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yuyuza1 said:
Were you under a rock the past 24 hrs?

Harris got moved.
Barnes got moved.
Porter got moved.

Three guys who are legit starters who could have helped us.
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We couldn’t match any of those offers. Barnes maybe if we tossed in two firsts, but I’d you notice expiring were passed in all three deals and we don’t have any besides Aminu.
 
TBpup said:
Jimmy Butler
Paul George
Antony Davis (will happen at some point)
Porzingis
Harden
......these are some of the best players in the NBA. Maybe it would be more accurate to say...

Bluckbuster deals at the deadline hardly ever happen.....for the Blazers.
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Butler/George/Harden were not deadline moves.
 
Schilly said:
Neil Olshey = Wade Boggs (didnt hit many homeruns but managed to get on base a lot)

Bob Whitsitt = Sammy Sosa (hit home runs but had a bad overall average and ruined his reputation by not caring about chemistry)
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What?! Sammy Sosa loved him some chemistry!
 
theprunetang said:
You keep bringing up the smallest most mundane trades, and purposely not mentioning the more impactful ones. It's silly.
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So help out my early morning, haven't had coffee yet memory. What trades has Neil made that made us anything close to a contender? That would be of impact to me.
 
yuyuza1 said:
Were you under a rock the past 24 hrs?

Harris got moved.
Barnes got moved.
Porter got moved.

Three guys who are legit starters who could have helped us.
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You would want Barnes and his contract here? I wouldn't touch that.
 
B-Roy said:
We couldn’t match any of those offers. Barnes maybe if we tossed in two firsts, but I’d you notice expiring were passed in all three deals and we don’t have any besides Aminu.
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I know why we weren't involved (to be honest, that too is Neil's fault). But i'm responding to the idea that big moves don't happen at the deadline. They do.
 
dviss1 said:
Here's what you don't seem to get. Not many of us want to rebuild. So... No...
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No one wants to "rebuild", I'm not saying I want Davis to leave. I'm saying I want to get him and then try to convince him to stay.
 
TBpup said:
So help out my early morning, haven't had coffee yet memory. What trades has Neil made that made us anything close to a contender? That would be of impact to me.
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I didn't say we are a contender. But he has made trades much more meaningful than what BRoy keeps aching on and on about.
 
B-Roy said:
We couldn’t match any of those offers. Barnes maybe if we tossed in two firsts, but I’d you notice expiring were passed in all three deals and we don’t have any besides Aminu.
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We should be more active in these kinds of deals next season. Then again probably most of our expirings will be extended at the end of next season by us so we won't trade them.
 
theprunetang said:
You keep bringing up the smallest most mundane trades, and purposely not mentioning the more impactful ones. It's silly.
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I’m being facetecious.

Neil makes trades, just not difference making trades. If we’re talking starter level players there have only been two. The one for Nurkic and the one for Plumlee since he got us Nurkic. I guess the Harkless trade counts in principle but Harkless isn’t really a starter quality player.
 
theprunetang said:
I didn't say we are a contender. But he has made trades much more meaningful than what BRoy keeps aching on and on about.
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I didn't say anywhere that you said we were a contender. But when talking about an impact trade, doesn't the trade have to make an actual 'impact'?
 
TBpup said:
So help out my early morning, haven't had coffee yet memory. What trades has Neil made that made us anything close to a contender? That would be of impact to me.
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So help out my early morning, haven't had coffee yet memory. What trades has SA made that made them anything close to a contender? That would be of impact to me.
So help out my early morning, haven't had coffee yet memory. What trades has Sac made that made them anything close to a contender? That would be of impact to me.
So help out my early morning, haven't had coffee yet memory. What trades has NY made that made them anything close to a contender? That would be of impact to me.
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SA has won nothing post-Duncan.
 
Scalma said:
What are the more impactful ones
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Robin Lopez, Afflalo, Plumlee, Nurk, not to mention maneuvering around the draft to find ways to get players he wants via TRADE.

People keep jazzing their pants about Jake Layman. You do realize that he was drafted by Orlando and traded to Portland? And that goes for half of his draft selections.
 
theprunetang said:
Robin Lopez, Afflalo, Plumlee, Nurk, not to mention maneuvering around the draft to find ways up get players he wants via TRADE.

People keep jazzing their pants about Jake Layman. Goku do realize that he was drafted by Orlando and traded to Portland. And that goes for half of his draft selections.
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Chill. Haters gonna hate.
 
theprunetang said:
Robin Lopez, Afflalo, Plumlee, Nurk, not to mention maneuvering around the draft to find ways to get players he wants via TRADE.

