Dame asks for trade (And there it is)

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Pinwheel1 said:
Are you saying let them keep Barnes too? That would be a no-brainer for Toronto. Obviously, getting Barnes would be a no-brainer for us, but even if we didn't, I do think that Gradey Dick, Boucher, and Precious would still be better for Portland than what Miami is offering. Gradey's upside is huge IMO
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Was in agreement with you until the Gradey comment. I think he'll be a bench player. That negative wingspan combined with his lack of explosion does not scream upside to me.
 
For salary, they need to do a combo of Barnes+Boucher/Trent + several filler players. Pretty challenging to balance out the money.
 
illmatic99 said:
Was in agreement with you until the Gradey comment. I think he'll be a bench player. That negative wingspan combined with his lack of explosion does not scream upside to me.
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This is what I had read.....but now I see where it might be wrong: https://bleacherreport.com/articles...-fans-after-raptors-take-sg-in-2023-nba-draft

"Dick recorded a 40-inch vertical and a nearly seven-foot wingspan at the 2023 NBA Draft Combine. He named Indiana Pacers Hall of Famer Reggie Miller, one of the best shooters in NBA history, as one of his inspirations.

With shooting potential like that, Raptors fans will hope Dick will soon be making NBA headlines for more reasons than his sparkling sartorial choices"
 
ant said:
For salary, they need to do a combo of Barnes+Boucher/Trent + several filler players. Pretty challenging to balance out the money.
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Boucher/Barnes/Young/Porter/Dick/Achiuwa for Dame/Keon barely works.
If Trent is added, Barnes/Porter/Dick can all be removed.
 
I think everyone would want Barnes.

I just don't understand folks that hate OG coming back if its the best offer on the table for us? Give us OG, picks, Grady etc. Only if OG will sign an extension with us. I do not care if we have to overpay a little to do so as we will have scoot and Sharpe on cheap deals.

That's a better offer than anything Miami is giving us.
 
SlyPokerCat said:
I think everyone would want Barnes.

I just don't understand folks that hate OG coming back if its the best offer on the table for us? Give us OG, picks, Grady etc. Only if OG will sign an extension with us. I do not care if we have to overpay a little to do so as we will have scoot and Sharpe on cheap deals.

That's a better offer than anything Miami is giving us.
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That is a big if and I doubt he would commit to it before the trade. But having said that, I agree that it is still better than what Miami is offering.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
That is a big if and I doubt he would commit to it before the trade. But having said that, I agree that it is still better than what Miami is offering.
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Agreed, but we can ask him what he is thinking, what he would want $$$ wise, what he is looking for, if he is open to staying. If it doesn't work out, flip him at the deadline for assets. OG is gonna get you more back than Herro, IMO.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Boucher/Barnes/Young/Porter/Dick/Achiuwa for Dame/Keon barely works.
If Trent is added, Barnes/Porter/Dick can all be removed.
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Or if they preferred to keep Boucher over Trent, then we could take a Barnes/Trent combo back, and move Trent or Ant later.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Especially since he's just quoting Mark Jackson's lame ass who was taking credit for the Warriors success.
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I know you and others like to shit on Dame, but he also posted that same quote on his Twitter in 2015...whatever he means, he didnt just quote Mark Jackson, come on
 
sheed30 said:
I know you and others like to shit on Dame, but he also posted that same quote on his Twitter in 2015...whatever he means, he didnt just quote Mark Jackson, come on
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And he could mean almost anything ....
 
sheed30 said:
I know you and others like to shit on Dame, but he also posted that same quote on his Twitter in 2015...whatever he means, he didnt just quote Mark Jackson, come on
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When did Mark Jackson say that? Could it have been in 2015, after the Warriors won their first title?
 
