Were Waters or Obama using hateful rhetoric? How does the the things they have said compare with the length Trump has gone?
Oh yes, Maxine in particular has been quite a piece of work. Obama was just arrogant and condescending, but Maxine is a nut.
It is certainly a conversation to be had.
Another time I'm afraid. I forget how exhausting this shit is. I remember why I stopped coming to the OT a while back.
Public officials, especially those in the highest level of office can provoke a deep influence and hold a responsibility to the things they say and what those comments cause.
My personal opinion: I think it has far more to do with social media and the MSM than it does with anything a politician has said. The internet has changed dramatically just within the past 10 years, and it has caused problems we can't even begin to fathom. It has given a platform for all kinds of crazy ideologies. I wouldn't be surprised if there is a facebook account for head hunters for a Sun God or something.
Was the Dayton asshat a Trump guy?
So it sounds like there is just no reasoning with you, period. Any mass shooter is going to be a "Trump guy".
Then I'm gonna stop banging my head into this wall before it becomes bloody.
Even though I have been kicked out of the republican party by
@MarAzul I still identify as a conservative. It pisses me off that white supremacists feel they have found a home and a voice in the republican party.
It doesn't really matter what liberals say about that, it'a up to conservatives to get rid of these fucks. Too often in political discourse the argument is well this party may have a problem but the other party has this problem. It's deflection and not taking responsibility.
Everyone needs to hold the political party they support to a higher standard instead of settling for maybe being slightly better than the other one.
I agree with this to a point; and that point being the very obvious fact that BOTH sides have extremists. The FBI is actually considering ANTIFA as a violent extremist group....they are anything but Conservative or Right-leaning. But does that mean that the Democratic Party is responsible for them?
No?
Okay......then why are Conservatives or Republicans responsible for White Supremacists? Why do we need to run around apologizing for them?
They are BOTH fringes of their respective sides. I do, however, think that both sides could do a better job at pushing them away. The amount of times I've wanted to reach through a screen and smack a supposed Conservative for talking white supremacist propaganda, or spouting off some conspiracy about something, is endless. Hell, I wanted to do it just today on a gun forum! And I already got some white supremacist kicked off of that same forum for his racist rhetoric.
But I don't blame gun owners for that guy's behavior because he signed on to a gun forum. I blame his ignorance, and I hold HIM responsible for it.
I don't think either side should be taking responsibility for the fringe elements within. I do, however, think both sides should do a better job of isolating them and condemning them.
But blaming a politician for something a mass murderer did? Sorry, that's going too far. I've never heard Trump once call for killing anyone illegally.
Enjoy your yard work, and remember to stay hydrated!!!
I LOVE YOU TOO SLY!
