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yuyuza1 said:
From the Lowe Post today with Arnovitz: Some takeaways that might be relevant for us.

- Otto Porter is not nearly as available as has been in the media.
- Clippers will lose their lotto pick (to BOS) if they make the playoffs this year. Tobias Harris will be a hot commodity in July this summer for a bunch of teams, so why shouldn't they try to get a haul for Harris at the deadline now? They should be sellers and get back in the draft. (I'd sniff around with Harris if I were Olshey, especially since we can get his bird rights). Clips have shut down all talks so far about Harris so far. Utah has been a suitor for him.
- The Rodney Hood deal has set the current standard for a contributing wing on an expiring contract: two future seconds.
- Orlando is in a similar dilemma with Vucevic as the Clips are with Harris.
- Aaron Gordon could be a great piece in the right role. He needs to get away from thinking he is a wing like PG or lead guy like Lebron, but rather like a Draymond who can playmake and set great screens, finish and defend. He is "not a Portland kind of player, but Portland should still look at him."
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The Blazers are now trend setters. It feels so good at the cutting edge of small time trades.
 
Scalma said:
Here’s a question, would you give up our first for Saric? Straight swap.
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Hell yes, despite his struggles this year I think he's worth a 1st round pick in the 20's and he still has a year left on his rookie deal.

The only issues I see are the additional tax and not getting rid of any of any bad contracts. It would make this summer a little trickier but adding Saric is worth it.
 
I'd try to go at the Pacers for Thad Young who is solid and also on an expiring deal. Mo + Swanigan + 1st for him works. He's a legit 4 with playoff experience and toughness.
 
Scalma said:
Here’s a question, would you give up our first for Saric? Straight swap.
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The last plsyers we drafted in the 20s in the last 10 years:
2009 #21 Victor Claver,
2010 #22 Elliot Williams,
2011 #21 Nolan Smith,
2015 #23 Hollis Jefferson,
2017 #26 Caleb Swanigan,
2018 #24 Anfernee Simons.

Yes i would do it!.
 
Labinot41 said:
The last plsyers we drafted in the 20s in the last 10 years:
2009 #21 Victor Claver,
2010 #22 Elliot Williams,
2011 #21 Nolan Smith,
2015 #23 Hollis Jefferson,
2017 #26 Caleb Swanigan,
2018 #24 Anfernee Simons.

Yes i would do it!.
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Fun exercise for me always to go back in the history of drafts, but here are guys we could have gotten instead in the first round. Not looking at 2nd round.

2009: Casspi (23), Taj Gibson (26), Demarre Carroll (27)
2010 meh
2011 Faried (22), Mirotic (23), Jimmy Butler (30)
2015 Tyus Jones (24), Larry Nance (27), Looney (30)

2016 Denver drafted Malik Beasley who has been amazing this year with our pick that we traded for them. Caris Levert went 20, and Pascal Siakam was 27

2017 Kuzma (27), Derrick White (29), Josh Hart (30)
2018 Shamet (26)

There's legit starting quality/borderline stars to be found in the 20s every year. Just because we haven't found em of late doesn't mean we should just dismiss that pick's value. Given our current cap situation, we need to be somewhat judicious with putting that pick in play.
 
Dom McBlazer said:
I think AD said that he doesn't want to play for the Bulls.
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Yes. Windhorst says it's one of the worst kept secrets in the league. Funny. So many ballers love repping Chi-town But I guess it wouldn't be great hear locals talk shit about you in one of the cheapest organizations in sports.
 
