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Scalma -- May I ask why you would have been heated cause Brooks has shown himself to be a good scorer at times but have not paid attention to his D outside his time as a Duck since I do not watch Griz games but I am curious. I would be open to bringing him in and just looked at his stats and he averaged almost a steal a game for his career and he is 6'7 so he is not short like most of the other SG/SF on this roster.
 
Ripcity4life77 said:
Scalma -- May I ask why you would have been heated cause Brooks has shown himself to be a good scorer at times but have not paid attention to his D outside his time as a Duck since I do not watch Griz games but I am curious. I would be open to bringing him in and just looked at his stats and he averaged almost a steal a game for his career and he is 6'7 so he is not short like most of the other SG/SF on this roster.
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I don’t think he’s worth a first round pick. He graded out as a negative on both ends of the court. He’s inefficient offensively. His WS/48 would’ve put him ahead of only Elleby last season (for the record McLemore and Snell were also both superior in both that category and VORP)

Would’ve been a terrible move. Just my opinion tho
 
Scalma said:
I don’t think he’s worth a first round pick. He graded out as a negative on both ends of the court. He’s inefficient offensively. His WS/48 would’ve put him ahead of only Elleby last season (for the record McLemore and Snell were also both superior in both that category and VORP)

Would’ve been a terrible move. Just my opinion tho
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Plus he's a hot head, and i truly doubt he would be happy coming off the bench.
 
tykendo said:
Plus he's a hot head, and i truly doubt he would be happy coming off the bench.
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yeah and he also would’ve just been another guy that might’ve taken minutes away from Nas. I’m all aboard the get Nas minutes train so everyone else can get out of the way.
 
Lakers sign Rondo to 2.6 mil. contract. NBA allowing Lakers to bitch slap cap again. The CAP is a total scam.
 
There is not much left out there on the FA market outside of Milsap and after Nance trade he makes no sense so IF the Blazers go out and sign someone I believe they need to have some size 6'8 and above and play D and be happy with spot minutes so this is who I think the Blazers should look at :

Bismack Biyombo -- He can rebound and play some D -- not a great scorer but would be solid for spot minutes

Luke Kornet -- Looked at his stats and not a sexy player he does the little things or big things for this team -- rebound - decent shot blocker and over 7 foot -- but for a 3rd stringer would be a good insurance policy in case Z or Nurk get injured.
 
Ripcity4life77 said:
Scalma -- May I ask why you would have been heated cause Brooks has shown himself to be a good scorer at times but have not paid attention to his D outside his time as a Duck since I do not watch Griz games but I am curious. I would be open to bringing him in and just looked at his stats and he averaged almost a steal a game for his career and he is 6'7 so he is not short like most of the other SG/SF on this roster.
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I am a big Brooks fan from his Oregon days. But I would not give up a first for him either.

Having said that he is a huge part of the Grizz success, his teammates love his hustle and his passion. Fans love him for the same reason. He plays tough D but fouls a lot. He is one of those players that irritates the shit out of opponents and their fans. Not quite on the Beverly level, but close. He is not a great shooter but will hit some clutch shots. He is that junkyard-type player that all teams need, but he is not starter material IMO. He will eventually accept a role coming off the bench but may need an adjustment period to do so.
 
tykendo said:
Lakers sign Rondo to 2.6 mil. contract. NBA allowing Lakers to bitch slap cap again. The CAP is a total scam.
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That's not a cap problem. He took the minimum. Other teams could have offered him more money. Players can decide where they want to go. Money obviously isn't the motivating factor for him anymore.
 
SlyPokerCat said:
That's not a cap problem. He took the minimum. Other teams could have offered him more money. Players can decide where they want to go. Money obviously isn't the motivating factor for him anymore.
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But it is a Cap problem. The Luxury tax is only a penalty to small market teams. Is going over the cap, and the only true punishment is paying tax for doing so, not involving the Cap?
 
tykendo said:
Luxury Tax is only a deterrent to small market teams PERIOD!
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Some of these tax numbers this season are insane. (LA would jump to like 55 mil after the Rondo signing-- in effect, that's like a 20 million added cost just to get Rondo). $184 mil just in tax for GS is nuts.
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Given the profit sharing agreements, I can see why certain teams would jump below that threshold.
 

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tykendo said:
But it is a Cap problem. The Luxury tax is only a penalty to small market teams. Is going over the cap, and the only true punishment is paying tax for doing so, not involving the Cap?
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So you want to penalize team arbitrarily? Just because they have a certain population or media market? Those stats aren't the end all be all.

Not a cap problem because players can choose where they want to go if they take the minimum. The other teams could have offered Rondo more but he chose to go to a team with less money. The Lakers are a contender. He played on the team before.
 
tykendo said:
But it is a Cap problem. The Luxury tax is only a penalty to small market teams. Is going over the cap, and the only true punishment is paying tax for doing so, not involving the Cap?
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SlyPokerCat said:
So you want to penalize team arbitrarily? Just because they have a certain population or media market? Those stats aren't the end all be all.

Not a cap problem because players can choose where they want to go if they take the minimum. The other teams could have offered Rondo more but he chose to go to a team with less money. The Lakers are a contender. He played on the team before.
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That's why a hard cap like the NFL has is best. The NBA's cap allow the Mega Markets an unfair advantage. The Luxury Tax is not a deterrent for those markets, at all.
 
I don't care that all these guys signed for the minimum. The Lakers are so far over the cap, they might as well have given him top dollar.
 
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SlyPokerCat said:
So you want to penalize team arbitrarily? Just because they have a certain population or media market? Those stats aren't the end all be all.

Not a cap problem because players can choose where they want to go if they take the minimum. The other teams could have offered Rondo more but he chose to go to a team with less money. The Lakers are a contender. He played on the team before.
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They are the outlier .
 
tykendo said:
I don't care that all these guys signed for the minimum. The Lakers are so far over the cap, they might as well have given him top dollar.
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Their not allowed to... despite it being a soft cap there are still rules.
 
tykendo said:
That's why a hard cap like the NFL has is best. The NBA's cap allow the Mega Markets an unfair advantage. The Luxury Tax is not a deterrent for those markets, at all.
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Good luck getting the players union to agree to non guaranteed contracts and the removal of minimum contracts so vet guys go without jobs for a bunch of garbage 2nd rounders and undrafteds worse than they do now.

Never. Gonna. Happen.
 
SlyPokerCat said:
Good luck getting the players union to agree to non guaranteed contracts and the removal of minimum contracts so vet guys go without jobs for a bunch of garbage 2nd rounders and undrafteds worse than they do now.

Never. Gonna. Happen.
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That is absolutely true. But it's way easier for teams like Green Bay (ridiculously small market) ,& Denver (midsize market), to dominate in any given year, than the NBA.
 
tykendo said:
That is absolutely true. But it's way easier for teams like Green Bay (ridiculously small market) ,& Denver (midsize market), to dominate in any given year, than the NBA.
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It is true. NFL has the opportunity for more parity. But their players get screwed for that. Sad when it is a sport that makes guys brains into mush and is a lot harder on them as they age than basketball is.
 
SlyPokerCat said:
It is true. NFL has the opportunity for more parity. But their players get screwed for that. Sad when it is a sport that makes guys brains into mush and is a lot harder on them as they age than basketball is.
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NFL has a license to print money, so there is no reason Players shouldn't get Medical Coverage Paid for the rest of their lives. Past or Present.
 
illmatic99 said:
Either him or Exum... this has become quite predictable.
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Ntilikina is a better playmaker and defender so he’s probably the better fit. But I don’t really care anymore who they sign for that last spot tbh.
 
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