicago fans have seen all the horrible decisions their team has made and are hoping some other teams makes a terrible mistake too.

 

[illmatic99]

Yeah I could see this depending how Miller/Scoot play. Sharpe is worth more than 7 was during the draft.

Added benefit of using their 7.4 mil contract to make money work in a trade

 

[wizenheimer]

Jaynes became irrelevant when he claimed CJ was the one to keep, not Dame. And honestly probably much earlier than that.

Jaynes was always an idiot but he became insufferable when the Blazers fired Rick Adelman

 

[Predator]

This is encouraging to me:

https://open.spotify.com/episode/3wOMT925j5Yj9RJt4eqoPH?si=V007zU27SWakvtVZcEyQKA

Woj said there's not a player who is currently available for trade who is worth the #3 pick. And if it's Scoot at 3, the Portland will take him and try to figure it out. The value in having a guy on a rookie scale deal who could be an all star is really high and none of the guys on market at this moment meet that threshold, and the Portland FO apparently feels similar. Also mentioned how engaged Dame is and is probably aligned with this thought process for now.

Interesting how he talks about how he decides when to (or not to) report information. He talks to a variety of sources at different levels first.

Also reiterates he thinks Miller goes 2 and that MOST teams would draft Miller at 2 if they could get there.

Another interesting note: Apparently OKC offered a TON of picks to Cleveland to draft Evan Mobley and they said no.

Apparently not going to be leaking picks anymore.

Was hoping to hear what he thought Portland would do if it was Miller available and not Scoot.

 

[Predator]

I'm assuming, since a rookie scale was mentioned, part of Woj's calculus is the contract status of the 'available' players. Siakam and Brown will be on expiring contracts and when balanced against essentially the 7 year guarantee of a rookie scale-->extension, expirings have negative value. Zion is the opposite in that his contract has high potential to be a boat anchor. Bridges has the best contract, but it's such a small sample size of him being a 1st option it's hard to trust it

so yeah, I think the Blazers should want more for trading the 3rd pick than what we've heard so far. And I'm still mostly convinced other teams will be setting too high a price

there has been a very artificial deadline set on Portland's use of that pick. If traded, it doesn't have be as a pick. The Blazers can make the pick, sign the player, and trade him later. Trade deadlines can generate blockbuster trades sometimes. Theoretically, Miller would be a better fit into the roster; Scoot would be more problematic but that doesn't mean the problems couldn't be resolved or deferred

He does specifically mention that the new CBA is going to have a *significant* impact on trades and trade value.

In particular he mentions that “Durant and Gobert like hauls” won’t happen anymore because your ability to build a team if you have a player making a number that starts with a “4 or 5” is pretty much fucked (my words on that part).

 

[CJ_is_Gone]

I don’t understand how they think this is realistically possible.

Would Charlotte have any interest in Zach?
I could see how they could view him as a nice fit.

 

[wizenheimer]

They could.

This is also rare. Teams get their guy on the podium, they hold up the jersey, they head to Summer League camp and meet the guys...

yeah, I wasn't really thinking about sometime this summer. I was thinking along the lines of the trade deadline or the next draft or the next off-season

Portland would also get the chance to see how good the player actually is and have a much better gauge of his upside

 

[Ripcity4life77]

The Blazers have to say they are comfortable selecting at 3 cause I am guessing teams are low balling the Blazers or at least giving deals that are not worth moving out of that slot. This might be the first smart thing Cronin has done as the GM but only time will tell if the Blazers really are comfortable taking Scoot or whoever at 3 or playing hardball and hoping the offers get better. I guess we all will know the truth soon but the wait is draining as a fan and at this point want something to be done so we have an idea what the plan might be going forward.

 

[Natebishop3]

It might be that we were expecting to have Scoot at three and most of the trades that are being rumored would appear to hinge on Scoot being available.

 

[B-Roy]

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marks-and-givony/id986595124?i=1000617184089

Marks, Lowe and Givony talk in depth about Blazers.

- If Draft happened today, Blazers would pick Scoot or Miller.
- They value that pick super highly - and the offers just aren't there at the moment.
- Dame is smart and knows value of the pick. He's not going to storm into the office the moment they make the pick and demand a trade.
- To the teams turning their nose at Simons/3 for <insert star wing> - Lowe things a lot of this is posturing. That pick has way more value than a pick in another year. Simons is being undervalued.
- Every team would rather have Sharpe than Simons right now. Sharpe is as close to untouchable as possible.

- New Orleans has no interest in trading Zion or Ingram.

 

[blazerkor]

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marks-and-givony/id986595124?i=1000617184089

Marks, Lowe and Givony talk in depth about Blazers.

- If Draft happened today, Blazers would pick Scoot or Miller.
- They value that pick super highly - and the offers just aren't there at the moment.
- Dame is smart and knows value of the pick. He's not going to storm into the office the moment they make the pick and demand a trade.
- To the teams turning their nose at Simons/3 for <insert star wing> - Lowe things a lot of this is posturing. That pick has way more value than a pick in another year. Simons is being undervalued.
- Every team would rather have Sharpe than Simons right now. Sharpe is as close to untouchable as possible.

- New Orleans has no interest in trading Zion or Ingram.

