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If it were Siakam or better yet Brown I would hope that we would be able to get them extended before the trade was finalized. I don't know if that would make Brown's cap number bigger and harder to match if he extended for a super max.

I believe they changed that rule awhile ago so you can't really do extend and trades.

Sure Blazers can get assurance like was rumored with Grant. But there's nothing holding Siakam/Brown to it, and even if they mean it today there's a risk in a year their feelings change. Not a huge risk when we give up a mediocre pick for Grant, but when it's the #3 pick that's a bigger concern.
 


This is about LAST YEARS draft.
 
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I believe they changed that rule awhile ago so you can't really do extend and trades.

Sure Blazers can get assurance like was rumored with Grant. But there's nothing holding Siakam/Brown to it, and even if they mean it today there's a risk in a year their feelings change. Not a huge risk when we give up a mediocre pick for Grant, but when it's the #3 pick that's a bigger concern.
I think there is a very real possibility that we see the same thing from Joe this time around as we have during his first two trade deadlines and last off season. I think he might not find any trades to his liking but I think this time what the result will be is a big trade in July with Dame on his way elsewhere. That trade might even be agreed to on draft night.

I could definitely see us agreeing to send Dame and Nurk to the Nets for Simmons, Claxton, 3M in salary filler and the rights to picks 21, 22 (that the Nets would draft for us) and maybe future FRPs from the Suns. If #3 ends up being Scoot, I could see us shipping Ant somewhere too. Scoot, Shaedon, Claxton, picks 21, 22, 23 and trying to get Simmons right for a couple of seasons sounds like a pretty solid start to a youth rebuild. As far as Dame is concerned... I think that a rotation of Dame, Bridges, Finney-Smith, Cam Johnson, Nurk, Dinwiddie, O'Neal, Harris and a backup big that they sign with the TPMLE might be the best rotation he's had around him... it's definitely a bunch of really good defenders who can put the ball in the whole wen open and some instant offense off of the bench.

I still want to see Dame stay and I know all of us are fixated on the same few guys that we think could possibly get this team into a more competitive spot with Dame leading it but I also know that none of us are on the phones with front offices around the league, so none of us actually knows who is and isn't available or what is being asked for, for any specific player. I think we'll know a lot more in a month and a couple of days. Just like always a lot of wait and see for us fans.
 
lets hope Joe doesn’t listen to Dame on anything.

from wanting to keep stotts, to signing Blevins, to keeping cj, to backing billups…dame should not be consulted on personnel.
I think Dame was down with trading the seventh pick for OG... I don't think OG has helped his stock in the last season and in this draft especially the third pick is a helluva lot more valuable than the seventh pick was in the last draft and I'm sure today that Dame isn't asking that Shaedon be traded for OG. Just like when Dame was mad at this time last year, he should be consulted but Joe should only use it as consultation not marching orders.
 
Simmons career is pretty much done. He really has shown no desire to be an NBA player. It's money to him. Big NO DOG on anything bringing him to Portland.
 
I went through some tapes of both twins this morning. Very impressive, I hope they do the combine. If they measure out to SF sized (6'6 or taller barefoot, 7' wingspan) I'm truly intrigued. Amen is more of a playmaker, Ausar is supposed to be longer and a better defender. Both are top shelf run jump (40"+ vertical) athletes.

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Combine measurements are already out. Ausar has longer hands. He has a taller standing reach (8’8 vs 8’7.5), but oddly not a longer wingspan (both are 7’0). Both are 6’5.75 barefoot, so a solid 6’7 in shoes. Both weigh in the mid 210lb so they aren’t rail thin like Ant was at their age. I don’t see any official measurement for vertical, but I see reports that Amen’s is 44”—Ausar has an obvious notch below Amen in athleticism, but it will probably end up well over 40”. They are both essentially Spurs Kawhi-size.

I like Ausar a lot too. I really hope Ausar wows Schmitz enough to be convinced he’s the guy. Keying in on Ausar invites a tradedown like an ORL deal to get more assets like possibly a second lotto pick. I’m going to believe it’s a wash defensively until more tape says otherwise. To me, Ausar looks like a really good off-ball defender, but Amen might be better as a point of attack defender. I don’t see why Ausar couldn’t become a point of attack defender though. Ausar’s jumpshot is alot more NBA ready than Amen’s too, and is more of an off ball player. If Ausar could do what Sharpe did early last season, he’ll be guaranteed 10-15mpg.

I don’t know if Ausar could become a guy that will become your PG of the future though. With Amen, you have another guy that can realistically facilitate the offense, Skylar Mays as a safety valve. When Sharpe subs in for Ant, Sharpe will have the majority on the best opposing guard. Then you could sub in Ant for Dame and play Amen at SF. Ant will be masked on defense with Sharpe and Amen on the floor, with Thybulle as a sub in if either on gets in foul trouble, and at the same time, Amen takes less pressure on Ant as the primary ball handler and will grow as a primary decision maker. Amen would thrive growing in a Ben Simmons role where you put four shooters around him, one of them being Sharpe. That way, Dame will be able to operate more PnR offense, and Ant/Amen can play a more of a San Antonio kind of offense.

The future of the NBA looks to be having less of a traditional PG and more guys who can kind of do everything. Amen could be fed 1-2 PnRs a game so he can grow that aspect of his game. Sharpe has shown he can at least be an adequate passer soon. Watford can also push the ball and make decisions with the ball, he’ll be here a few more years. Once Dame’s gone, I don’t think we can ever go ball to being this one player centric again.
 
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Simmons career is pretty much done. He really has shown no desire to be an NBA player. It's money to him. Big NO DOG on anything bringing him to Portland.