People keep jazzing their pants about Jake Layman. You do realize that he was drafted by Orlando and traded to Portland? And that goes for half of his draft selections.
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We have a different interpretation of 'impact'. Perhaps Nurk will grow into that category at some point.
 
TBpup said:
I didn't say anywhere that you said we were a contender. But when talking about an impact trade, doesn't the trade have to make an actual 'impact'?
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One could arguably say that bringing in Lopez, his minor tinkering, and the eventual trade for Afflalo were designed to create a contender. Before the Wes injury, I believe that team was a contender. Impact trades need to happen at the right time. Timing is key.
 
Wizard Mentor said:
So help out my early morning, haven't had coffee yet memory. What trades has SA made that made them anything close to a contender? That would be of impact to me.
So help out my early morning, haven't had coffee yet memory. What trades has Sac made that made them anything close to a contender? That would be of impact to me.
So help out my early morning, haven't had coffee yet memory. What trades has NY made that made them anything close to a contender? That would be of impact to me.
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SA has won nothing post-Duncan.
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They won 61 games and went to the conference finals the very season after he retired. What have we done?
 
theprunetang said:
One could arguably say that bringing in Lopez, his minor tinkering, and the eventual trade for Afflalo were designed to create a contender. Before the Wes injury, I believe that team was a contender. Impact trades need to happen at the right time. Timing is key.
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On that we can certainly agree. Sadly, we just never got to see if that would come to fruition.
 
e_blazer said:
The sad part is the unrealistic expectations of fans for blockbuster deals at the deadline when they hardly ever happen.
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And yet other teams seem to find ways to acquire good players without "blockbusters." The Blazers are desperate for help at the forward position and Hood isn't even close to being the best forward traded this year.
 
Wizard Mentor said:
By the definition of some here, that's not an impact.
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And if the Blazers went to the Conference Finals, it would have been impactful. When is the last time the Blazers won more than 1 game in the 2nd round? Big difference.
 
theprunetang said:
Robin Lopez, Afflalo, Plumlee, Nurk, not to mention maneuvering around the draft to find ways to get players he wants via TRADE.

People keep jazzing their pants about Jake Layman. You do realize that he was drafted by Orlando and traded to Portland? And that goes for half of his draft selections.
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So four impactful trades in seven years? Damn Neil, slow down.
 
yuyuza1 said:
No one has said that. I will bet you every single person here complaining about Neil will stop the moment our team gets to the WCF while winning 60 games.
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Voice of reason right there. :twothumbs:
 
TBpup said:
On that we can certainly agree. Sadly, we just never got to see if that would come to fruition.
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Real contention is soooo tricky. It is intelligent moves, smart drafting, managing egos, managing the salary cap, and a shit ton of LUCK. Gotta have picks reach potential, can't get burned too badly on a trade, can't have a franchise player leave in free agency, and can't have injury problems with your key players. And all of this has to happen during a certain window that fits with age, the current makeup of the conference and league in general, officiating "points of interest" for the season, and have to have contributions from developing young talent BEFORE their big pay day.
 
yuyuza1 said:
Were you under a rock the past 24 hrs?

Harris got moved.
Barnes got moved.
Porter got moved.

Three guys who are legit starters who could have helped us.
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Guess it depends on your definition of blockbuster. Barnes and Porter went to lottery teams. Harris will help the Sixers. The motivation for all of those deals was for the usual purposes of deadline trades: getting under the LT or salary cap or tanking for a rebuild.

When I think blockbuster, I think trades where both teams are moving major assets to try to improve. My understanding around here is that a lot of folks want to see CJ traded for a major player. Those kinds of trades usually happen in December or over the summer. Hardly ever at the deadline because they’re so hard to pull off without disrupting team chemistry.
 
Still 4.5 hours left. A lot can happen in the last few hours.

I feel like there was a lot of activity last night, which is not the norm for trade deadlines. We shall see.
 
theprunetang said:
Real contention is soooo tricky. It is intelligent moves, smart drafting, managing egos, managing the salary cap, and a shit ton of LUCK. Gotta have picks reach potential, can't get burned too badly on a trade, can't have a franchise player leave in free agency, and can't have injury problems with your key players. And all of this has to happen during a certain window that fits with age, the current makeup of the conference and league in general, officiating "points of interest" for the season, and have to have contributions from developing young talent BEFORE their big pay day.
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Agreed. Had Wes not ruptured his achilles, I still maintain that the 2015 squad would have been a contender. All the excellent management and development was derailed by bad luck.
 
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