Game Thread 2023-24 Game #19 - BLAZERS @ JAZZ - DECEMBER 2, 2023 - SATURDAY - 6:30 PM PST - ROOT

[Chris Craig]

the official NBA postgame foul report said the Blazers hacked a couple Jazz players, and the refs missed those calls. All the shoves, headbutts, & eye pokes that Utah applied to Portland were considered perfectly clean minimal contact by the league office.

Not surprised.

 

[Chris Craig]

Yeah, it's funny to me as well. I hardly knew anyone who liked the Mikes when they were on, and then they get fired, and their fans come out of the woodworks. Happens with players all the time as well. mediocre role players always looked fondly at as "the one that got away", guys like Patty Mills, seeing it now with Zach Collins. Hell, people di it when Moses Brown had like 6 good games for OKC.

I always liked the Mikes.

 

[Chris Craig]

Yeah I like Tom too. I followed him on an ESPN podcast years ago.

However once the ball is in bounds I want to see 100% of the game. No picture in picture boxes, interviews, replays, discussions, etc.

Its fine if they want to do whatever audio only commentary. Or if they want to put those things on the screen for free throws, out of bounds, etc. But when the ball is thrown in bounds I want 100% to watch the full screen game.

Agreed. I want to watch the game 100% when it's happening.

 

[KingSpeed]

Did we get the point back for I think it was Shaedon making a three and ref said it was a two. But, replay showed it was a three.

Yes we did

 

[Pinwheel1]

Where is the next game thread? Will Grant miss the game?

 

[kjironman1]

Where is the next game thread? Will Grant miss the game?

He entered concussion protocol so maybe? Game is Wednesday so not sure?

 

[blazerfan11]

He entered concussion protocol do maybe? Game is Wednesday so not sure?

PORTLAND, Ore. (Dec. 4, 2023) – The Portland Trail Blazers have announced that forward Jerami Grant has been placed in the NBA’s concussion protocol.

Grant left Saturday night’s game at Utah during the fourth quarter and did not return.

Per the NBA’s Concussion Policy, Grant will now begin the NBA-mandated Return-to-Participation Protocol. This process includes a series of steps designed to ensure an athlete exhibits symptom-free behavior before resuming basketball activities. There is no predetermined timetable to complete the protocol, as each injury and player is different and recovery time can vary in each case.

https://www.nba.com/blazers/news/jerami-grant-injury-update

 

[kjironman1]

PORTLAND, Ore. (Dec. 4, 2023) – The Portland Trail Blazers have announced that forward Jerami Grant has been placed in the NBA’s concussion protocol.

Grant left Saturday night’s game at Utah during the fourth quarter and did not return.

Per the NBA’s Concussion Policy, Grant will now begin the NBA-mandated Return-to-Participation Protocol. This process includes a series of steps designed to ensure an athlete exhibits symptom-free behavior before resuming basketball activities. There is no predetermined timetable to complete the protocol, as each injury and player is different and recovery time can vary in each case.

https://www.nba.com/blazers/news/jerami-grant-injury-update

Wasn't Nassir Little out like two weeks?

 

[BBert]

The analytics guy is unlistenable, unwatchable, unteachable. Send him back to YouTube. Total minor league shit.

The analytics "expert" gets his "insider" stats from basketball reference just like the rest of us. What's his purpose again?

 

[BBert]

It's like they though that the team wouldn't be watchable this year so they needed other shit to keep people interested.... and they were wrong.

Also, the other shit isn't interesting.

 

[BBert]

the official NBA postgame foul report said the Blazers hacked a couple Jazz players, and the refs missed those calls. All the shoves, headbutts, & eye pokes that Utah applied to Portland were considered perfectly clean minimal contact by the league office.

Did they hire Huskies refs to score the replays?

 

[blazerfan11]

Wasn't Nassir Little out like two weeks?

The last time Little was in concussion protocol was after a game on Sunday, March 19th, 2023.
He missed the game on Wednesday the 22nd, then played again on the 24th.
I think it just depends on the symptoms of the player so every situation is different.


The Portland Trail Blazers placed forward Nassir Little in the concussion protocol on Wednesday.

Little was injured in Sunday night's game against the Los Angeles Clippers. Little took contact to the face but was cleared to return after going through an evaluation.

