Event With the 16th pick, Blazers have selected Hansen Yang (4 Viewers)

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SharpeScooterShooter said:
But someone said no one, so its a fact because some people know everything….
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People just need to understand that the vast, vast majority of these picks after the top 7ish are just a crap shoot. Most of them are going to be out of the league after their rookie contract. Or maybe they'll get an additional small contract for being young and still having some potential. But most will never get a contract based on actual production.

It literally doesn't matter who you pick this late. You're almost certainly going to fail. It's simply not worth getting upset or excited about unless you're just bored.

They made the pick for the guy they felt best about and added another chance to swing again. That's the most important thing.

Most likely won't get anything good from either pick. But taking a lot of swings is more important than any individual pick outside the top of the draft.
 
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I don’t think anyone knew who the kid was or few people did. I watched several videos and was pleasantly surprised. I’ve said it before I think he moves better than expected, to be honest looks smoother than Clingan to me, while Clingan is more polished I honestly could see Yang being the better player. 7 footers are hard to judge because they are so long an awkward when they move but seeing some of the offensive skills Yang showed on videos was impressive. Obviously against lesser competition but the moves are still moves that you don’t see a lot of 7 footers make. He also dunks everything he can which is always a plus.
 
GoZers said:
What’s funny is if someone doesn’t like the Yang pick because either it was too early or not needed or don’t think he’s good enough, whatever, they are bitching and negative. But there’s plenty of “good riddance Anfernee” “fuck Jerami I want him gone” “I hope Chauncey is fired” or “Clingan is a stiff” going around and that seems to be ok. Noted.
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If everyone agreed, forums would be boring.
 
SharpeScooterShooter said:
Because one of them showed us his game over several years and its time to move on. The other hasn’t stepped on the court but is being called a mistake.

if you cant see the difference there…..
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I also see being negative/critical/upset vs negative/critical/upset.
 
blazerkor said:
So we drafted a guy about 13 to 20 picks ahead of where the consensus had him. I really like Yang and I'm not mad about the pick. That being said the odds are that one out of the field of the guys mocked in front of Yang having a better career than him has to be the case.

Joe called it an overdraft. Sure, Yang could be better than everybody who went behind him but I don't think it's more likely than one of the guys drafted after him being better than him.
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I'm not being pro or con the pick right now. I said elsewhere that not having knowledge about what teams 17-24 were going to probably do impacts this decision.

To me, though, what only a few people are mentioning, is this wasn't a pick based on thinking Yang was going to be better than anyone picked after him. This was a pick made on the premise that Yang has the most upside of anyone on the board (and probably most of the players picked ahead of him). This pick had nothing to do with being good. It had everything to do with being great.

They don't think there are obvious holes in this lineup that they have to fill and have no better ways to fill it. They think they need to find a superstar, and they don't care if they take a big swing and a miss on the chance they make contact and knock it out of the park. But, as some said heading into the draft, even if we'd have picked as high as sixth, there wasn't a player that was a good bet to come in and be better than what we already had. They drafted the guy that had the best chance to be a star, not the guy who would be part of the rotation.
 
Strenuus said:
No one liked the pick until the media told them to.

The pick isnt good.
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yeah, but wasn't it the media who projected him in the 2nd round in the first place? All these mocks are basically guys hired by the various websites like ESPN , Yahoo etc. I don't consider any of them experts

Again they are not flying to China to check this guy out in detail
 
1 Eye Jack said:
I don’t think anyone knew who the kid was or few people did. I watched several videos and was pleasantly surprised. I’ve said it before I think he moves better than expected, to be honest looks smoother than Clingan to me, while Clingan is more polished I honestly could see Yang being the better player. 7 footers are hard to judge because they are so long an awkward when they move but seeing some of the offensive skills Yang showed on videos was impressive. Obviously against lesser competition but the moves are still moves that you don’t see a lot of 7 footers make. He also dunks everything he can which is always a plus.
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My feeling too. He definitely has the skillset, as to whether or not it translates to the physical size differences in the NBA is a different story. But the footage we've seen of him at SL last year, he did not look like a deer in headlights, and his touch in the paint is anti-Nurk.

He wont be able to take advantage of the competition as easily (due to his height over the opponents), but at least he has the form and ability to work on it and doesn't need to spend time learning a whole new skill on top of adapting to the US/NBA.

The best thing is, while he's not necessarily going to come off the bench this season and be a solid role player (at least, it's probably unlikely he will do that), it's not like he's an Ibou Badji or John Butler project level either. Both of those guys were only in the NBA because they were stupid tall, and didn't possess T-Rex arms.

I mean, ffs, if we're to believe the weights on basketball reference, Butler weighed 75 pounds *lighter* than Yang does.

And they were the same height.
 
Watching Hansen's second combine game now.

I thought he did a good job on the perimeter and denied guards on multiple occasions.

Good rebounder. Thought he could have been a bit better.

Good rim protection. Multiple blocks.

Good finisher.

He set very effective screens.

Super toolsy on the offensive end but the combine is a lot like summer league. Guard dominated.

I think Hansen is a better than average athlete.

He was slow to get back up court on transitions.

Looked significantly quicker than Clingan.

Very nifty passes.

Just some thoughts watching a full game and not just highlights.
 
comparing draft combine meaurements:

hand length: Clingan 10.0"....Yang 10.0"
hand length: Clingan 10.25"....Yang 11.25"
Height w/o shoes: Clingan 7' 1.75'' ....Yang 7' 1.00"
standing reach: Clingan 9' 7.0"....Yang 9. 3.0"
weight: Clingan 282....Yang 253
wingspan: Clingan 7' 6.75"....Yang 7' 2.75"

lane agility drill: Clingan 12.06....Yang 11.79
shuttle run: Clingan 3.38....Yang 7' 3.01
3/4 sprint: Clingan 3.46....Yang 3.38
no-step vertical: Clingan 25.5"....Yang 26.0"
maximum vertical: Clingan 29.0" ...Yang 30.0"

Clingan is quite a bit heavier and a little longer; Yang is a little quicker and slightly more mobile. But still, even with the advantages in the drills, Yang was right towards the bottom in his times. Yang had about the same mobility as Zach Edey

what we do know is that Clingan has shown he can be rather dominant in the paint on an NBA floor playing against NBA competition. We don't know if that's true for Yang yet. Yang may be better on offense; Clingan better on defense. Both are drop-coverage C's
 
wizenheimer said:
comparing draft combine meaurements:

hand length: Clingan 10.0"....Yang 10.0"
hand length: Clingan 10.25"....Yang 11.25"
Height w/o shoes: Clingan 7' 1.75'' ....Yang 7' 1.00"
standing reach: Clingan 9' 7.0"....Yang 9. 3.0"
weight: Clingan 282....Yang 253
wingspan: Clingan 7' 6.75"....Yang 7' 2.75"

lane agility drill: Clingan 12.06....Yang 11.79
shuttle run: Clingan 3.38....Yang 7' 3.01
3/4 sprint: Clingan 3.46....Yang 3.38
no-step vertical: Clingan 25.5"....Yang 26.0"
maximum vertical: Clingan 29.0" ...Yang 30.0"

Clingan is quite a bit heavier and a little longer; Yang is a little quicker and slightly more mobile. But still, even with the advantages in the drills, Yang was right towards the bottom in his times. Yang had about the same mobility as Zach Edey

what we do know is that Clingan has shown he can be rather dominant in the paint on an NBA floor playing against NBA competition. We don't know if that's true for Yang yet. Yang may be better on offense; Clingan better on defense. Both are drop-coverage C's
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I wonder what Joker's times were.
 
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