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Keep an eye on Brooklyn. Even Mike Richman has said he's talked to folks around the league to keep an eye on Brooklyn as a Dame destination, and Mike never talks rumors.

Basically, Brooklyn has the same decision to make as us. Go all in with their assets, or take a big step back and rebuild. Both Portland and Brooklyn are flipping the same coin. Heads/Tails = One team going all in and the other going rebuild.

If we trade the pick, I would look for it to Brooklyn. If we trade Dame, I would also look for it to be to Brooklyn.


stupid fucking tweet. LOL...the Nets don't have to assets to get Dame, even if they include some of those picks. Only a moron would suggest the Blazers would trade Dame for what Brooklyn has after eliminating those picks

gawdamn idiot season
 
I honestly cannot believe that anyone that has been watching this team over the last 7 or 8 years thinks Dame with another small guard could work. It's mind boggling especially since we have Shae. I also can't believe people actually think we're keeping Dame and this pick. Dame has said that he's not interested and has said he is in constant contact with Joe. I am not saying it will be an idea that I have but this pick is going to get traded and this team is going to try and build a winner around Dame or they will decide that they can't and will move Dame. Then you might get to see if Scoot and Shae work.
Dame is 33 next month, Scoot is 19. Yeah they can play together fine. Scoot can probably come off the bench for two years and then Dame will be playing CP3/Lowry/John Stockton minutes.

If they were both 24 like Dame and CJ you might have a point. When there is 14 years difference, they don't really duplicate much, and Dame can space great off the ball.

But yeah defense all over the frontcourt positions would be critical if that team is trying to win (which isn't a given if they draft Scoot)
 
I honestly cannot believe that anyone that has been watching this team over the last 7 or 8 years thinks Dame with another small guard could work. It's mind boggling especially since we have Shae. I also can't believe people actually think we're keeping Dame and this pick. Dame has said that he's not interested and has said he is in constant contact with Joe. I am not saying it will be an idea that I have but this pick is going to get traded and this team is going to try and build a winner around Dame or they will decide that they can't and will move Dame. Then you might get to see if Scoot and Shae work.
Dame said he wanted roster moves for the team to contend at the Olympics three years ago and we've done nothing to win since - actively tanking twice. I don't think Dame's desires are set in stone or ultimatums as you are implying.

Plus even if they are; well fine then deal with that problem when its here. Dame wanting out isn't something the team should start doing suboptimal moves for just to avoid.
 
I thought we couldn't shop future firsts with ours still being tied up with that Chicago deal?

False.

Tiny move has to be done with Chicago to change protections, its not a big hindrance at all. Yes its an inconvenience, but its not holding up a trade for a star.

Even if that can't happen, Blazers can just make the picks conditional as when the Lakers acquired Steve Nash and Dwight Howard.
 
Cracks me up that the age factor applies to Dame so strongly by those who want to trade him. Apparently this is not the case with Curry, LeBron or Durant, who are all older and have had more serious injuries, yet are viewed as essential to their team’s plans for contention.

A bit apples to oranges, yes? Curry, LeBron and Durant....that is nearly a dozen NBA Titles between them? As good as he is, that is a different level than Dame.
 
Siakam/Grant is such an awkward pairing. Bridges/Grant makes WAY more sense.

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it only makes more sense if you don't care about rebounding. Both Grant and Bridges are shitty rebounders. Siakam is much better on the glass

personally I think Siakam/Grant would be a good forward combo, maybe better than Grant/Bridges. And the acquisition cost of Siakam should be quite a bit lower. If it isn't than no thanks
 
A bit apples to oranges, yes? Curry, LeBron and Durant....that is nearly a dozen NBA Titles between them? As good as he is, that is a different level than Dame.

Yeah Dame should be compared to someone like Reggie Miller. It was great those Pacers surrounded him with talent at both the middle and end of his career. But they didn't mortgage a bunch of unprotected picks for it. They actually went the other direction and traded a starting big in the finals for a green young player, which ultimately paid off very well.
 
it only makes more sense if you don't care about rebounding. Both Grant and Bridges are shitty rebounders. Siakam is much better on the glass

personally I think Siakam/Grant would be a good forward combo, maybe better than Grant/Bridges. And the acquisition cost of Siakam should be quite a bit lower. If it isn't than no thanks

Sharpe is a better rebounder than Simons in this scenario. Also Nurk missed a bunch of games last season. The rebounding was fine with Nurk + Hart.

