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What are you hoping for with this pick?

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Pinwheel1 said:
You either keep Scoot or you keep Ant to pair with Sharpe. Either one backs up Dame for the next 4 years.
Scoot has better trade value so I assume they will trade him. Maybe they trade both in order to match salaries.
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I'd rather trade Ant plus all future picks.

To have a player like Scoot who can put as much pressure on the defense like Ja, would be a massive advantage.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
You either keep Scoot or you keep Ant to pair with Sharpe. Either one backs up Dame for the next 4 years.
Scoot has better trade value so I assume they will trade him. Maybe they trade both in order to match salaries.
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I don’t see any way we keep Dame if we draft Scoot to keep him.

Miller would still make sense with Dame if we can turn Ant/Nurk into another center.
 
andalusian said:
Orlando also has the #6 pick, do you want to do #3 for #6 and Wagner?
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The problem with that is I don’t think the 6th is good enough to flip for a star. The 3rd should be good enough to get an actual star.
 
CJ_is_Gone said:
I don't agree with the Siakam/Grant pairing being awkward. Why do you way that?

I love the idea of Bridges but Grant is such an asbismal rebounder - that I can't have him be the long-term solution at PF.

The best of all options would be a Bridges/Siakam front court.
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Maybe sign and trade Grant to get bridges or Siakam and get the other with the 3 pick?
 
Man the first cog in Dame being traded to Boston is happening right now if Boston loses game 1 and this series. Long shot but if Boston loses I could see them trading Brown for Dame etc.
 
Driew said:
Man the first cog in Dame being traded to Boston is happening right now if Boston loses game 1 and this series. Long shot but if Boston loses I could see them trading Brown for Dame etc.
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this still creates an unnecessary logjam:

-Scoot/Ant/Sharpe/Brown/?

Brown isn't a PF and Shaedon is playing out of position

-Ant/Sharpe/Brown/Miller/?

Miller can't swing to PF.

either scenario is still messy from a team building perspective.
 
If we do trade Dame, the return should either be for a good positional fit with star potential, or a shit load of picks.

Jaylen doesn't really make much sense with Shaedon and Ant still here.

I know his contract is much maligned but if we could get KAT & McDaniels, the fit would be incredible. But I would hate to send Dame to another team in our division.
 
illmatic99 said:
this still creates an unnecessary logjam:

-Scoot/Ant/Sharpe/Brown/?

Brown isn't a PF and Shaedon is playing out of position

-Ant/Sharpe/Brown/Miller/?

Miller can't swing to PF.

either scenario is still messy from a team building perspective.
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Yeah I think either Brown or Sharpe would be the SF and the other would be the SG.

Edit: And would Smart be the SG for the Celtics?
 
illmatic99 said:
this still creates an unnecessary logjam:

-Scoot/Ant/Sharpe/Brown/?

Brown isn't a PF and Shaedon is playing out of position

-Ant/Sharpe/Brown/Miller/?

Miller can't swing to PF.

either scenario is still messy from a team building perspective.
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Miller can play 2-4
 
If the Blazers are lucky enough to draft Scoot Henderson, he's going to make plays that makes fans jaws drop, much like Shaedon Sharpe.
People will be wondering "what the hell were we thinking" when it's recalled how many wanted the pick to be traded. Just like Sharpe.
 
Toronto twitter is hilarious.

OG is a high level role player - yet they are in agreement that he’s worth #3/Sharpe.

Joe talks a big game and I have some trust that he’s not dumb enough to trade Scoot for OG or 30 year old, pending FA Siakam.
 
illmatic99 said:
but then where would you put Ant and either Scoot or Miller?
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Well Scoot would probably come off the bench for his rookie season if we didn't trade Ant this summer. And Ant would probably be traded in the next offseason if Scoot takes off.
 
Phatguysrule said:
Maybe sign and trade Grant to get bridges or Siakam and get the other with the 3 pick?
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Yes.

Brooklyn:
Bridges + #21 + #22 <-> #3 + #11
Nets get 2 high picks & gets out of the tax (sufficient to resign Johnson)


Orlando:
#11 <=> Simons

Portland:
#3 + Simons <=> Bridges + #21 + #22



Use #21 to pay off Chicago debt.

