Game Thread 2024-25 GAME #11- BLAZERS VS GRIZZLIES - NOVEMBER 10, 2024 - SUNDAY - 6 PM - KATU 2.2, BLAZERVISION

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The silly thing about all of this bullshit is that we've seen what Scoot and Shae look like leading this team... they both did it at the end of their rookie years. We haven't seen what that looks like with both of them at the same time but both of them played way better when they weren't trying to fit in with Jerami and Ant. They both looked more comfortable and were both way more aggressive on both ends. There is no doubt about it, this two timeline nonsense is hurting the development of these young guys.
 
SharpesTriumph said:
This game has actually made me super impressed that we have 3 wins.
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two were against the injury-ravaged Pelicans

noknobs said:
I bet everyone who has posted in this thread could get up right now off the sofa, wipe the chips from their shirt and shoot better than 1-22 from three.
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I'd leave the chips on my shirt for balance
 
SharpesTriumph said:
Every player on the Blazers was acquired by Joe or signed a contract when Joe was the GM, as of the 2023-24 season!

Long past time to try and blame Joe's mess on Olshey. This Blazers mess of a roster is 100% Cronin.

I don't fault Joe for any of those picks you list that he selected.

I do fault him for having 5 worthless vets eating 100+ million in Grant Ayton Ant Timelord Thybulle. It never made any sense to build around these guys after Lillard was traded.
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Yeah, it was evident to me very quickly that Joe was in way over his head.

Nearly every move he’s made (or didn’t make) since has just compounded my initial thoughts of him.

He must have some kind of dirt on Jody.
 
blazerkor said:
The silly thing about all of this bullshit is that we've seen what Scoot and Shae look like leading this team... they both did it at the end of their rookie years. We haven't seen what that looks like with both of them at the same time but both of them played way better when they weren't trying to fit in with Jerami and Ant. They both looked more comfortable and were both way more aggressive on both ends. There is no doubt about it, this two timeline nonsense is hurting the development of these young guys.
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You may be correct.

Even if your wrong, what purpose do all 5 of these vets provide? I can understand one or two of them, but just from as asset perspective to rebuild the roster it made zero sense to hold onto all of them the moment Dame was traded.
 
SharpesTriumph said:
Think your underestimating how little talent we do have.

Memphis was a 1.5 point favorite tonight.... Even after all their injuries and players out were announced.
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They had less talent tonight, just better coached.

Huff and Laravia are decent players. But our top 3 players tonight were way better than their top 3 that played.

Our starting lineup from a pure talent perspective was way better than theirs.
 
Five Second Violation said:
I think it's bordering on an objective fact at this point that the two timelines thing from Joe has been a total fucking disaster. There really isn't even a remote semblance of a light at the end of the tunnel.
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It’s been my biggest criticism of the team going on a couple years now.

Shit or get off the pot.
 
MickZagger said:
Yeah, it was evident to me very quickly that Joe was in way over his head.

Nearly every move he’s made (or didn’t make) since has just compounded my initial thoughts of him.

He must have some kind of dirt on Jody.
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All his draft picks have been fine. The Dame to Milwaukee part of the trade was very good, especially considering the 1 team request chaos he had to navigate.

The other moves he has made or players he has kept have been perplexing at best.

The biggest problem is none of his moves follow a consistent plan. Trade vet for pick, trade pick for vet, sit vets, resign overpaid players, trade vet for picks, trade picks for vets.

This isn't just a Dame thing either, he trades Dame for picks then trades those picks for a role player in Deni a year later. That's not how a long term rebuild should be done.

Zero long term strategic direction.
 
Ugly is as ugly does. Did the Blazers leave any paint on the rims? Memphis scored 134 points on 85 shots; Blazers score 89 points on 100 shots.

dumpster fires on every level of the franchise. I guess it's good for the tank, but the inertia is boring as hell
 
It could be worse. the Blazers still have more wins that the Bucks.

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Remember when we went to that meet-up with Brian Wheeler and, I think it was Bobby Medina who was there said: (correct me if it was someone else)

In the NBA "you want to be really good, or really bad."

The Blazers are definitely really bad!

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This needs to be the entire season.

Just fucking suck. Lose every game. Any wins are the organizations fault.
 
Cugel said:
Uh Sochan, Jalen Williams. Duren. And that is just 2022
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Will you PLEASE go find your posts on here about how we should have drafted them instead in the draft thread from ‘22?
 
Cugel said:
Uh Sochan, Jalen Williams. Duren. And that is just 2022
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Eh, so a few guys drafted below him have been better. And his scoring is right in line with the rest of the guys drafted around where he was drafted.

