We got the #3 pick. Discuss the possibilities. (1 Viewer)

[blazerkor]

Is this crazy?

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I mean, we know the Nets don't want 3 for Bridges...but maybe they'd want Zion instead, especially if they can offload Simmons.
Pels get Scoot, and get a shot at a different 1/1 reclamation project.
Blazers get the solid starting lineup Dame wants.

Yeah it's a crazy overpay for those two. JV is barely an upgrade and Bridges is not worth anything close to pick three. Also if we're doing a pick 3 for Bridges package I want Claxton and I think we should also get picks 21 and 22... they'd have to pick one of those for us because of that Stepien bastard but still that might not even be enough. I might be OK with...


I'd then try to trade all of those pick in the early 20s and Ant for some really good bench players. But I don't think the Nets are going to trade with us after Dame said that he'd be cool playing for them. I don't think most teams in the league will hold out on us trying to force us to trade Dame but I don't think we're getting shit from Brooklyn or Miami.

 

[Mr. Robot]

So this should make you happy. You've never wanted anything good for the blazers.

yes, the bigger fuck up, the bigger chance nurk gets traded wherever, far away from this hopeless franchise and its toxic fans

 

[BigGameDamian]

 

[Mr. Robot]

If the Blazers take Scoot it pretty much means they are insecure about Lillards future with the Blazers.

its possible that we trade #3 and then when things dont work, dame lillard requests a trade, then we lose both #3 and dame lillard

im not saying thats exactly what would happen, but its a very scary possibility

 

[Phatguysrule]

Miller calls PG the GOAT an hour after Kupchak reveals that MJ will have final say in the Hornets pick.

This could go either way. He could pass up on Miller to make him pay. Or he could draft him so he can kick his ass in practice. Every. Single. Day.

 

[Chris Craig]

This could go either way. He could pass up on Miller to make him pay. Or he could draft him so he can kick his ass in practice. Every. Single. Day.

Too bad he doesn't own the team anymore.

 

[Cugel]

Read on a Pels forum that hyper-religious owner of the team is more inclined to let Zion go because of his off court "interludes".

 

[TheGoldRanger]

Read on a Pels forum that hyper-religious owner of the team is more inclined to let Zion go because of his off court "interludes".

They should trade Zion to Utah.

 

[Shaboid]

Read on a Pels forum that hyper-religious owner of the team is more inclined to let Zion go because of his off court "interludes".

The kinkier the better, I say.. Look how much the bulls won in the 90's with Rodman on the team. You know that guy was a freak.

 

[Phatguysrule]

Too bad he doesn't own the team anymore.

I think I saw that he'll still be a minority owner...

Heck, the way he holds grudges maybe he'll make this a condition of the sale?

 

[KingSpeed]

Because of name not because of games. Thats not a valid argument to what I said lmao. His name got him into the all star games which is halfway through a season.

He's just an actual better playable Greg Oden who you can never rely on just like Greg Oden.

Unless you have 9 or 10 all star apperances all stars mean nothing but you had a good first half.

We'd regret getting Zion UNLESS he magicially changes all his ways. Otherwise, our future is fucked, so i'd rather be smart and not have Zion.

Wasn’t his name. It was his numbers. Zion’s career numbers are astonishing.

 

[KingSpeed]

Fine. What if a player has a drinking problem? What if he is addicted to painkillers? What if he is bi-polar, or suffers from chronic depression? All of those things are personal and non-criminal, yet they factor into decisions made by NBA general managers all the time, as they should.

You cannot choose to not to hire someone because they have a mental illness. It’s against the law.

 

[Cugel]

The kinkier the better, I say.. Look how much the bulls won in the 90's with Rodman on the team. You know that guy was a freak.

I read when Carmen Electra caught him in bed with 2 girls he claimed they fell through the ceiling. That guy is something else.

 

[Phatguysrule]

I read when Carmen Electra caught him in bed with 2 girls he claimed they fell through the ceiling. That guy is something else.

I'm sure it felt like that for Rodman all the time... When Madonna offers to pay you $20 million to knock her up, you know you've got the goods.

 

[Shaboid]

I read when Carmen Electra caught him in bed with 2 girls he claimed they fell through the ceiling. That guy is something else.

And now he's having dinners with North Korean dictators. What a crazy life.

 

[KingSpeed]

Fuck me! If we go into another season starting two guys who should be starting at PG at PG and SG I'm going to be livid. How many times do we have to try this bullshit?

OKC started Chris Paul, Dennis Schroeder, and SGA and got the 5 seed. Talent wins.

 

[BigGameDamian]

 

[TheGoldRanger]

I read when Carmen Electra caught him in bed with 2 girls he claimed they fell through the ceiling. That guy is something else.

I remember reading somewhere that he broke his D running naked from 1 corner of a room and using that extra momentum to thrust into Carmen Electra. Haha dude is the man.

 

[blazerfan11]

OKC started Chris Paul, Dennis Schroeder, and SGA and got the 5 seed. Talent wins.

