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illmatic99 said:
https://www.oregonlive.com/blazers/...d-will-be-with-trail-blazers-next-season.html

But none move the needle in the direction Lillard had hoped. The Blazers for decades have struggled to land marquee free agents or major stars in trades. Portland made efforts to seek a major trade this summer, but to no avail. Lillard has talked to players about coming to Portland, but those efforts have not produced results.
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The question is and obviously we don't have the answer for it, what efforts were made? Have we figured out that we're probably going to need to overpay a little in a trade to get an all star level player? That we'll probably have to trade CJ and a package of draft assets like Milwaukee was willing to. Is Olshey really going all in to try and get this team to the next level or is he worried about making sure no one gets over on him?

Just a hunch but I would bet the "efforts to seek a major trade" were on the conservative side, since Olshey has never done anything remotely splashy in his ten fucking years here. Maybe I'll be eating my words and obviously this article was written with a limited perspective. If Morey realizes Dame is off the table and he still has to trade Ben maybe Olshey has been waiting this thing out and he'll get a deal done. We'll have to wait and see. For right now I'm extremely frustrated that we're still having to trust a guy in Olshey that has never really done anything besides shuffle the deck and has also proven himself to be a condescending liar.
 
Ripcity4life77 said:
What is NeO supposed to do when there looks to be NO trades out there that make sense to make or that are out there in general -- is he supposed to pull a trade out of his ass or something and the same goes for FA's left. I mean really only Millsap and who else and maybe he is asking too much atm Full Mid lvl aka 9m range or maybe Portland wants to see what it has from Summer league guys or just see what plays out and then around training camp sign someone there is just SO many reasons.

I understand fans are worried Dame is going to say screw this and demands a trade at some point and that would be a disaster but everyone just assumes NeO is sitting in his office jerking off to porn and doing nothing and I kind of doubt this is the case. Would i love to see the Blazers make a move ? --- YES but I do not want them to make a move just for making a moves sake like some of you seem to want cause your impatient and/or worried about the future with Dame. The Blazers offseason has not been as bad as some media IDIOTS aka B-Edge thinks now it has not been great but if i was to give them a grade to this point NOT factoring in the Dame thing hanging over the team's head it would be a B to B minus cause I will agree having a tool in FA and not using it makes the team look a little cheap but like I said that could change but for right now it is a wasted tool that prolly should be used. I would advice use more patience even though i will admit it can be tough at times knowing what next summer might hold but what else can we do cause whining and bitching at NeO is not going to get a deal done and quicker will it ? -- NOPE so enjoy the rest of the offseason and maybe when you least expect it it something with happen.
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Neil is where he is because of things he has or has not done. So if there is no deal now because he refused to move CJ back when he had more potential and a much lower contract and now his hands are tied, that is on him. If his player he handed out so much money to for max year deals back in 2016 were basically worthless and he couldn't use them as assets, that is also on him.
 
When are we getting Greg browns contract details?
 
B-Roy said:
Greg Brown is on a 3 year deal. So that means we only have about 5 million left of our MLE.
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2 and an option? 3rd year not guaranteed.
 
So Olshey was trying to get Oubre or Batum but they both declined… lol what a poverty organization we have. smh
 
tykendo said:
Do we really know what's going on behind closed doors? Y'all act like they are pounding the pudd right now. Maybe they're in talks with many teams, but want to make the right deal. Plus it takes two to Tango. We've become such a gratification right now society . Patience. There are moves to be made, and quality players out there still. I enjoy target shooting, but had to sell my gun to make ends meet in 2019. Doing better now, but will wait to buy a replacement when i have the money saved up to do so. I'm not going to go against my plan. It takes patience.
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Fast forward to next offseason: patience. It's only been a year since he said those things. Just because Dame has said he wants out cause Neil didn't do anything all year doesn't mean that tomorrow he isn't.

It's not about having patience... its about knowing that Neil is a fucking idiot and knowing he isn't gonna do shit because if he was smart he'd of done it already.

Anyone defending Neil hasn't been awake in 9 years. Learn the pattern.
 
illmatic99 said:
https://www.oregonlive.com/blazers/...d-will-be-with-trail-blazers-next-season.html

Lillard has talked to players about coming to Portland, but those efforts have not produced results.
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Tell me what star player wants to be traded to a team where the #1 guy has gone on record asking for immediate improvements or he’s going to bounce? If you’re a star, and you have a few years left on your contract, is that a team you want to be traded to? Lillard is partially responsible for the Blazers current inability to land a second star because all this trade speculation is probably making the franchise look “unstable”, from the ownership to the front office to the superstar player.