However, the team said he began exhibiting symptoms Tuesday and was evaluated further, resulting in Wednesday's move.

https://www.yardbarker.com/nba/arti...ttle_in_concussion_protocol/s1_17045_38610880

 

[blazerfan11]

 

[julius]

Yeah, it's funny to me as well. I hardly knew anyone who liked the Mikes when they were on, and then they get fired, and their fans come out of the woodworks. Happens with players all the time as well. mediocre role players always looked fondly at as "the one that got away", guys like Patty Mills, seeing it now with Zach Collins. Hell, people di it when Moses Brown had like 6 good games for OKC.

I liked Mike Rice when he was on the radio, but once he went to TV, his drunken old man routine got very tiresome. And MB was just so corporate, it was grating.

 

[Natebishop3]

The analytics "expert" gets his "insider" stats from basketball reference just like the rest of us. What's his purpose again?

He probably uses cleaningtheglass like Marang.

 

[Natebishop3]

Both? The foul they called on SS, and the play where he got fouled?

Here you go

https://official.nba.com/l2m/L2MReport.html?gameId=0022300289

They said both calls were correct.

 

[blazerfan11]

Here you go

https://official.nba.com/l2m/L2MReport.html?gameId=0022300289

They said both calls were correct.

Comment: Fontecchio (UTA) makes clean contact to the ball as he defends Sharpe's (POR) driving shot attempt. Additionally, Yurtseven (UTA) maintains verticality as he defends the driving shot attempt.

CNC (correct no call)

Yurtseven's arms are clearly not vertical; this is the classic foul where the defender brings his arms down.

Is this seriously now "maintaining verticality?" That used to be an automatic foul, just for that. As soon as we'd see the defender bring his arms down we'd wait for the whistle.

And, Who cares about whether Fontecchio's right arm is on the ball or not, when his left forearm is clearly in Sharpe's back.

An arm in the back of a player up in the air is also an automatic foul. If he shoves too much it could be a flagrant foul.

 

[kjironman1]

The last time Little was in concussion protocol was after a game on Sunday, March 19th, 2023.
He missed the game on Wednesday the 22nd, then played again on the 24th.
I think it just depends on the symptoms of the player so every situation is different.


The Portland Trail Blazers placed forward Nassir Little in the concussion protocol on Wednesday.

Little was injured in Sunday night's game against the Los Angeles Clippers. Little took contact to the face but was cleared to return after going through an evaluation.

However, the team said he began exhibiting symptoms Tuesday and was evaluated further, resulting in Wednesday's move.

https://www.yardbarker.com/nba/arti...ttle_in_concussion_protocol/s1_17045_38610880

Longer back than last year. Covid/bubble year if I remember correctly?

 

[Natebishop3]

Comment: Fontecchio (UTA) makes clean contact to the ball as he defends Sharpe's (POR) driving shot attempt. Additionally, Yurtseven (UTA) maintains verticality as he defends the driving shot attempt.

CNC (correct no call)

Yurtseven's arms are clearly not vertical; this is the classic foul where the defender brings his arms down.

Is this seriously now "maintaining verticality?" That used to be an automatic foul, just for that. As soon as we'd see the defender bring his arms down we'd wait for the whistle.

And, Who cares about whether Fontecchio's right arm is on the ball or not, when his left forearm is clearly in Sharpe's back.

An arm in the back of a player up in the air is also an automatic foul. If he shoves too much it could be a flagrant foul.






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Plus they hit him in the head after the initial contact. It’s bullshit.

 

[Pinwheel1]

Comment: Fontecchio (UTA) makes clean contact to the ball as he defends Sharpe's (POR) driving shot attempt. Additionally, Yurtseven (UTA) maintains verticality as he defends the driving shot attempt.

CNC (correct no call)

Yurtseven's arms are clearly not vertical; this is the classic foul where the defender brings his arms down.

Is this seriously now "maintaining verticality?" That used to be an automatic foul, just for that. As soon as we'd see the defender bring his arms down we'd wait for the whistle.

And, Who cares about whether Fontecchio's right arm is on the ball or not, when his left forearm is clearly in Sharpe's back.

An arm in the back of a player up in the air is also an automatic foul. If he shoves too much it could be a flagrant foul.






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Especially when you compare it to the foul on Sharpe for doing the same, BTW the video they included on Sharpe's loose ball foul was not the best one. The Blazer feed had a close up as I recall........that showed minimal contact.

 

[handiman]

Yurtseven's arms are clearly not vertical; this is the classic foul where the defender brings his arms down.

Is this seriously now "maintaining verticality?"

I think they're trying to differentiate cause and effect. Try keeping your arms vertical when someone slams into your chest with pretty good force... That's different than bringing your arms down to contest the shot.

I agree with that part of the No Call, but not the contact from behind.