I’ve mentioned this before but CJs numbers without Dame (27 ppg on 46% shooting, 5 boards, 5 assists) would intrigue me if I were a team about to lose my franchise player and in need of a new lead guy. Those Lakers pieces are all role players.
 
yuyuza1 said:
There's legit starting quality/borderline stars to be found in the 20s every year. Just because we haven't found em of late doesn't mean we should just dismiss that pick's value. Given our current cap situation, we need to be somewhat judicious with putting that pick in play.
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I have absolute confidence if we drafted any of those dudes listed in 2016 & 2017, they would have been glued to the bench and only gotten spot minutes. The talent is there, but Stotts doesn't develop his raw talent early on. If we traded for AD, I think they would have the margin for error that you need to give young players. I know Collins has gotten minutes, but he was a high draft pick from Olshay.
 
yuyuza1 said:
Fun exercise for me always to go back in the history of drafts, but here are guys we could have gotten instead in the first round. Not looking at 2nd round.

2009: Casspi (23), Taj Gibson (26), Demarre Carroll (27)
2010 meh
2011 Faried (22), Mirotic (23), Jimmy Butler (30)
2015 Tyus Jones (24), Larry Nance (27), Looney (30)

2016 Denver drafted Malik Beasley who has been amazing this year with our pick that we traded for them. Caris Levert went 20, and Pascal Siakam was 27

2017 Kuzma (27), Derrick White (29), Josh Hart (30)
2018 Shamet (26)

There's legit starting quality/borderline stars to be found in the 20s every year. Just because we haven't found em of late doesn't mean we should just dismiss that pick's value. Given our current cap situation, we need to be somewhat judicious with putting that pick in play.
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7 drafts x 10 picks in the 20's (#21-#30) = 70 players.

You listed 16 players, so that is a 23% success rate. Considering this was the initial question and premise….
Scalma said:
Here’s a question, would you give up our first for Saric? Straight swap.
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I would say I'd take Saric over 60% of your list.

Subjectively speaking, if you keep the pick, you'd have a 10% chance of getting someone better than Saric, 15% chance of having someone comparable, and a 75% chance of having someone worse.

Yes be selective using the pick as leverage, but don't over-value it...
 
tester551 said:
7 drafts x 10 picks in the 20's (#21-#30) = 70 players.

You listed 16 players, so that is a 23% success rate. Considering this was the initial question and premise….

I would say I'd take Saric over 60% of your list.

Subjectively speaking, if you keep the pick, you'd have a 10% chance of getting someone better than Saric, 15% chance of having someone comparable, and a 75% chance of having someone worse.

Yes be selective using the pick as leverage, but don't over-value it...
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Saric, yes.
Any other starter on a multi year deal, absolutely.

A 20 game rental of an oft-injured Mirotic? I'd think twice.
 
Labinot41 said:
What does arbitrage mean?? I need translation please
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Sounds to me like a fancy way of talking about a three-team-trade.

"Arbitrage" means both buying and selling the same asset in different markets to take advantage of differences in purchase prices.

In this case, it could be a situation where Davis wants to be in LA, but New Orleans doesn't want what LA is offering, perhaps a third team has something New Orleans wants (established star?), and would prefer the prospect/pick package LA would offer. That third team could "buy" AD from New Orleans, and then "sell" him to the Lakers.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Sounds to me like a fancy way of talking about a three-team-trade.

"Arbitrage" means both buying and selling the same asset in different markets to take advantage of differences in purchase prices.

In this case, it could be a situation where Davis wants to be in LA, but New Orleans doesn't want what LA is offering, perhaps a third team has something New Orleans wants (established star?), and would prefer the prospect/pick package LA would offer. That third team could "buy" AD from New Orleans, and then "sell" him to the Lakers.
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Thank you!
 
Labinot41 said:
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The Blazers may not yet be done, either, league sources told Sporting News. Even with Hood in the fold, they’ve continued to attempt to find ways to bring in another difference-maker to bolster their playoff prospects.

Portland general manager Neal Olshey was hesitant to make a move at the deadline last year, only offloading forward Noah Vonleh. Since then, other league executives have suggested Portland regretted the lack of deadline action.

How much of a splash the Blazers could make likely will depend on their willingness to include second-year forward Zach Collins in a deal. Portland has resisted inquiries about Collins, who has been developing slowly but steadily.

