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Natebishop3 said:
Actually, I take it back, it annoys the shit out of me when Dviss says "white privilege."

But I wouldn't censor him or delete his post. He's entitled to his opinion.
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I've long since decided to embrace being privileged. It's great to be a straight, white, tall, American male of sound mind and body. That doesn't mean I'm going to look down on anyone who isn't, but I'm certainly not going to feel one iota of guilt that I am.
 
Just a fyi for all. The post i called out a few pages back where someone said "r word" still has not been edited.
 
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I'm pretty sure all the folks touting the freedom of ignorant speech would not use any derogatory terms to greet Damian Lillard or Jeremy Lin or Ed Davis. I'm part of the civil right generation and there's a difference between freedom of speech and ignorance...my son was called Chink by local white kids in 3rd grade and he was offended...so was I....Martin Luther King was an educator. You want to hang onto KKK terms it's ignorant, politics aside. Coming from a largely white fan base here, I'd expect more from humanity. It's wrong...whether you're liberal or conservative. My 2 cents. Fuck racist terminology
 
Personally, I make it a point to be respectful of others where I can. I was taught to be respectful with my parents, family, and friends. Of course, I speak differently with my close friends than I would with my family.

However, this is a forum consisting of many personalities with differing backgrounds and cultures. As a general rule, I try to write content on this forum as if I am speaking to a crowd of people, some I know quite well and many I don't. So, I try to be respectful as I can while being playful at times. But I understand there is a line between communicating within a large community vs. speaking with close friends.
 
JFizzleRaider said:
Just a fyi for all. The post i called out a few pages back where someone said "retarded" still has not been edited.
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Like are you really hanging onto this? I really wonder. I just find it funny, not even trying to argue. Dude, this won't mess your day up I promise. It's a forum. It's not serious
 
Cippy91 said:
Like are you really hanging onto this? I really wonder. I just find it funny, not even trying to argue. Dude, this won't mess your day up I promise. It's a forum. It's not serious
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If I had to wager, I think hes making a point, moreso than really being offended, but I could be wrong...
 
Cippy91 said:
Like are you really hanging onto this? I really wonder. I just find it funny, not even trying to argue. Dude, this won't mess your day up I promise. It's a forum. It's not serious
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My post was edited for something that i was completely in the wrong for, had no ill intent, but understand why it was offensive.

Moving on, i remembered the post that irked me, decided to bring it up this time because those individuals dont have a voice for themselves and i want things consistent, and yes it annoys me it has not been edited.
 
BlazerCaravan said:
There's a line, and frankly, it needs to be crossed until people stop using the words so much. It's annoying to be reminded; it's probably because it's a little embarrassing. Taking criticism is embarrassing, and making the same mistake over and over is embarrassing, and self-worth is a fragile construct.

However, in a written format, we get to choose our words, review them, and edit them BEFORE saying anything. There's simply no excuse for using offensive language in an offensive way unless that was the intent. Getting called out for it might be embarrassing ("annoying"), but it damn well should be because there were many opportunities in the workflow to catch and eliminate that language.
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Pretty sure that you know that I'm pretty careful not to use those kind of terms in my posts. I'd love it if people would always be thoughtful and screen their words before hitting "post". That said, I don't go out of my way to "correct" others when I know that the intent to harm wasn't there. But, as long as it doesn't get in the way of the flow of a thread, if others want to do it, go for it.

I would note, that it's pretty much derailed this thread from its original subject.
 
I rarely ever call anyone out on this, you guys know that! I'm not outraged or in a rage at all... more frustrated and disappointed. Again, it's not the word it's how you use it. I'm going to try and break it down even more...

Good:

The baby came out the vagina, yay!

The lack of water has retarded the growth of the plant.

Bad:

With all that whining, you act like you have a vagina

Your point is so stupid, you must be retarded.

Hope that helps!
 
Spud147 said:
I rarely ever call anyone out on this, you guys know that! I'm not outraged or in a rage at all... more frustrated and disappointed. Again, it's not the word it's how you use it. I'm going to try and break it down even more...

Good:

The baby came out the vagina, yay!

The lack of water has retarded the growth of the plant.

Bad:

With all that whining, you act like you have a vagina

Your point is so stupid, you must be retarded.

Hope that helps!
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You forgot to add, "Guys can be so stupid sometimes." But, I guess we all know that. ;)
 
I call my girlfriend a pussy sometimes, is that bad? I mean, is that offensive to cats or the actual slang to vagina or what? Should I be concerned? Am I a good person guys? Please tell me...I really don't want to offend cats or vaginas
 
e_blazer said:
You forgot to add, "Guys can be so stupid sometimes." But, I guess we all know that. ;)
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You "Guys" really are great... and I didn't mean to derail the whole topic... it was just a shaking my head moment when I saw that the board was in an uproar about racism and how wrong it is but used derogatory terms about women to describe it.

Ironic, don't you think?
 
Spud147 said:
You "Guys" really are great... and I didn't mean to derail the whole topic... it was just a shaking my head moment when I saw that the board was in an uproar about racism and how wrong it is but used derogatory terms about women to describe it.

Ironic, don't you think?
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Point well taken. Sorry I jumped in with the PC comment. This wasn't the right time to make that point.
 
e_blazer said:
Pretty sure that you know that I'm pretty careful not to use those kind of terms in my posts. I'd love it if people would always be thoughtful and screen their words before hitting "post". That said, I don't go out of my way to "correct" others when I know that the intent to harm wasn't there. But, as long as it doesn't get in the way of the flow of a thread, if others want to do it, go for it.
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If you're not offended by it, you have the option not so say anything. Depending on the situation, you might retroactively become associated with people who think the offensive thing is okay or good, but whatever.