He almost certainly has more athletic ability

Doesn't seem like that huge of a miss, honestly, considering the situation he's had. When he's been given the keys he's looked great.

Scoot has 2 guys with more points per game and he's tops in assists per game. And they have more minutes. Same thing. He's had stretches where he's looked real good.

Scoot and Sharpe need the keys.
 
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There isn’t currently a single guy to feel great about. Not a coach, a front office guy, not a player, and not the owners. You could legitimately say this team has the least promising future of any team in the nba. Boston would not trade Payton Pritchard for Scoot.
 
Not only do the Blazers have no talent. Now they have no talent that has been scouted!

Enjoy what you can this season folks.

Go Blazers!

Kjironman is a fan!!!

Edit- Lottery Gods please be kind!
 
GoZers said:
There isn’t currently a single guy to feel great about. Not a coach, a front office guy, not a player, and not the owners. You could legitimately say this team has the least promising future of any team in the nba. Boston would not trade Payton Pritchard for Scoot.
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Even in the worst years of the JailBlazers era we had much more talent on the team. Miles had insane athleticism we had seen over multiple seasons on the court, ZBo was an unstoppable force inside, Travis Outlaw had the athletic potential way above Jermaine Oneal, Martell Webster was young with a lazer accurate shooting stroke, even an underwhelming sophomore Telfair had enough untapped upside to be flipped for a lottery pick that became Brandon Roy. Those rosters had major flaws too, but there was real potential and talent mixed in with it.

Those were some of the worst Blazer rosters since I've been a fan over the last 35 years. This current Blazers roster is nowhere close to the talent of any of those rosters unfortunetly. Today is truly the dark days of being a Blazer fans and I'm impressed with anyone that follows this team. My concern isn't for the next 3 years as we're obviously going to suck for all of them - its concern for the next decade and beyond as I question the leadership of this franchise from the top of ownership all the way down to the GM. Will they ever be capable of building a talented roster?
 
Mediocre Man said:
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Exactly my point - 100% of the roster, even at the start of last season, has been assembled by Joe Cronin.

Thus your justifications of what "Cronin was stuck with inheriting" no longer apply. When Cronin did the Clippers trade? Ok, fine you can try and use that as an excuse back then. Eventually those excuses end and a GM gets judged on the multiple years of work they have done. We are certainly at that point with Joe Cronin.
 
THE HCP said:
Will you PLEASE go find your posts on here about how we should have drafted them instead in the draft thread from ‘22?
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why should he? we're just fans here, speculating

More to the point: we aren't being paid millions of dollars a year to make the best draft decisions. Olshey was; Cronin is
 
THE HCP said:
Will you PLEASE go find your posts on here about how we should have drafted them instead in the draft thread from ‘22?
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That's not my job. Picking talent is the FOs job. There were red flags with Shae. I love his potential but he has to stay healthy and on the court 30+ min a game.
 
Cugel said:
That's not my job. Picking talent is the FOs job. There were red flags with Shae. I love his potential but he has to stay healthy and on the court 30+ min a game.
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Exactly. Cronin and the scouts are being paid handsomely to make the right picks - and they are failing. I'm being paid to do something else, and if I were doing as poorly at it as those people are in their roles, I'd be on my way out.
 
SharpesTriumph said:
Even in the worst years of the JailBlazers era we had much more talent on the team. Miles had insane athleticism we had seen over multiple seasons on the court, ZBo was an unstoppable force inside, Travis Outlaw had the athletic potential way above Jermaine Oneal, Martell Webster was young with a lazer accurate shooting stroke, even an underwhelming sophomore Telfair had enough untapped upside to be flipped for a lottery pick that became Brandon Roy. Those rosters had major flaws too, but there was real potential and talent mixed in with it.

Those were some of the worst Blazer rosters since I've been a fan over the last 35 years. This current Blazers roster is nowhere close to the talent of any of those rosters unfortunetly. Today is truly the dark days of being a Blazer fans and I'm impressed with anyone that follows this team. My concern isn't for the next 3 years as we're obviously going to suck for all of them - its concern for the next decade and beyond as I question the leadership of this franchise from the top of ownership all the way down to the GM. Will they ever be capable of building a talented roster?
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That's silly. We have some solid players. This isn't the Sergei Monya/Juan Dixon years. Those were BLEAK. It takes genuine coaching talent to lose this badly. We actually had more on-court talent than the Grizzlies tonight.
 
Cugel said:
That's not my job. Picking talent is the FOs job. There were red flags with Shae. I love his potential but he has to stay healthy and on the court 30+ min a game.
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Looked like you were posting as if it was obvious that we would have picked other players and didn’t. My bad…..
 
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