Get some better rebounders on the bench. Winslow barely played. Eubanks, Watford, Little, Thybulle, Reddish et. al are all poor rebounders for their position. Filling out the rest of your roster is less important than making sure your core pieces are right.
 
Yeah Dame should be compared to someone like Reggie Miller. It was great those Pacers surrounded him with talent at both the middle and end of his career. But they didn't mortgage a bunch of unprotected picks for it. They actually went the other direction and traded a starting big in the finals for a green young player, which ultimately paid off very well.

Odd that the comparison for him would be to someone whose game is about as different offensively as one could get. And the Pacers wen to one Finals, lost, and were never heard from again. That is not what I want to trade a #3 Lottery pick for.
 
Siakam/OG doesn’t turn this team into a contender.

It’s going to take years to recover from Olshey.

Adding a potential superstar in Scoot is the only move to make.

So two all-NBA players in Dame and Siakam, plus Grant and Sharpe (and MLE) does not turn us into a contender but Scoot could?
How about if we add
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Portland was at the end of their run and were going a different direction. They told Clyde, so he asked to move on. I would hope the same would happen again with Dame. Just wish we had had that same type of run to look back on.
 

I'd consider trading him, but obviously not for such a shitty return.

If we traded him for just about any useful young asset we might have had some more talent on those 2000s teams and have won one or more titles.
 
Odd that the comparison for him would be to someone whose game is about as different offensively as one could get. And the Pacers wen to one Finals, lost, and were never heard from again. That is not what I want to trade a #3 Lottery pick for.
Pacers were in a lot of deep playoff runs. They went young and took Jermaine over mediocre vets such as Dale Davis. They got young Jackson and Artest and Brad Miller, who gave them chances to contend.

It's an example of going young but with a single old franchise cornerstone vet and still contending. Blazers don't have have to give up on their youth to contend with Dame. In fact, hitting on youth might be the best way to contend with Dame.

It's a much better more realistic blueprint than Lebron Kobe Steph Durant teams. Dame just isn't on those guys level.
 
Well in blazer history we have only had the third pick once in 2006 for Adam Morrison. Somehow we probably made the best trade ever to get B Roy and Aldridge. It may have been our best trading ever that I can remember. I only hope we can do as well this time with the third pick.
 
Well in blazer history we have only had the third pick once in 2006 for Adam Morrison. Somehow we probably made the best trade ever to get B Roy and Aldridge. It may have been our best trading ever that I can remember. I only hope we can do as well this time with the third pick.

I think the Blazers had the 3rd in 2005 where they traded away from CP3 for Martell
 
I'm terrified, literally TERRIFIED by the idea that we could trade Scoot/Miller for Anunoby/Siakam

What terrifies me is that 2/3 years from now Anunoby/Siakam could end up being like rich man Covington/Powell and so nothing that gets you close to a championship and meanwhile Scoot/Miller could end up being All Stars on the rise

We MUST take a decision NOW, rebuilding or go all in, STOP keeping the foot in two shoes

Sharpe, Scoot/Miller + the return from a Dame trade would be amazing to start a new chapter

but imagine if we trade Scoot/Miller and Siakam only gives you the boost to qualify to a conference semifinal, two/three years from now Lillard would be on the verge of retiring, Siakam would be nothing to be thrilled about and another franchise would be happy to see Scoot/Miller on the rise to stardome like CP3/DERON years ago
 
So two all-NBA players in Dame and Siakam, plus Grant and Sharpe (and MLE) does not turn us into a contender but Scoot could?
How about if we add
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Scoot can potentially turn us into a contender in three or four years, when coupled with a more mature Sharpe and other good young players. He's the best point guard prospect in a while... since Kyrie Irving, probably (maybe Simmons if you considered him a PG coming out of college).

Dame and Siakam and Grant... that's not even close to contender status. Sharpe isn't even a plus-starter level player yet, and his career arc doesn't match up well with that core, who are 32, 29. and 29 years old. They are also due about $110m (assuming Grant gets $26m) in the upcoming year, with the salary cap being around $134m, and the tax level being around $162m. Presumably we'd look to extend Siakam, too, to ensure he doesn't walk. In 2026-27, those three guys might be making $133m combined ($58m for Dame, $45m for Siakam, $35m for Grant) at ages 35, 32, and 32.

That is painting ourselves into a corner, salary-wise, with guys that have no upside... and depending on what it takes to get Pascal, we are in some combination of a bad salary cap situation (due to having Nurk and/or Simons), a lack of size, a lack of depth, and/or a lack of quality young guys (where Sharpe is a decade younger than the core, and we don't have any other prospect of consequence).