What a clusterfuck NeO has created by hanging onto this core and the former coach for so long. I, personally, don’t see this situation ending well for the Blazers. I fully expect a rebuild to commence in the next 12 months. I sincerely hope I’m wrong though.
 
brooklynballer said:
I, personally, don’t see this situation ending well for the Blazers. I fully expect a rebuild to commence in the next 12 months. I sincerely hope I’m wrong though.
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Outside of losing a great player, would that necessarily be a bad thing though? As much as I love Lillard, the team will always be more important than any one player. I’d rather blow it up than be stuck in a never ending purgatory where you’re good enough to make the playoffs, but not good enough to actually contend, and not in a position to add elite talent in the draft. And if it came to blowing it up, surely Olshey would be gone and a new regime brought in.

Idk, not the worst scenario. Olshey would never recover from it and would probably have to go back to acting lmao.
 
Can’t believe the Blazers are not on this list. We Got better with Zeller
 
Scalma said:
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I know he struggles with the 3 ball offensively but I can't remember his D on the perimeter. I assume he can't guard small ball forwards but at least he has the size to match up against LBJ and AD. (Huge wingspan) But again I just can't remember his lateral quickness....is it at least average for his size? He would not get a ton of minutes but if he came cheap I would not be unhappy having him on our bench. He will be 26 this month. We need a PF who can bang even if there are not a ton of opposing PF's who actually post up.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
I know he struggles with the 3 ball offensively but I can't remember his D on the perimeter. I assume he can't guard small ball forwards but at least he has the size to match up against LBJ and AD. (Huge wingspan) But again I just can't remember his lateral quickness....is it at least average for his size? He would not get a ton of minutes but if he came cheap I would not be unhappy having him on our bench. He will be 26 this month. We need a PF who can bang even if there are not a ton of opposing PF's who actually post up.
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he's not an NBA player.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
The year he started for the Knicks he shot 53% on 2PA and grabbed almost 8 boards a game in just 25 minutes ....yet he is not an NBA player?
I am not talking about starting the guy, just filling a need.
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you mean the knicks that won 17 games?

he played for three teams and got traded once and waived twice afterward. Averaged 4.3 minutes and 2.8 minutes per game respectively for two playoff teams. Famously had a -19 PER in 11 minutes played in BKN ( i didn't think that was possible).

he's not an NBA caliber player. Would he even be our 10th man? We need guys who can be in a playoff rotation and he's not close. There are far better players on the FA market to fill that same role, and wouldn't be glued to the bench come playoff time.
 
RipCityProject posts quite a bit on recommended trades/moves that I don't buy, but this one I like ... because I agree with it and have wanted both players a while. 2 out of 3 -- Larry Nance Jr. and Daniel Theis. Slow-mo is sort of amazing in that he finds a way to make his mark on the court. Cozens does low-ball offers from the Blazers side of it, but the end result is good.

https://ripcityproject.com/2021/08/15/portland-trail-blazers-nba-news-43/
 
illmatic99 said:
you mean the knicks that won 17 games?

he played for three teams and got traded once and waived twice afterward. Averaged 4.3 minutes and 2.8 minutes per game respectively for two playoff teams. Famously had a -19 PER in 11 minutes played in BKN ( i didn't think that was possible).

he's not an NBA caliber player. Would he even be our 10th man? We need guys who can be in a playoff rotation and he's not close. There are far better players on the FA market to fill that same role, and wouldn't be glued to the bench come playoff time.
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No, he wouldn't be our 10th man because we only would need him against a few teams that have a strong physical PF. There are not many, but we still need someone on the bench that fills that role. Sure someone like Millsap could fill that role, but will he sign for cheap?
 
Pinwheel1 said:
No, he wouldn't be our 10th man because we only would need him against a few teams that have a strong physical PF. There are not many, but we still need someone on the bench that fills that role. Sure someone like Millsap could fill that role, but will he sign for cheap?
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id rather wait and see who else we can find instead of wasting a roster spot on Vonleh. We already did that with Snell/McLemore who both won't sniff playoff PT.

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/free-agents/ufa/available/
 
illmatic99 said:
id rather wait and see who else we can find instead of wasting a roster spot on Vonleh. We already did that with Snell/McLemore who both won't sniff playoff PT.
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Fair enough. Sometimes plays get cut late in fall camp.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
Fair enough. Sometimes plays get cut late in fall camp.
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yup, well known story of Joe Ingles ending up in Utah after Doc cut him from the Clips' training camp for example.

But even guys like Redick/Ed Davis/Bradley/Matthews/Boogie I would consider as potential vets who can serviceably play 10-15 mpg in the playoffs while also providing intangibles like locker room support.

If we want the upside route, I'd roll the dice on Exum/Ntilikina/Smith Jr.

To me, Millsap is the number 1 target right now as he checks a lot of these boxes:

- Big who can swing to 4/5
- Can rebound/defend and space the floor
- Can play 15 mpg without any issues
- Veteran presence (Dame is currently our oldest and most experienced player at 31).

If we can't convince him to take the minimum, I think I'd be OK with throwing what's left of our MLE at him.
 
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