This team won 65 games, a franchise record:


This team won 56 games:

 

[Driew]

If we do draft Scoot it'll be so nice to have a legit PG off the bench. Not feeling like we need to ride Dame every night for 37 minutes. Plus it'd allow us to give Dame more load management games as he gets older to be more fresh for the playoffs.

 

[Mr. Robot]

If we do draft Scoot it'll be so nice to have a legit PG off the bench. Not feeling like we need to ride Dame every night for 37 minutes. Plus it'd allow us to give Dame more load management games as he gets older to be more fresh for the playoffs.

well, were not a playoff team as of now and im not sure if scoot changes that

dane would still need to carry us (sure, you hope sharpe improves and that scoot is ready from the get go and that grant & nurk are really good, but thats a lot of ifs)

 

[wizenheimer]

so, if I'm following everything correctly, when the Blazers got 3rd in the lottery, their target list was Bridges, Siakam, and Brown. Bridges appears to be off the table and probably was never on it. And the latest news is that the Blazers were reluctant to pay Siakam a max deal and/or absolutely needed a guarantee he'd re-sign in Portland. Reportedly Siakam would not commit; so those talks are dead. The same issue would be present for Brown, only he'd likely want a bigger contract. If Siakam is off the table, it's pretty certain Brown is too

that would tend to point to Zion being the only 'viable' candidate for a trade of #3. And I'd think there are just too many monkey wrenches lying around between Portland and New Orleans. One of those could be that Portland has way too much institutional memory of injury prone big men to risk the 3rd pick on a fatso who have played only 1/3 of possible games in the league. Another could be that the Blazers have enough residual angst from the Jail Blazer days to not want to risk bad behavior by Zion; Portland has been diligent about not adding players with baggage. And a 3rd monley-wrench could be what CJ has told Dame and the Blazers, in private, about Zion

I know some are counting on a trade for Zion. I'm having a hard time seeing it happen

if I were to bet, I'd say Portland drafts Scoot and we don't hear anything about Blazer trades tomorrow unless it involves 23 or 43

Charlotte could upset the apple-cart though

 

[blazerkor]

If we do draft Scoot it'll be so nice to have a legit PG off the bench. Not feeling like we need to ride Dame every night for 37 minutes. Plus it'd allow us to give Dame more load management games as he gets older to be more fresh for the playoffs.

I'm sorry but if we're keeping Dame we have to be trying to maximize what he can give us... we can get Dame a legit backup with the TPMLE. You don't have to use the greatest asset we've had besides Dame since we had pick 1 in 2007 because it would be nice for Dame to have a legit backup. I'm not saying we don't take the BPA at 3 in this draft I'm just saying if it gets that far we still trade his rights because fit matters. The fact that this fan base hasn't learned that over the last 9 seasons is astounding to me.

 

[KingSpeed]

I'm sorry but if we're keeping Dame we have to be trying to maximize what he can give us... we can get Dame a legit backup with the TPMLE. You don't have to use the greatest asset we've had besides Dame since we had pick 1 in 2007 because it would be nice for Dame to have a legit backup. I'm not saying we don't take the BPA at 3 in this draft I'm just saying if it gets that far we still trade his rights because fit matters. The fact that this fan base hasn't learned that over the last 9 seasons is astounding to me.

Should we have drafted Jordan and traded him because we already had Drexler?

 

[Chris Craig]

Should we have drafted Jordan and traded him because we already had Drexler?

We aren't talking about Jordan and Drexler. That's whole nother story.

 

[blazerkor]

so, if I'm following everything correctly, when the Blazers got 3rd in the lottery, their target list was Bridges, Siakam, and Brown. Bridges appears to be off the table and probably was never on it. And the latest news is that the Blazers were reluctant to pay Siakam a max deal and/or absolutely needed a guarantee he'd re-sign in Portland. Reportedly Siakam would not commit; so those talks are dead. The same issue would be present for Brown, only he'd likely want a bigger contract. If Siakam is off the table, it's pretty certain Brown is too

that would tend to point to Zion being the only 'viable' candidate for a trade of #3. And I'd think there are just too many monkey wrenches lying around between Portland and New Orleans. One of those could be that Portland has way too much institutional memory of injury prone big men to risk the 3rd pick on a fatso who have played only 1/3 of possible games in the league. Another could be that the Blazers have enough residual angst from the Jail Blazer days to not want to risk bad behavior by Zion; Portland has been diligent about not adding players with baggage. And a 3rd monley-wrench could be what CJ has told Dame and the Blazers, in private, about Zion

I know some are counting on a trade for Zion. I'm having a hard time seeing it happen

if I were to bet, I'd say Portland drafts Scoot and we don't hear anything about Blazer trades tomorrow unless it involves 23 or 43

Charlotte could upset the apple-cart though

I appreciate your insights and that's not sarcastic but I don't think any of the reasons you gave besides Zion's health hold any water at all. The other thing is, do we really think only the teams who have been rumored to have players we want are viable trade partners?

