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wizenheimer said:
really glad Simons is gone....

Holiday is 35, coming off his worst season as a pro, and will make 35M/year over the next 3 seasons. In other words he has the contract that many here were worried Cronin was going to give Simons

I guess this can be a first move and there might be others. But right now it sure looks like the F.O. wants to go for the playoffs next year

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Playoffs sure, but most importantly, letting Scoot and Shaedon take full responsibility in the backcourt going forward. That alone is worth the price of admission imo.
 
Sheldon Shape said:
Playoffs sure, but most importantly, letting Scoot and Shaedon take full responsibility in the backcourt going forward. That alone is worth the price of admission imo.
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This trade won't help Scoot get more playing time.

The good news is that if Scoot does get more playing time its because he got way better (or Jrue is hurt).
 
JFizzleRaider said:


Holy shit. Boston is going to save 40 million in tax savings. The fact we had to add anything to Simons is awful. They should have had to add things to us.
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Sloppy reporting. Jrue is owed $104.4 mil over three seasons. Ant just $27.7 mil. Source is Hoopshype.
 
BIG Q said:
Sloppy reporting. Jrue is owed $104.4 mil over three seasons. Ant just $27.7 mil. Source is Hoopshype.
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Not sloppy reporting. Since the trade (presumably) is done, it is still using this current year's salaries. So Marks is showing what the salaries are they were traded on, and the future ones.
 
I dreamed of a first for Simmons. We got that in Jrue, that’s a first whatever we do.
 
RR7 said:
Not sloppy reporting. Since the trade (presumably) is done, it is still using this current year's salaries. So Marks is showing what the salaries are they were traded on, and the future ones.
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Yes, he included this seasons salary which has been paid. But Jrue has three seasons on his deal past the conclusion of this season. He only put up two seasons worth of salary for Jrue going forward, not all three. That is all.
 
BIG Q said:
Yes, he included this seasons salary which has been paid. But Jrue has three seasons on his deal past the conclusion of this season. He only put up two seasons worth of salary for Jrue going forward, not all three. That is all.
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That's because Simons and Holiday both have salaries for 25-26.

The two seasons Marks is talking about are 26-27 and 27-28.
 
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Don’t Sabonis and KAT have similar deals that both end in 27-28 season?

Who would you rather pair with Clingan?
 
BIG Q said:
Yes, he included this seasons salary which has been paid. But Jrue has three seasons on his deal past the conclusion of this season. He only put up two seasons worth of salary for Jrue going forward, not all three. That is all.
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Because Simons also has 1 year left. He said they got off the 72 owed to Jrue in 26-27 and 27-28.
He shows 4 seasons of Jrue (3 going forward)
To Portland Jrue Holiday: $30M, $32.4M, $34.8M, $37.2M (Player, 2027)
 
Jrue will not wear Blazers uniform. He will be traded to a win-now team in need of PG. We are compete now, not win now
 
TBpup said:
Keith Smith is dating the Blazers are now Hard Capped. I still don't get why we included picks to take on a bigger salary and if that also hard caps the Blazers, this doesn't seem too good.
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Did he say how he came up with that?

BBREF says the Blazers have about 171M in scheduled payroll next season. The tax line is 188-189M. So, Portland is 17-18M below the tax. Jrue makes about 5M more than Simons. The 11th pick will be about 4.5M. So Portland would be 8-9M below the tax with 14 players
 
wizenheimer said:
Did he say how he came up with that?

BBREF says the Blazers have about 171M in scheduled payroll next season. The tax line is 188-189M. So, Portland is 17-18M below the tax. Jrue makes about 5M more than Simons. The 11th pick will be about 4.5M. So Portland would be 8-9M below the tax with 14 players
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Taking back more than 110% of the salary sent out in a trade can trigger a hard cap.
 
wizenheimer said:
Did he say how he came up with that?

BBREF says the Blazers have about 171M in scheduled payroll next season. The tax line is 188-189M. So, Portland is 17-18M below the tax. Jrue makes about 5M more than Simons. The 11th pick will be about 4.5M. So Portland would be 8-9M below the tax with 14 players
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1st apron is triggered if you make a trade taking in more than you send out. We'll see, per the Highkin post above, if this deal is expanded to avoid that, however.
 
Tince said:
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This could save the day. This is the first report of the deal not being consummated until the new league year, which makes the 24-25 salaries moot for matching purposes as they will be using the 25-26 salaries, as well as any potential players and picks being added. This is why I kept saying if the Ant/Jrue trade is done, it sucks in m estimation. If it is still open to add, say, Sacramento, that could change the entire perspective of the deal. Hopefully another team is in need of an aging PG due $104.4 mil over three seasons. Fingers crossed.
 
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