I still think he is good (an excellent defender with good handles/passing) he just isn't the star most people thought he would be out of college
He is currently overpaid
 


Dame wants the Blazers to trade #3 for OG?
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Good. Toronto wants to play hardball? Joe needs to play hardball. Let's see whose balls are harder. Joe is the one holding the #3 pick.

There are other teams that will value that pick. It's good that stories like this come out. Let's other teams know we aren't patsies and they need to come with a real offer.
 
We traded CJ to a team he's happy with.

Any Dame trade gotta be to a team that even after the trade is still a contender while also giving us fair value in return, otherwise what's the point of trading him?

Name the teams. Go!

Ayton and Payne don't cut it
Simmons and Claxton don't cut it
Maxey and Harris don't cut it
Lowry and Herro don't cut it
Brown and Smart don't cut it
Murray and MPJ don't cut it
Randle and Quickley don't cut it
 
I think Dame was down with trading the seventh pick for OG... I don't think OG has helped his stock in the last season and in this draft especially the third pick is a helluva lot more valuable than the seventh pick was in the last draft and I'm sure today that Dame isn't asking that Shaedon be traded for OG. Just like when Dame was mad at this time last year, he should be consulted but Joe should only use it as consultation not marching orders.
We would have regretted trading Shae for OG. Dodged that bullet.
 
I think Dame was down with trading the seventh pick for OG... I don't think OG has helped his stock in the last season and in this draft especially the third pick is a helluva lot more valuable than the seventh pick was in the last draft and I'm sure today that Dame isn't asking that Shaedon be traded for OG. Just like when Dame was mad at this time last year, he should be consulted but Joe should only use it as consultation not marching orders.
I feel pretty good about a chance that a rookie really wows Dame. I don’t think it’s Scoot. But if a forward like Miller or one of the Thompson twins, or maybe even Hendricks gets here and shows signs early, he’ll keep sticking it out.

I’ve seen all the social media posts Dame’s posted the last 2-3 years, he’s ended up still with Portland. So I’ll believe it when I see it, but we need to still build for the future but keep in mind to find pieces that will still fit around Dame until he retires or wants to be gone.
 
Simmons career is pretty much done. He really has shown no desire to be an NBA player. It's money to him. Big NO DOG on anything bringing him to Portland.
He's salary filler the Blazers would get great picks for taking on his last two years. If we're trading away Dame the salary filler doesn't matter as a player. Might even be possible he is bought out after a year.
 
We would have regretted trading Shae for OG. Dodged that bullet.

Talks were ongoing until just before we picked, while we were on the clock to make a selection. When Sharpe was still available, we decided to select him instead of giving 7 plus whatever else Toronto wants in addition, for OG.

Dame is mad then. He isn't mad now, based on how highly he talked about Shaedon
 
We traded CJ to a team he's happy with.

Any Dame trade gotta be to a team that even after the trade is still a contender while also giving us fair value in return, otherwise what's the point of trading him?

Name the teams. Go!

Ayton and Payne don't cut it
Simmons and Claxton don't cut it
Maxey and Harris don't cut it
Lowry and Herro don't cut it
Brown and Smart don't cut it
Murray and MPJ don't cut it
Randle and Quickley don't cut it

Brooklyn or NY have the picks to do it. Houston if they sign Harden. Only takes one team.

If your only looking at players and no picks obviously many less or even no teams.
 
This tweet is MISLEADING

The pick is about last year's #7

Too bad for Totonto, Sharpe will be leaps and bounds better than OG when it's all said and done

Yes, thought that was pretty clear “Dame was not thrilled that night … Dame would’ve preferred if they traded the pick for OG”. Seems pretty clear it was about last years pick, since the draft hasn’t happened this year.

But what I thought was interesting was how Dame was skeptical of Sharpe since he wanted OG.

Also, it makes me even more sure that if we keep this years pick Dame is gonna lose his mind.
 
Guess multiple people have made the same mistake; my apologies. I’ll edit the post.
 
Yes, thought that was pretty clear “Dame was not thrilled that night … Dame would’ve preferred if they traded the pick for OG”. Seems pretty clear it was about last years pick, since the draft hasn’t happened this year.

But what I thought was interesting was how Dame was skeptical of Sharpe since he wanted OG.

Also, it makes me even more sure that if we keep this years pick Dame is gonna lose his mind.

The caption is clear, but the thumbnail has big bold letters saying (Trade the 3rd pick?) They know what they're doing
 
I looked at the highlights of Miller on offense & defense. The stats are fantastic. Shooting percentages are very good. I really like the fact he's an 85 % free throw shooter in college, rare. If the workouts and interviews go well, he may very well be the guy. Dame ain't stupid. He wants to play with the best . This kid's skillset bodes well to be a factor right away. The off court situation isn't an issue, unless it becomes an issue after further investigation. It looks good right now, but that could change , and is worrisome. I'm sure if the Blazers become enamored with him, they , if not already done, some serious vetting on this. He doesn't have a compact shooting motion, but it wasn't a problem in college. I kept watching how he holds the ball out in that motion as he's going up. But he get it off in traffic. And it's pure. He doesn't seem that tall, but his long arms and great timing help him block shots.
 
Good. Toronto wants to play hardball? Joe needs to play hardball. Let's see whose balls are harder. Joe is the one holding the #3 pick.

There are other teams that will value that pick. It's good that stories like this come out. Let's other teams know we aren't patsies and they need to come with a real offer.

Stop dealing with Toronto. Masai is not dealing OG/Siakam for anything less than a highway robbery. Those two are never getting traded until Masai is gone. Just like CJ wasn't traded until Olshey was gone.
 

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