I think this and what Woj is reporting is just a whole lot of smoke. I don't know if everything being reported is just posturing or just the majority of it but for sure most of this is just smoke screens and posturing. I still think we'll make a deal on draft night with the third pick going somewhere else. I think teams will start making better offers as the draft gets closer and then once we're on the clock they'll start bidding against each other. Or maybe I'm wrong and Joe is planning on drafting and keeping either Scoot or Miller.

 

[B-Roy]

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marks-and-givony/id986595124?i=1000617184089

Marks, Lowe and Givony talk in depth about Blazers.

- If Draft happened today, Blazers would pick Scoot or Miller.
- They value that pick super highly - and the offers just aren't there at the moment.
- Dame is smart and knows value of the pick. He's not going to storm into the office the moment they make the pick and demand a trade.
- To the teams turning their nose at Simons/3 for <insert star wing> - Lowe things a lot of this is posturing. That pick has way more value than a pick in another year. Simons is being undervalued.
- Every team would rather have Sharpe than Simons right now. Sharpe is as close to untouchable as possible.

- New Orleans has no interest in trading Zion or Ingram.

Also: Scoot was more impressive than Miller in Charlotte's workouts.

Miller would still be 2 as of today, but Charlotte seriously considering Scoot.

 

[Natebishop3]

Also: Scoot was more impressive than Miller in Charlotte's workouts.

Miller would still be 2 as of today, but Charlotte seriously considering Scoot.

Scoot is a physical specimen. Dude reminds me a lot of Russ. He's just built. He looks like he could really impose his will on people.

 

[Predator]

 

[BigGameDamian]

 

[blazerkor]

I like KAT. By that I mean I like KAT if it's for Ant, Nas and 23 and then maybe some future seconds if they need a sweetener. If Scoot is there we could still add a guy like Bridges for 3, Nurk and Knox but I would want at least pick 21 coming back with Bridges in that situation. Draft GG Jackson if he's there who seems like he could be a real PF/C. If it's Miller that's there at 3 I'd just take him. Then try to move Nurk for a couple of bench pieces maybe you have to send out future second rounders with him to make that work.

 

[Sloth]

Tbf, I do think that Minnesota did not really play to his strengths as much as they should have and would prefer him over Zion...

 

[Ripcity4life77]

You would trade Ant and 23rd for KAT --- please let the stupid stop -- I mean the Wolves have been under the delusion that KAT could carry there team and now you want him to be Robin when he just said he wanted to be Batman. -- I am just done trying to talk sense into the mis-guided fans who are just desperate they will accept anything at this point even if it's the wrong thing.

 

[blazerkor]

You would trade Ant and 23rd for KAT --- please let the stupid stop -- I mean the Wolves have been under the delusion that KAT could carry there team and now you want him to be Robin when he just said he wanted to be Batman. -- I am just done trying to talk sense into the mis-guided fans who are just desperate they will accept anything at this point even if it's the wrong thing.

Yeah what the fuck are we thinking? It would be terrible to get an all nba player to pair with Dame for Ant and the 23rd pick. Come on man... your take is misguided and there's nothing desperate about wanting to get Dame the best player he'll have played with in his career.

 

[Sloth]

You would trade Ant and 23rd for KAT --- please let the stupid stop -- I mean the Wolves have been under the delusion that KAT could carry there team and now you want him to be Robin when he just said he wanted to be Batman. -- I am just done trying to talk sense into the mis-guided fans who are just desperate they will accept anything at this point even if it's the wrong thing.

Oh wise one, teach us. What's your ideal secnario going into the draft?

 

[Whyachi]

Yeah what the fuck are we thinking? It would be terrible to get an all nba player to pair with Dame for Ant and the 23rd pick. Come on man... your take is misguided and there's nothing desperate about wanting to get Dame the best player he'll have played with in his career.

best player that Dame has ever played with is the conundrum. KAT and Zion don't play much, at all. They are head cases that Portland should avoid, when talking about trading this year's top 3 draft choice, and possible future draft assets.

 

[B-Roy]

@Mediocre Man

Jake Fischer hints here that Zach LaVine thought about being moved to the Blazers last season before he signed that contract. It's odd because Fischer just mentioned the Blazers out of nowhere.

Says that he hasn't checked in on whether anyone from Portland would be interested in LaVine now, but implied they would be asking for #3/Sharpe/Simons for Zach (which is just ridiculous). Re-iterates Sharpe is off the table from Portland's side though.

Jake mentioned New Orleans called both Charlotte and Portland. Their preference is a package of picks, but neither Charlotte or Portland are interested in a package of picks.

 

[Natebishop3]

@Mediocre Man

Jake Fischer hints here that Zach LaVine thought about being moved to the Blazers last season before he signed that contract. It's odd because Fischer just mentioned the Blazers out of nowhere.

Says that he hasn't checked in on whether anyone from Portland would be interested in LaVine now, but implied they would be asking for #3/Sharpe/Simons for Zach (which is just ridiculous). Re-iterates Sharpe is off the table from Portland's side though.

Jake mentioned New Orleans called both Charlotte and Portland. Their preference is a package of picks, but neither Charlotte or Portland are interested in a package of picks.

It really feels like people are trying to fleece us because they think we're desperate or they think Joe is stupid. Not sure which. Maybe both.