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The Blazers trade #7 for?

  • Multiple picks - keep one, trade one for Grant

  • Multiple picks - keep one, trade one for Collins

  • Down to #11 and get Randle

  • Down to #17 and get Wood

  • Include #7 with Nurk (S&T) for Ayton

  • OG Anunoby

  • Plus other assets to move up

  • Other - please specify

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wizenheimer said:
so then, the 'best case' scenario from that:

* #7 + the 6.5M TPE for PJ + #13 + #15

Bledsoe + #15 for Grant

(maybe it would be better to use the big TPE for Washington leaving Blazers with TPE's of 16.6M, 6.5M, 3,3M)

that would be settling though because a forward tandem of Grant + Washington has a definite ceiling. And one component of the ceiling would be having a weak rebounding pair of forwards (a combined rebounding rate of 17% is not good)

that return, in and of itself would be the epitome of meh. A lot would hinge on how well the Blazers did with #13. And all that is assuming that Portland didn't spend both of their TPE in the trades or give up the 13 + Milwaukee pick for Grant

I'd really hope for better and the only reason I'd lean toward 'liking' that trade is because of the lurking 'inevitability' of giving the 7 & the TPE for Grant,,,,geeeezuz
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tbh I would only give the Milwaukee pick for grant, I’d want to keep 13 and 15 and see if we could do something better, like Collins or OG.
 
B Report in a mock draft has us trading 7 and EB for OG A and 33.

They have Sac trading 4 & Barnes to Atlanta for 16,44 and John Collins
 
- Sochan is one of the best and most versatile defenders in his class. At 6-9 and 230 pounds, he can guard all five positions at a high level, especially when he's forced to switch out on the perimeter and contain guards off the dribble. In an age where Giannis Antetokounmpo, Kevin Durant, Luka Doncic and Jayson Tatum are four of the league's best individual players and the game is shifting more toward the perimeter, teams need players like Sochan to give their defense a chance at slowing these explosive offenses down.
 
I'd MUCH rather get Sochan than Grant and it's not close. It's insane to me they are considering trading the #7 for Grant, just disgusting. Trading for the 13 and 15 and then using 15 to get Grant and drafting Sochan, Eason or Duren at #13 is vastly, VASTLY more palatable and then you can trade Nurk in an S&T for a wing if we got Duren.
 
Idog1976 said:
I'd MUCH rather get Sochan than Grant and it's not close. It's insane to me they are considering trading the #7 for Grant, just disgusting. Trading for the 13 and 15 and then using 15 to get Grant and drafting Sochan, Eason or Duren at #13 is vastly, VASTLY more palatable and then you can trade Nurk in an S&T for a wing if we got Duren.
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Agreed with that line of thought.....although don't think Duren or Sochan makes it to #13. We'd have to be okay with Eason, Dieng, Mark/Jalen Williams, or Jovic.
 
Idog1976 said:
I'd MUCH rather get Sochan than Grant and it's not close. It's insane to me they are considering trading the #7 for Grant, just disgusting. Trading for the 13 and 15 and then using 15 to get Grant and drafting Sochan, Eason or Duren at #13 is vastly, VASTLY more palatable and then you can trade Nurk in an S&T for a wing if we got Duren.
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I sure hope if Cronin and his advisors really like a player that will be gone at 13 that they don't even think about trading down.
 
TBpup said:
Agreed with that line of thought.....although don't think Duren or Sochan makes it to #13. We'd have to be okay with Eason, Dieng, Mark/Jalen Williams, or Jovic.
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We didn't trade down in 2012. Or 2013. Or any other year after that for first round picks (that I recall).
We're thinking of doing this for Jerami Grant?
 
blazerfan11 said:
We didn't trade down in 2012. Or 2013. Or any other year after that for first round picks (that I recall).
We're thinking of doing this for Jerami Grant?
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Yeah, I think that's the jist of it. I think a lot of us just don't want to outright trade the seventh pick for Grant and are hoping for a much better outcome. Picking at 13 or hopefully at 9 wouldn't be bad when contrasted with not picking at all.
 
Hello.

I voted other. I did not see a trade up option.
I am warming up to trying to trade uo to five to get Murray Nd using our 2025 and Bledsoe to go after grant.

Dame/Simons/Johnson
Hart/Simons/Johnson
Murray/Nas
Grant/Winslow
Nurk/Watford

??

Edit: I have lost track of our roster!
I skipped Keon and NAS!!!
 
BlazerBender said:
Hello.

I voted other. I did not see a trade up option.
I am warming up to trying to trade uo to five to get Murray Nd using our 2025 and Bledsoe to go after grant.

Dame/Simons/Johnson
Hart/Simons/Johnson
Murray/Nas
Grant/Winslow
Nurk/Watford

??