People who say something (and on some things I'm one of "those people") have two things going on: 1 - they see the offensive thing, which is in and of itself offensive to them. But they also think "if I say nothing, then it's like I'm saying it's okay to say this offensive thing." And that thought, of consenting through silence, is offensive to them too. So now you have two layers going on. So you say something.

"Hey sorry, but my personal value system is wired to think this thing sucks AND saying nothing about it sucks." Then you get made fun of by people who think you have no right to get offended, AND also are annoying for saying something. Both levels of personal values get insulted in one fell swoop. But you say it again when it comes up again because you have your values, and you can't compromise about this shit.

I would note, that it's pretty much derailed this thread from its original subject.
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Conversations evolve; threads aren't strict debate subjects. And really, talking about what's okay to talk about is generally what Dame's thread was about.
 
BlazerCaravan said:
If you're not offended by it, you have the option not so say anything. Depending on the situation, you might retroactively become associated with people who think the offensive thing is okay or good, but whatever.

People who say something (and on some things I'm one of "those people") have two things going on: 1 - they see the offensive thing, which is in and of itself offensive to them. But they also think "if I say nothing, then it's like I'm saying it's okay to say this offensive thing." And that thought, of consenting through silence, is offensive to them too. So now you have two layers going on. So you say something.

"Hey sorry, but my personal value system is wired to think this thing sucks AND saying nothing about it sucks." Then you get made fun of by people who think you have no right to get offended, AND also are annoying for saying something. Both levels of personal values get insulted in one fell swoop. But you say it again when it comes up again because you have your values, and you can't compromise about this shit.



Conversations evolve; threads aren't strict debate subjects. And really, talking about what's okay to talk about is generally what Dame's thread was about.
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Clearly this is a hot button issue for you. You're one of the good ones, BC, and I would never question your motives on this. We all have to make judgments about when something needs to be said. I let stuff go all the time about God and/or Christian beliefs; most said with no ill intent, but some with direct intent to denigrate people so "stupid" as to believe in God. I let it go, not because it isn't important to me, but because it's not the reason people are posting here. People come here for a Blazer fix and to have fun. When things get away from those purposes, and especially when people intend to hurt others, then something needs to be said. I think Sly and the other mods generally do a good job of policing things around here. Must be like trying to herd cats.
 
e_blazer said:
Clearly this is a hot button issue for you.
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It wasn't always, but the more I talk with friends who are in variously targeted groups, the more I realize this stuff is important to understand.

And like you I normally save this for the OT cesspool, but this thread was an interesting crossover.
 
Cippy91 said:
I call my girlfriend a pussy sometimes, is that bad? I mean, is that offensive to cats or the actual slang to vagina or what? Should I be concerned? Am I a good person guys? Please tell me...I really don't want to offend cats or vaginas
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Actually, it's offensive to willow trees. You animal!!
 
Cippy91 said:
I call my girlfriend a pussy sometimes, is that bad? I mean, is that offensive to cats or the actual slang to vagina or what? Should I be concerned? Am I a good person guys? Please tell me...I really don't want to offend cats or vaginas
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If she's a Bond girl, it's fine
 
e_blazer said:
Clearly this is a hot button issue for you. You're one of the good ones, BC, and I would never question your motives on this. We all have to make judgments about when something needs to be said. I let stuff go all the time about God and/or Christian beliefs; most said with no ill intent, but some with direct intent to denigrate people so "stupid" as to believe in God. I let it go, not because it isn't important to me, but because it's not the reason people are posting here. People come here for a Blazer fix and to have fun. When things get away from those purposes, and especially when people intend to hurt others, then something needs to be said. I think Sly and the other mods generally do a good job of policing things around here. Must be like trying to herd cats.
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BlazerCaravan said:
It wasn't always, but the more I talk with friends who are in variously targeted groups, the more I realize this stuff is important to understand.

And like you I normally save this for the OT cesspool, but this thread was an interesting crossover.
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I want to add that I think this message board and the people who post on it are wonderful and amazingly NOT sexist considering that 99% of the posters are probably male. I wouldn't have continued to post on different boards if I was constantly being offended or felt like I had to be on a soap box all the time.
 
JFizzleRaider said:
Just a fyi for all. The post i called out a few pages back where someone said "r word" still has not been edited.
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1. Sorry, I had some things to take care of and didn't edit the post before I left.

2. You have mod powers, you could have edited it.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
1. Sorry, I had some things to take care of and didn't edit the post before I left.

2. You have mod powers, you could have edited it.
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I dont edit the blazers forum because im not a blazers mod. And generally dont want to step on your toes.

And i wasnt necessarily talking about your post (but thanks) i was talking about post 6 of the side rant topic in the OT forum i pointed at the very start of this thread after my "vagina" comment was edited
 
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JFizzleRaider said:
If we are gonna edit "vagina" can we go ahead and edit when people use the word "retard or retarded?"

http://www.sportstwo.com/threads/side-rant.302524/

Post 6, derogatory towards mentally handicap.

Wheres the outrage for those individuals when those words are used?
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Seriously? It's essentially the same as stupid, idiot, etc. at this point. Should we ban those words too? You can think I'm an asshole for saying it and get offended all you want, but trying to say people shouldn't be allowed to use those words is pretty ridiculous.
 
VanillaGorilla said:
Seriously? It's essentially the same as stupid, idiot, etc. at this point. Should we ban those words too? You can think I'm an asshole for saying it and get offended all you want, but trying to say people shouldn't be allowed to use those words is pretty ridiculous.
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Notice that i did not call you out for it yesterday? I went on with my life, even though it offended me.

Then, when i was edited and called out for something i have no issues with them editing, i felt like it should be brought up too. If a social justice warrior wants to call something out, be consistent and speak up especially for those that cant usually speak up for themselves.

Just want them to be consistent.
 
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