I don't think Dame is asking out anymore. I think Joe will take the best deal for pick 3 available tomorrow. It's what everything points to. I could have seen drafting Miller but Scoot has so much value around the league and really doesn't have a place on this roster with Dame... especially given all of the things we've heard from Dame.

Or you could be right, we'll see really soon.

 

[glazeduck]

so, if I'm following everything correctly, when the Blazers got 3rd in the lottery, their target list was Bridges, Siakam, and Brown. Bridges appears to be off the table and probably was never on it. And the latest news is that the Blazers were reluctant to pay Siakam a max deal and/or absolutely needed a guarantee he'd re-sign in Portland. Reportedly Siakam would not commit; so those talks are dead. The same issue would be present for Brown, only he'd likely want a bigger contract. If Siakam is off the table, it's pretty certain Brown is too

that would tend to point to Zion being the only 'viable' candidate for a trade of #3. And I'd think there are just too many monkey wrenches lying around between Portland and New Orleans. One of those could be that Portland has way too much institutional memory of injury prone big men to risk the 3rd pick on a fatso who have played only 1/3 of possible games in the league. Another could be that the Blazers have enough residual angst from the Jail Blazer days to not want to risk bad behavior by Zion; Portland has been diligent about not adding players with baggage. And a 3rd monley-wrench could be what CJ has told Dame and the Blazers, in private, about Zion

I know some are counting on a trade for Zion. I'm having a hard time seeing it happen

if I were to bet, I'd say Portland drafts Scoot and we don't hear anything about Blazer trades tomorrow unless it involves 23 or 43

Charlotte could upset the apple-cart though

I think your summary is pretty close, I'm not sure your conclusions are, however...

• For one, I think Bridges is (or will be) more available than advertised. Just like "the Blazers are focused on drafting and keeping Scoot Henderson" is positioning, so too is "we're building around Bridges".
• On Zion: I think your concerns are certainly there for a lot of fans; I don't think they're there (nor should they be) for the front office. How does Dame feel about Zion? Literally our only piece of evidence is that he liked a tweet saying "Get Zion to Portland". It would seem fairly likely that if anything, CJ had good thing to tell Dame about him.

You very well may be right about Zion at the end of the day, but I think we see what we want to see -- you see reasons why we'd pass on Zion. I see him being about as perfect a fit for the predicament that we're in as possible, and signs, for a few days now, seem like that's the direction they're pointing in...

 

[HailBlazers]

so, if I'm following everything correctly, when the Blazers got 3rd in the lottery, their target list was Bridges, Siakam, and Brown. Bridges appears to be off the table and probably was never on it. And the latest news is that the Blazers were reluctant to pay Siakam a max deal and/or absolutely needed a guarantee he'd re-sign in Portland. Reportedly Siakam would not commit; so those talks are dead. The same issue would be present for Brown, only he'd likely want a bigger contract. If Siakam is off the table, it's pretty certain Brown is too

that would tend to point to Zion being the only 'viable' candidate for a trade of #3. And I'd think there are just too many monkey wrenches lying around between Portland and New Orleans. One of those could be that Portland has way too much institutional memory of injury prone big men to risk the 3rd pick on a fatso who have played only 1/3 of possible games in the league. Another could be that the Blazers have enough residual angst from the Jail Blazer days to not want to risk bad behavior by Zion; Portland has been diligent about not adding players with baggage. And a 3rd monley-wrench could be what CJ has told Dame and the Blazers, in private, about Zion

I know some are counting on a trade for Zion. I'm having a hard time seeing it happen

if I were to bet, I'd say Portland drafts Scoot and we don't hear anything about Blazer trades tomorrow unless it involves 23 or 43

Charlotte could upset the apple-cart though

Another hiccup could be Portland feeling like they lost a bit in the last NOLA trade and want the edge in this transaction.

 

[blazerkor]

Should we have drafted Jordan and traded him because we already had Drexler?

No those were two players who you could have built around together. They both had size... Clyde was plenty big to play the three. Both of those guys were wings and both of the guys we're talking about being incompatible are ball dominant 1s.

Have you ever seen two ball dominant lead guards try to co-exist? Yeah, it's all we've seen for the last 9 seasons and it's been two guys who are less than the sum of their parts every season. Why would we continue to do that? Also I'm not saying we should just draft Amen. Amen doesn't have near the value that Scoot does. We should trade Scoot for fair value that fits on our roster and can do the most to help us win now.

 

[blazerkor]

Another hiccup could be Portland feeling like they lost a bit in the last NOLA trade and want the edge in this transaction.

I think Joe feels like that trade was very fair and he should. Hart was good for us and now we have Matisse as a RFA and pick 23 plus likely Jerami on a long term deal. I don't think there are likely any hard feelings. In fact I think because both teams were so fair to each other last time they made a deal, that could bode well for another deal if both teams are interested in one.