Edit: I have lost track of our roster!
I skipped Keon and NAS!!!
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Purgatory
 
TBpup said:
Agreed with that line of thought.....although don't think Duren or Sochan makes it to #13. We'd have to be okay with Eason, Dieng, Mark/Jalen Williams, or Jovic.
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Well if we don't think Sochan/Eason/Duren is still on the board by 13 I'm a lot less excited about that trade. FFS don't trade it for Jerami Grant mein GOT!
 
Idog1976 said:
Well if we don't think Sochan/Eason/Duren is still on the board by 13 I'm a lot less excited about that trade. FFS don't trade it for Jerami Grant mein GOT!
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Well if rumors are correct we're very high on Dieng. I could see us trading back to a place where we can get Grant and Dieng and I don't know enough to know if that would be a waste of the 7th pick. I would like to see us trade back to the Spurs at 9 and 25, draft Sochan at 9 and get Grant for 25 and if any future first is invloved it should only be our 2028 which I believe will be available draft night.
 
Sochan is an intriging prospect. Defense looks awesome. But his offense looks poor in college. So I'd expect he is a worse version of Aminu or Harkless his first few years in the league. Maybe eventually his offense improves. Maybe not.

Seems like more of a mid first round prospect than what you hope for at #7.

I don't see Dame or Cronin going with drafting a project like this. They want to win now. They'd probably prefer trading him for a veteran, even Grant.

I'd think it makes more sense to use our pick, maybe eventually trade Dame and rebuild.
 
WesleyMatthews said:
Sochan is an intriging prospect. Defense looks awesome. But his offense looks poor in college. So I'd expect he is a worse version of Aminu or Harkless his first few years in the league. Maybe eventually his offense improves. Maybe not.

Seems like more of a mid first round prospect than what you hope for at #7.

I don't see Dame or Cronin going with drafting a project like this. They want to win now. They'd probably prefer trading him for a veteran, even Grant.

I'd think it makes more sense to use our pick, maybe eventually trade Dame and rebuild.
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I don't know what you know about Aminu, Harkless, and Sochan. It can't be very much.
 
WesleyMatthews said:
Sochan is an intriging prospect. Defense looks awesome. But his offense looks poor in college. So I'd expect he is a worse version of Aminu or Harkless his first few years in the league. Maybe eventually his offense improves. Maybe not.

Seems like more of a mid first round prospect than what you hope for at #7.

I don't see Dame or Cronin going with drafting a project like this. They want to win now. They'd probably prefer trading him for a veteran, even Grant.

I'd think it makes more sense to use our pick, maybe eventually trade Dame and rebuild.
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"Sochan reads the floor well on the move and understands where his teammates should be.

He also seems to be able to process very quickly when the help leaves his teammate.

If he gets by his guy and sees another defender sliding over to help, he very quickly processes which teammate the help came from, and hits that teammate with a good pass.

One more strength for Sochan is his ability to handle the basketball.

He's capable of taking the ball off the rim on the defensive end and initiating the break, attacking the closeout hard in the halfcourt, or creating something out of structure when the offensive flow breaks down. "

These are comments about a guy who just turned 19.
 
blazerfan11 said:
"Sochan reads the floor well on the move and understands where his teammates should be.

He also seems to be able to process very quickly when the help leaves his teammate.

If he gets by his guy and sees another defender sliding over to help, he very quickly processes which teammate the help came from, and hits that teammate with a good pass.

One more strength for Sochan is his ability to handle the basketball.

He's capable of taking the ball off the rim on the defensive end and initiating the break, attacking the closeout hard in the halfcourt, or creating something out of structure when the offensive flow breaks down. "

These are comments about a guy who just turned 19.
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His offensive production is pretty average at the college level. How do you think it will be next year at the much more difficult NBA level?

Long term I agree with you. The kid is 19 and has the tools to be a star.

But my comment was in regards to next season+. He's likely going to be a very minus offensive player. Your kidding yourself if you think he has a high chance at 20 to make the kind of impact Dame and Cronin want right away. Look how many years it took an older Kawhi to contribute.

He's a kid. Dame wants grown men to help him now.

We can get excited about his potential and possibilities. I wish that was the future this franchise was focused on. Instead we're doing this doomed stupid attempt to contend now.
 
blazerfan11 said:
"Sochan reads the floor well on the move and understands where his teammates should be.

He also seems to be able to process very quickly when the help leaves his teammate.

If he gets by his guy and sees another defender sliding over to help, he very quickly processes which teammate the help came from, and hits that teammate with a good pass.

One more strength for Sochan is his ability to handle the basketball.

