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I do agree that BLM should try to separate themselves from the anarchists wanting to create conflict. But I cant ask for that without also asking republicans to separate themselves from the KKK and nazis.
I'll ask for both. I don't want Nazis or racists at Republican events. I don't want "Proud Boys" acting like they're representing me. I don't want anyone advocating for oppression or violence associating themselves with me.

I'm also not at any Republican events, so there really isn't anything for me to exclude them from.
 
I'll ask for both. I don't want Nazis or racists at Republican events. I don't want "Proud Boys" acting like they're representing me. I don't want anyone advocating for oppression or violence associating themselves with me.

I'm also not at any Republican events, so there really isn't anything for me to exclude them from.

I think we should all be asking for both.
 
What? so Im not entitled to my opinion? I attended a BLM protest in my community and I support their cause. And folks like me need to be met with violence?

I wrote that incorrectly. What I was saying is people that are on the side of the fascist want to meet us with violence for having different opinions. I also didn't read your post correctly and saw that you did go out to a protest in your local area. Thank you for that. What I can say very truthfully is that it is very safe to come downtown to the Justice Center in the Parks that's around it. Get there at 9. Get some of the free food and all of the free things that are available like water and Gatorade and masks. It's unprecedented in this city that the homeless downtown have been fed everyday for 59 days. That's never happened in our city but we've done it. Come downtown and leave at about 11 to 12. You will not see peace as we are loud. What you will see is what democracy looks like. People that don't look anything like each other or come from different backgrounds coming together for a common cause. And that cause is black lives. I will meet you there.
 
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Listen to how you sound... You must recognize that it's an uninformed one. Until you do will you will just be on the side of the racists and fascists.
Not on either side, you are out in left field with that bold assumption. Listen to how you sound when you declare I need to be met with violence and i'm a racist.
 
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I have heard that the protests have shifted to more anti-Trump since all the federal police shit started, is that not the case?
 
Hey @ABM, what’s going on in Tennessee??? Sounds like Portland.....only it’s a bunch of bored teenagers (who should be wearing masks and social distancing at the very least) who are throwing tantrums because some stupid f**king video games aren’t working. Is Trump going to call out the federal goon squad to put this rebellion down??? Probably, because the majority of the kids in the video appear to be Black. Gotta wonder if the arcade owners would have refunded money to white kids.......I don’t condone their actions and I believe they should be held accountable and I’m waiting to see how this is handled. But it’s kinda fun to sit here in Oregon and take pot shots at another state 2600 miles away, without having all the facts. See how that works???

https://apple.news/AktN0nd3kS3CxInMHjl7O_Q
 
Hey @ABM, what’s going on in Tennessee??? Sounds like Portland.....only it’s a bunch of bored teenagers (who should be wearing masks and social distancing at the very least) who are throwing tantrums because some stupid f**king video games aren’t working. Is Trump going to call out the federal goon squad to put this rebellion down??? Probably, because the majority of the kids in the video appear to be Black. Gotta wonder if the arcade owners would have refunded money to white kids.......I don’t condone their actions and I believe they should be held accountable and I’m waiting to see how this is handled. But it’s kinda fun to sit here in Oregon and take pot shots at another state 2600 miles away, without having all the facts. See how that works???

https://apple.news/AktN0nd3kS3CxInMHjl7O_Q

I'll be in Oregon on Thursday. I can't wait!
 
I'll be in Oregon on Thursday. I can't wait!

This state aint big enough for the both of us, podner.

Well, technically I guess it is. Unless you've gained a tremendous amount of weight lately.

barfo
 
This state aint big enough for the both of us, podner.

Well, technically I guess it is. Unless you've gained a tremendous amount of weight lately.

barfo

You're out to sea...chasing Mar Azul.
 


Literally the WORST thing that was hurled at the federal building was a tiny ass firework.

You know what happened? It bounced off the federal building and landed back towards the fence.

The rest of the time it was people chanting "Black Lives Matter" and the names of the people who were unjustly killed by police brutality.

In other words, fuck trump. Fuck the secret police. They are escalating a situation that is people exercising their first amendment rights.

But you know who they DIDNT tear gas and flash bang? The white supremacists in the Michigan offices. Who were IN THE FACES OF COPS SCREAMING. With guns! Not behind a fence!

So dont give me that shit.