Use Grant after resigning to bring in Siakam in December
 
blazerfan11 said:
If the Blazers are lucky enough to draft Scoot Henderson, he's going to make plays that makes fans jaws drop, much like Shaedon Sharpe.
People will be wondering "what the hell were we thinking" when it's recalled how many wanted the pick to be traded. Just like Sharpe.
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He can’t shoot for shit tho
 
I don't get the vets for Dame trade ideas. Makes no sense. If we get Brown/Bridges/KAT, etc it should be to win with Dame now.

If we trade Dame it should be to get young future potential All-stars and picks, not current stars in their prime that will start declining as our youth eventually peaks.

And that ignores the friendships these guys have with Dame. They won't want to stay in Portland if Dame is gone.
 
Keep the pick and blow up the rest. Lillard, Nurk, Ant gone. If you trade the pick, you probably also trade Sharpe (vets wanted for Lillard). Then when those moves don't work, and they won because we are a mess financially, then we have no championship, no Lillard (old in 2 to 3 years), and no foundation to build with. I just for the life of me can't see a way we win with Lillard. But I have been a fan long enough to know, they will do the wrong thing and try to milk the rest of Lillard's years.
 
WesleyMatthews said:
I don't get the vets for Dame trade ideas. Makes no sense. If we get Brown/Bridges/KAT, etc it should be to win with Dame now.

If we trade Dame it should be to get young future All-stars and picks, not current stars in their prime that will start declining as our youth eventually peaks.
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the problem is... the teams with expendable draft capital probably don't want Dame.

BK -- maybe, but they are more than one Dame away from contending.
NY -- already have Brunson.
MIA -- don't have the picks
OKC/NO -- have the picks, but no real desire to expedite their window.

DAL -- ? maybe? 10+ a bunch of future picks?
 
Predator said:
What the hell? Does college experience matter? Sure. Not that much though. (Look at Shaedon Sharpe).
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Look over there, now over there... and now you're comparing apples to cucumbers. We all can see the individual skills & off the charts athleticism in Shaedon. Those obvious traits are why he was able to skip college entirely to be drafted on potential higher then either of the guys we were comparing, but just as obviously he's still got a ways to go before he knows how to play. Without question of the now 3 guys we are talking about he's by far the best prospect coming out of HS... so?

But playing nearly 180 more NBA games (and im not talking a minute or two) matters a whole lot more than college experience. If college experience was THAT amazing, Zach Edey and Drew Timme would be at the top of draft boards.
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that is some quality stupid. What we were discussing was development of players. Obviously not all prospects are created equal and those with better physical and individual skills have higher ceilings. Drew Eubanks was never going to be Tim Duncan no matter if or where he went to college, or how much coaching or how many minutes he played at whatever level. Good grief man, are you really this challenged? Ant is an elite level run/jump athlete, CJ is not. Because of that he has a much higher ceiling which is why Portland drafted him in hopes he would develop.

College is practically a completely different game. Regarding the bold: In his second year he played in 70 games and averaged 20 minutes a game. So I don’t know what the hell you’re smoking but it must be strong.
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You're flailing badly in this thread so of course you go there. I'm sticking with facts and a HoF coach's comments about the difficulties of young player development in the NBA. You might benefit by checking out the link below.

Prior to last season when Ant was 23, he'd played 4,375 minutes in the league. In college CJ played 3,657 minutes (his Sr year was cut short due to injury). Combined with the 476 minutes he played his rookie year, he'd played 4,133 minutes prior to his 23 year old season in question or 94% of the minutes Ant had played so the minutes part of your development/preparation claim is moot. Of course while at Lehigh, CJ was the focus of his team's attack, everything ran through him. He wasn't standing in the corner hoping the ball might swing his way like Ant was for much of his minutes on Dame's team, he was dealing with double teams and being the tip of the spear in their attack. Very different minutes. To one of Kerr's points, CJ also received a ton more of coaching as they practice a whole lot more in college then they do in the pros. While CJ's late teens and early 20s were spent being coached up getting reps in practice, Ant was clapping on the sidelines and checking into another hotel. No question who was better prepared for their 23rd year

https://omny.fm/shows/steve-kerr/5-16-steve-kerr-joins-tolbert-copes-to-review-the

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