I can't believe that anyone thinks this is a good way to build a winning basketball team in the NBA, but I couldn't believe that anyone thought our team would be any good the last couple of years, either, so I guess I just don't understand the power of stubborn optimism.
 
A bit apples to oranges, yes? Curry, LeBron and Durant....that is nearly a dozen NBA Titles between them? As good as he is, that is a different level than Dame.

No matter how many times I see this argument I still scratch my head over equating team accomplishments with an individual player’s value. How many times has Dame had a contending roster around him? How big of a difference would it have made to the Warriors’ titles if Dame had been switched for Steph? How many titles has Durant won other than his coattails rides with the Warriors? He’s an undeniably great player, but he’s accomplished zilch with OKC, Brooklyn and now the Suns, yet each of those places he’s had better rosters around him than Dame’s had since LMA abandoned ship. The lack of respect that Dame gets on this, a Blazers forum, is astonishing to me.
 
Scoot can potentially turn us into a contender in three or four years, when coupled with a more mature Sharpe and other good young players. He's the best point guard prospect in a while... since Kyrie Irving, probably (maybe Simmons if you considered him a PG coming out of college).

Dame and Siakam and Grant... that's not even close to contender status. Sharpe isn't even a plus-starter level player yet, and his career arc doesn't match up well with that core, who are 32, 29. and 29 years old. They are also due about $110m (assuming Grant gets $26m) in the upcoming year, with the salary cap being around $134m, and the tax level being around $162m. Presumably we'd look to extend Siakam, too, to ensure he doesn't walk. In 2026-27, those three guys might be making $133m combined ($58m for Dame, $45m for Siakam, $35m for Grant) at ages 35, 32, and 32.

That is painting ourselves into a corner, salary-wise, with guys that have no upside... and depending on what it takes to get Pascal, we are in some combination of a bad salary cap situation (due to having Nurk and/or Simons), a lack of size, a lack of depth, and/or a lack of quality young guys (where Sharpe is a decade younger than the core, and we don't have any other prospect of consequence).

I can't believe that anyone thinks this is a good way to build a winning basketball team in the NBA, but I couldn't believe that anyone thought our team would be any good the last couple of years, either, so I guess I just don't understand the power of stubborn optimism.
thank god there's somebody who sees things as they are...
 
I'm terrified, literally TERRIFIED by the idea that we could trade Scoot/Miller for Anunoby/Siakam

What terrifies me is that 2/3 years from now Anunoby/Siakam could end up being like rich man Covington/Powell and so nothing that gets you close to a championship and meanwhile Scoot/Miller could end up being All Stars on the rise

We MUST take a decision NOW, rebuilding or go all in, STOP keeping the foot in two shoes

Sharpe, Scoot/Miller + the return from a Dame trade would be amazing to start a new chapter

but imagine if we trade Scoot/Miller and Siakam only gives you the boost to qualify to a conference semifinal, two/three years from now Lillard would be on the verge of retiring, Siakam would be nothing to be thrilled about and another franchise would be happy to see Scoot/Miller on the rise to stardome like CP3/DERON years ago

Sounds like the first round and out typical Blazers mediocrity.

It's crazy how many fans want this because of some regret we haven't given Dame better talent. Like we have to throw away Shaes future, just because we failed in the past.
 
I think the Blazers had the 3rd in 2005 where they traded away from CP3 for Martell
Yep... we had Sebastian Telfair and traded away from Chris Paul (who was, to me and many at the time, an amazing PG prospect) and Deron Williams (who actually went a pick ahead of Paul, and obviously had a nice career).

It was a ridiculous trade at the time and trading away from Scoot now would be perhaps even more stupid (depending on what we got for trading the pick).
 
Disagree Martell was a sixth pick 3rd was Deron Williams Utah

Trade Partner: Jazz

Acquired: 6th pick (Martell Webster) and 27th pick (Linas Kleiza), 2006 first round pick (Joel Freeland)

Sent out: 3rd pick (Deron Williams)

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I was right, the Blazers had the 3rd pick in 2005, not 2006. I remembered it as CP3 because he was available at the 3rd pick, not my fault Utah was stupid to select Deron over CP3.
 
Well in blazer history we have only had the third pick once in 2006 for Adam Morrison. Somehow we probably made the best trade ever to get B Roy and Aldridge. It may have been our best trading ever that I can remember. I only hope we can do as well this time with the third pick.

Actually Blazers had 4 that year but traded up for 2 to get Aldridge.

3 was year we traded away from CP3 for Webster.
 
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