(This is not at you directly, just the post)
 
We know that not all people are physically able to attend. I know you Lanny. I know why you are not able to come down, and I know that you would if you could. What I mean is that folks who can't come down and don't speak to folks who are down there, cuz I've been down there 49 days, cannot speak intelligently about what's happening down there. If you watching the news then you're speaking with an uninformed opinion. Folks like ABM who even refused to even look at what we want and will continue to paint us a negative light, are really the people I'm telling to shut the fuck up.
I'm with you in spirit and at the ballot box.
I regret not protesting in the 60s and would like to express my opinion while supporting the current protestors if I could make it. I believe in what they're doing and I believe in Black Lives Matter which I call Black Lives also Matter. Attending such a protest is on my bucket list. If they can just get my dizzyness corrected I'll be there. I also need to get a lift installed that will enable my wife to roll the wheel chair on and off the car without having to lift the damn thing.
 
It's coming.

Just before the election

It's really sad that the dumbass in office is already laying out the excuses and conspiracy theories 99 days before the election.

Literally the worst person to be president during this time. That fly I saw while laying by the river today would do a better job than this dumbfuck.
 
Trump sends 100 more troops into Portland and warns 'anarchists and agitators' will face 10 years in prison if they damage the courthouse - as the DOJ shares photos of gasoline, bleach and Molotov cocktails confiscated during the chaos
  • The US Marshals Service is deploying 100 deputy marshals to fortify security outside the federal courthouse in downtown Portland
  • The move came as confrontations between federal troops and anti-racism protesters intensified in the city over the weekend
  • President Trump sent a warning to protesters in a tweet on Monday evening
  • 'Anarchists, Agitators or Protestors who vandalize our Federal Courthouse in Portland will be prosecuted ... MINIMUM TEN YEARS IN PRISON,' he wrote
  • The Department of Homeland Security is also considering sending 50 additional Customs and Border Protection personnel to Portland
  • Local activist groups filed a lawsuit against the DHS on Monday, accusing federal officers of using excessive force and overstepping their authority
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ederal-officers-Portland-protests-report.html
 
Trump sends 100 more troops into Portland and warns 'anarchists and agitators' will face 10 years in prison if they damage the courthouse - as the DOJ shares photos of gasoline, bleach and Molotov cocktails confiscated during the chaos
  • The US Marshals Service is deploying 100 deputy marshals to fortify security outside the federal courthouse in downtown Portland
  • The move came as confrontations between federal troops and anti-racism protesters intensified in the city over the weekend
  • President Trump sent a warning to protesters in a tweet on Monday evening
  • 'Anarchists, Agitators or Protestors who vandalize our Federal Courthouse in Portland will be prosecuted ... MINIMUM TEN YEARS IN PRISON,' he wrote
  • The Department of Homeland Security is also considering sending 50 additional Customs and Border Protection personnel to Portland
  • Local activist groups filed a lawsuit against the DHS on Monday, accusing federal officers of using excessive force and overstepping their authority
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ederal-officers-Portland-protests-report.html

Curious. I keep hearing, reading about the molotov cocktails being found, but I have yet to see one video(maybe there is one?) of an actual cocktail being used against the courthouse or the agents?

On the other hand maybe those using them are smart enough to not get caught on film maybe? I know people have tried to set fire to buildings, but was it by molotov cocktails?
 
Trump sends 100 more troops into Portland and warns 'anarchists and agitators' will face 10 years in prison if they damage the courthouse - as the DOJ shares photos of gasoline, bleach and Molotov cocktails confiscated during the chaos
  • The US Marshals Service is deploying 100 deputy marshals to fortify security outside the federal courthouse in downtown Portland
  • The move came as confrontations between federal troops and anti-racism protesters intensified in the city over the weekend
  • President Trump sent a warning to protesters in a tweet on Monday evening
  • 'Anarchists, Agitators or Protestors who vandalize our Federal Courthouse in Portland will be prosecuted ... MINIMUM TEN YEARS IN PRISON,' he wrote
  • The Department of Homeland Security is also considering sending 50 additional Customs and Border Protection personnel to Portland
  • Local activist groups filed a lawsuit against the DHS on Monday, accusing federal officers of using excessive force and overstepping their authority
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ederal-officers-Portland-protests-report.html
This will only escalate the issue!
 
Curious. I keep hearing, reading about the molotov cocktails being found, but I have yet to see one video(maybe there is one?) of an actual cocktail being used against the courthouse or the agents?

On the other hand maybe those using them are smart enough to not get caught on film maybe? I know people have tried to set fire to buildings, but was it by molotov cocktails?

Bro theres cameras and press everywhere. Camera phones, professional cameras. All of it is being filmed in one way or another.

I will say one curious thing though - I did not see anyone from any news station there. No kgw, no kptv, CNN, fox.... None of them. Which leads more creedance to my eye test being the factual basis and the news pretty much being 3rd accounts.

The feds are escalating this. Anyone who has been down there will know that for an unequivocal fact.

And to answer your question - everyone would know if a molotov was thrown...
 