Portland is expected to make Harkless available, according to sources, as well as the team’s first-round pick. Harkless has another year on his contract, at $11.5 million, which would scare off teams looking to protect cap space next summer. (The Knicks and Nets, for example, have had interest in Harkless in the past.)

The Blazers also could dump Harkless as a way to reduce their luxury-tax bill, but the team already has a roster spot open and is intent on maximizing this current group, which could break up after this year when players like Evan Turner, Meyers Leonard and Harkless head into the final years of their contracts.

MORE: Tobias Harris drawing interest ahead of trade deadline

Portland has expressed interest in Pelicans big man Nikola Mirotic, among other available players — Evan Fournier of the Magic, Jeremy Lin of the Hawks, JaMychal Green of the Grizzlies — sources told Sporting News.

There’s good reason for the Blazers to strike now. In past seasons, Portland has been too reliant on pick-and-rolls from guards Damian Lillard and CJ McCollum as the staple of the offense. That produced regular-season wins but not playoff wins — over a seven-game series, opponents can make adjustments to disrupt even the best pick-and-roll offenses. That’s what the Pelicans did in sweeping the Blazers in the first round of last year’s playoffs.

Over the last five weeks, though, the Blazers have been expanding the offense and running things through center Jusuf Nurkic more frequently. Nurkic is only 24 and has made great strides as a ball handler and a passer out of double teams this season. He’s averaging 3.2 assists and has an assist percentage of 17.8, both career highs.

In 17 games going back to late December, Nurkic’s assist percentage has spiked to 21.4. Before that, his assist percentage had been just 15.2.

The offense, of course, still revolves around Lillard and McCollum, and according to NBA.com stats, Nurkic throws more than 75 percent of his passes to one of those guards. But he’s also throwing a lot more passes to those two. In the last 17 games, he’s thrown 37.4 Lillard-McCollum passes, up from 31.1 in the first 34 games of the year. Last year, Nurkic threw only 28.0 passes to Portland’s two star guards.

Ideally, in addition to Hood, the Blazers will add another top-tier perimeter threat for Nurkic to find. Portland has changed its approach. It’s got just a few days to further make its personnel line up with that new approach.

Dario Saric no longer part of the Wolfpack?
One of the highlights of the package brought back by the Timberwolves in the trade of Jimmy Butler to Philadelphia was forward Dario Saric, who is in his third year and was expected to be a solid stretch-4 to play alongside star center Karl-Anthony Towns.

But Saric has not displaced Taj Gibson in the starting five, and he has seen his production and playing time steadily decrease under new coach Ryan Saunders. Saric averaged 10.3 points and 23.3 minutes under former coach Tom Thibodeau. In his last 11 games, though, Saric is averaging 5.6 points and 20.6 minutes.

Saric could find himself on the trade block by Thursday. The Wolves likely would prefer to wait until the offseason to make a trade involving what was supposed to be the most valuable piece they got in return for Butler, but according to one league executive, "He could be had for a decent offer, a first-rounder and a player."
 
Would the Pelicans do a first and Moe for Mirotic?

Dame
CJ
Layman
Aminu
Nurkic

Curry
Hood
Turner
Mirotic
Collins

Seems a lot more balanced than what we have now.
 
Davis has always been a long-shot at best, but one I happily entertain. From a more realistic point, someone like Saric or Mirotic seems much more likely and would further help this team in the Playoffs.
 
ripcityboy said:
Yes. Windhorst says it's one of the worst kept secrets in the league. Funny. So many ballers love repping Chi-town But I guess it wouldn't be great hear locals talk shit about you in one of the cheapest organizations in sports.
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And that's what happens when you have one of the worst front offices in the league.
 
Scalma said:
Dario Saric no longer part of the Wolfpack?
Saric could find himself on the trade block by Thursday. The Wolves likely would prefer to wait until the offseason to make a trade involving what was supposed to be the most valuable piece they got in return for Butler, but according to one league executive, "He could be had for a decent offer, a first-rounder and a player."
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Curry + pick?
 
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