PtldPlatypus said:
When did Mark Jackson say that? Could it have been in 2015, after the Warriors won their first title?
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I thought it was after ESPN fired him but honestly I don’t like the guy and really didn’t chase it that hard lol.
 
ant said:
Maybe. But they finished at .500 last season, missed the playoffs, and all their talent is in their forwards. They’re going to be mediocre or worse again this season with their downgrade at PG. Where do they go from here? They have a rare opportunity to add an amazing scorer and leader to balance out their roster and have a chance to contend. Barnes is a huge price to pay, but might be worth it when the East is wide open.
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I like Poeltl so much more then Nurk, so I don't agree with the bolded part. Barnes effectively guards 1-5 and can blend with most anyone. When people talk positionless Bball, he's that guy as he's got a deep bag of tricks. So much so, here's guessing he'll be their de facto PG this year.

If I'm them and Barnes is the demanded for price for Lillard, I want future unprotected 1sts back as well.

STOMP
 
STOMP said:
I like Poeltl so much more then Nurk, so I don't agree with the bolded part. Barnes effectively guards 1-5 and can blend with most anyone. When people talk positionless Bball, he's that guy as he's got a deep bag of tricks. So much so, here's guessing he'll be their de facto PG this year.

If I'm them and Barnes is the demanded for price for Lillard, I want future unprotected 1sts back as well.

STOMP
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Oh yeah, I agree with you about Poeltl, I forgot about him quietly being there. Underrated center. Their underwhelming season is kind of a head scratcher, with him, Siakam, OG, Barnes…
 
Pinwheel1 said:
This is what I had read.....but now I see where it might be wrong: https://bleacherreport.com/articles...-fans-after-raptors-take-sg-in-2023-nba-draft

"Dick recorded a 40-inch vertical and a nearly seven-foot wingspan at the 2023 NBA Draft Combine. He named Indiana Pacers Hall of Famer Reggie Miller, one of the best shooters in NBA history, as one of his inspirations.
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Whats wrong is reading Bleacherreport and thinking it might be right

According to the actual NBA Draft Combine measurements, Dick recorded a max verticle of 34" with a 6'8.75 wingspan. His running/agility times were decent. I bet it will take him a couple years to physically mature and learn how to guard, but his shot could lead to a starting job

STOMP
 
This is a trade idea that is not the worse in the world and probably pretty good for Dame if he really wants a ring. Bucks trade Jrue Holiday, Bobby Portis, a 2024 first-round pick and a 2025 first-round pick to the Blazers for Lillard
 
Irish Trader said:
This is a trade idea that is not the worse in the world and probably pretty good for Dame if he really wants a ring. Bucks trade Jrue Holiday, Bobby Portis, a 2024 first-round pick and a 2025 first-round pick to the Blazers for Lillard
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Milwaukee owes a '24 pick swap to N.O. and their '25 pick to N.O. or N.Y. Also owe a swap in '26 and a pick in '27. So the first 1st they can offer outright is 2029. No thanks.
 
RR7 said:
Milwaukee owes a '24 pick swap to N.O. and their '25 pick to N.O. or N.Y. Also owe a swap in '26 and a pick in '27. So the first 1st they can offer outright is 2029. No thanks.
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You are correct on the 24 and 25 pick for them. Portis would be a nice pickup on his frugal three year contract and fill PF hole we have.
 
I think the national media gets mad at Toronto for hoarding talent, trying to win some games, and not trading their awesome basketball players to more popular teams. If LeBron had OG & Siakam, the Lakers might make the Finals.
 
STOMP said:
Whats wrong is reading Bleacherreport and thinking it might be right

According to the actual NBA Draft Combine measurements, Dick recorded a max verticle of 34" with a 6'8.75 wingspan. His running/agility times were decent. I bet it will take him a couple years to physically mature and learn how to guard, but his shot could lead to a starting job

STOMP
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Have we resorted to bringing Dick measurements into our arguments here? This is a new low even I wouldn't stoop to...
 
Irish Trader said:
You are correct on the 24 and 25 pick for them. Portis would be a nice pickup on his frugal three year contract and fill PF hole we have.
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I absolutely love Portis and Holiday is good as well. We need to get some picks out of this deal but i like your trade better than any Miami can offer. At the end of the day, the picks we get from Miami will be dog shit anyway and probably traded for players like you mentioned
 
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