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Oregon’s top federal prosecutor urges peaceful protesters to leave downtown before ‘nightly violence’

By Maxine Bernstein | The Oregonian/OregonLive

Oregon’s U.S. Attorney Billy J. Williams on Monday said he remains alarmed by violence outside the federal courthouse in downtown Portland and urged peaceful demonstrators to leave the area before other protesters start to throw fireworks and other objects at officers.

“This nightly violence cannot continue,‘' he said. “It is absolutely destroying the soul of our city.”

He said federal officers will stay for as long as people continue to damage the Mark O. Hatfield United States Courthouse.

“We must defend this building and the institution of justice it represents,” he said.

“This building is the solution, not the problem. It absolutely represents everything essential to our system of justice. … We’re not leaving the building unprotected to let it be destroyed by people intent on doing so.”

Williams’ remarks in a press call came as Mayor Ted Wheeler and Commissioner Jo Ann Hardesty called for an immediate face-to-face meeting in Portland with acting Homeland Security Secretary Chad F. Wolf to discuss “a cease-fire and removal of heightened federal forces from Portland.”

Wheeler also joined Monday with mayors in five other cities in sending a letter to congressional leaders objecting to the continued or threatened “deployment of federal troops or riot-gear clad forces on the streets of our cities, without consultation with local officials and against our explicit request.” The mayors called on Congress to pass laws “to make it clear those these actions are unlawful and repugnant.”

While Williams said he supports peaceful protests, he once again urged community members not to condone the actions of a core of protesters who set fires, throw fireworks, bottles and other objects at officers and cut into a fence outside the courthouse. His office made the same plea in a weekend media briefing.

“We are in the midst of historic civil unrest due to generations of racial injustice and the tragic murder of George Floyd,‘' he said. “Nightly violence directed at the federal courthouse and other federal facilities does nothing but hijack peaceful protesters’ original message. It is criminal, and it has to stop.”

On the call, Williams, Kris Cline, principal deputy director of the Federal Protective Service, and Pete Cajigal, chief of the U.S. Marshals Service in Oregon, declined to address lawsuits challenging the force that federal officers have used -- including tear gas and rubber bullets -- to move crowds away from the courthouse.

But later Monday, Williams responded to The Oregonian/OregonLive about the reports of demonstrators injured by federal officers, calling it “an unintended consequence.”

“No one wants to see anyone injured, and I realize there are concerns being expressed about people who are not part of the violent individuals but are otherwise down in the area taking part in lawful protest activities. … I understand the concerns being expressed. It’s certainly an unintended consequence of anyone being subjected to the tear gas and anything else. We want things to de-escalate. That’s the purpose of the fence - to de-escalate and protect the building. And I also understand that when officers are having to come out of the building for the limited purposes they’re coming out for to protect the building, steps have been taken to protect them.”

As of Monday morning, according to Williams, officers have made 82 arrests on federal allegations. Of those, 22 people arrested at or near the courthouse this weekend. The allegations range from assault on a federal officer, operating a drone in restricted airspace and stalking and harassing federal officers. A 44-year-old Canadian man is accused of using his Twitter account to share personal information about federal officers on social media.

Williams and the two federal agency supervisors declined to say if more federal officers have arrived in Portland beyond 114 initially sent as part of what the Homeland Security Department dubbed “Operation Diligent Valor,” including officers from Federal Protective Service, U.S. Marshals Service and the U.S. Customs and Border Protection.

According to an internal memo cited by The Washington Post, U.S. Marshals Service Deputy Director Derrick Driscoll last week thanked his officers and wrote that he was asking for the help of 100 deputy marshals needed in Portland. The agency “plans to relieve deputy marshals every three weeks” to help guard the federal courthouse, Driscoll wrote.

On Monday, Drew Wade, a U.S. Marshals Service spokesman, told The Oregonian/OregonLive the agency didn’t send more deputies to Portland last week.

It took steps “to identify up to 100 personnel to send to the District of Oregon in case they were needed to relieve or supplement deputies permanently stationed in the district,” Wade said. “They may also be used to rotate with personnel already sent there to support district operations during the civil unrest mission to insure the function and safety of judicial proceedings.”

While lawsuits describe injuries sustained by more than a dozen medics, journalists and other demonstrators shot by federal officers with impact munitions over the last several weeks, Williams and other federal officials have said their officers have been injured by burns, concussions, puncture wounds and broken bones from Molotov cocktails, fireworks, cans and other objects thrown.

Around 1:10 a.m. Monday, federal officers used tear gas and impact munitions to clear out people after some had tried to cut through the fence outside the courthouse, set a portion of the fence on fire and threw fireworks and shined lasers at officers, Cline said. Federal Protective Service officers also “swept the nearby park for weapons” used against federal officers and found “chemical spray, gas cans,‘' he said.
 
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