He's capable of taking the ball off the rim on the defensive end and initiating the break, attacking the closeout hard in the halfcourt, or creating something out of structure when the offensive flow breaks down. "

These are comments about a guy who just turned 19.
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I'll just say it again, I would really like to trade back to 9 and 25, take Sochan at 9 and get Grant with 25 and as little more draft capital as is possible. For me if we did that, got a good backup C and a legit backup PG who would be OK getting very few minutes unless there was an injury to Dame or Ant, then we will have put the best team around Dame that he's had in his career.

I really love Sochan though. He is aggressive on both ends of the court, he does everything we would need next to Grant and Nurk, he shot 58% from two and has a nice looking three point shot that goes in when he's open. I don't think he's a developmental project as far as if he can have a positive impact on getting us wins as a starter from day one. If the other starters are Dame, Ant, Grant and Nurk then Sochan is ready made to be the role player we need next to him... the developmental process with Sochan is if he'll be a defense first role player that keeps teams honest on offense or if he'll be a star.
 
Sochan if we don’t trade up for Keegan

He’s going to be a smart and extremely irritating defensive player like CP3
 
WesleyMatthews said:
His offensive production is pretty average at the college level. How do you think it will be next year at the much more difficult NBA level?

Long term I agree with you. The kid is 19 and has the tools to be a star.

But my comment was in regards to next season+. He's likely going to be a very minus offensive player. Your kidding yourself if you think he has a high chance at 20 to make the kind of impact Dame and Cronin want right away. Look how many years it took an older Kawhi to contribute.

He's a kid. Dame wants grown men to help him now.

We can get excited about his potential and possibilities. I wish that was the future this franchise was focused on. Instead we're doing this doomed stupid attempt to contend now.
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If the Blazers can't trade for a superstar the next best option is to rely on the draft and be patient. No, I don't expect Sochan to be really good or maybe even good in his first season or two.
But he fills a position of biggest need (PF / backup C) so should get plenty of playing time if the Blazers draft him.
 
blazerfan11 said:
If the Blazers can't trade for a superstar the next best option is to rely on the draft and be patient. No, I don't expect Sochan to be really good or maybe even good in his first season or two.
But he fills a position of biggest need (PF / backup C) so should get plenty of playing time if the Blazers draft him.
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I agree that would be best. Do you think Dame or Cronin will be ok with that though? I don't think they will.
 
blazerkor said:
I'll just say it again, I would really like to trade back to 9 and 25, take Sochan at 9 and get Grant with 25 and as little more draft capital as is possible. For me if we did that, got a good backup C and a legit backup PG who would be OK getting very few minutes unless there was an injury to Dame or Ant, then we will have put the best team around Dame that he's had in his career.

I really love Sochan though. He is aggressive on both ends of the court, he does everything we would need next to Grant and Nurk, he shot 58% from two and has a nice looking three point shot that goes in when he's open. I don't think he's a developmental project as far as if he can have a positive impact on getting us wins as a starter from day one. If the other starters are Dame, Ant, Grant and Nurk then Sochan is ready made to be the role player we need next to him... the developmental process with Sochan is if he'll be a defense first role player that keeps teams honest on offense or if he'll be a star.
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Wouldn't Dame/Cronin prefer to get Grant as you say but trade the 9th/Sochan/etc for a second veteran?

I just can't see the Blazers bringing back Dame to try and win now along with a rookie lottery pick.
 
blazerkor said:
I'll just say it again, I would really like to trade back to 9 and 25, take Sochan at 9 and get Grant with 25 and as little more draft capital as is possible. For me if we did that, got a good backup C and a legit backup PG who would be OK getting very few minutes unless there was an injury to Dame or Ant, then we will have put the best team around Dame that he's had in his career.

I really love Sochan though. He is aggressive on both ends of the court, he does everything we would need next to Grant and Nurk, he shot 58% from two and has a nice looking three point shot that goes in when he's open. I don't think he's a developmental project as far as if he can have a positive impact on getting us wins as a starter from day one. If the other starters are Dame, Ant, Grant and Nurk then Sochan is ready made to be the role player we need next to him... the developmental process with Sochan is if he'll be a defense first role player that keeps teams honest on offense or if he'll be a star.
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I think the Blazers will have many good options on offense. What changed the direction and culture of the team was more of an emphasis on defense and ball movement. I know it's best to shoot for the stars with the number 7 pick, but need is also important if that player is going to get playing time and develop.
 
My fave probably would be OG for #7 and TPE (or we could use Bledsoe and save TPE) so more incentive as Tor cuts their cap by around 18 mil, don't know if Raps are interested enough in anyone at 7 that they might do it, from comments I have seen on trade boards it is rated a pretty "fair trade"
 
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