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Is Joe Cronin a good GM?

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I think that what Cronin does now, at this point where he's essentially built a .500, play-in level team, will reveal whether he is a good or mediocre GM. He and his staff have done a solid job of evaluating talent and have assembled a team that can grow into a yearly playoff team, but it seems to lack the punch that is needed to contend. I'm hoping for a major move this next week, but if not then, certainly over the summer. I think that this question also needs to be expanded to consider whether Tom Dundon and the new ownership group are going to have the fire and vision to make a push for contention. Jodi Allen and the Vulcans have been complacently okay with mediocrity.
 
JfizzleBlazer said:
The difference is we don't have an alpha. Giannis is still only 30. Those guys you mentioned were in their late 30s. Giannis has shown no slowing down this year, and I don't think it is ridiculous to think father time doesn't show up next year. Or the year after.

You didn't post here 20 years ago when people like Maris would say "bake the cake" so often that so many folks adopted that and we ended up doing nothing.

There is always a balance of the different ideologies of building a team. But one thing is for sure, you need a superstar to win (other than Detroit, who is an outlier. However, deni and holiday are really the only guys that match up to good players on the Pistons at that time).
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Scoot hasn't played at all this season, and we have to wait until next season for Damian Lillard.

Now would be a terrible time to make a trade of anything besides a small move to bring in more 3-point shooting.

Giannis is a very good player, but he has a huge hole in today's NBA, and is set to make $58 million next season.
 
I say Joe is a good GM...I can't compare GMs from the Trader Bob era because they had a blank check and no salary cap problems. You used to be able to just buy a team and now you really can't do that anymore.
 
Trader Bob was easily my favorite. I think Cronin has done a great job, while not perfect he’s had some misses like agrants contract and maybe the Scoot draft( big maybe).
 
1 Eye Jack said:
Trader Bob was easily my favorite. I think Cronin has done a great job, while not perfect he’s had some misses like agrants contract and maybe the Scoot draft( big maybe).
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The Scoot draft isn't really on him. Scoot was pretty much widely considered a top 2 or 3 pick.

And all the Amen truthers out there should check out the Rockets forums. They're not as thrilled with Thompson this year. The league finally figured out he can't shoot a lick and they're defending him like a center.
 
blazerfan11 said:
Scoot hasn't played at all this season, and we have to wait until next season for Damian Lillard.

Now would be a terrible time to make a trade of anything besides a small move to bring in more 3-point shooting.

Giannis is a very good player, but he has a huge hole in today's NBA, and is set to make $58 million next season.
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What huge hole? He’s the second best player in the league. 65% from the field, 40% from 3.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Exactly. People gloss over the fact that Bob got to operate with a blank check and almost no rules. They didn't have the insanely punitive CBA that we have today.
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Bob was able to get guys like Jimmy Jackson to sign as our backup. Detlef Schrempf is another. They had quality starting offers from other teams. I don't know how he did it but we were a legit free agent destination back then. It was far more than just SPAM. Of course the money helped but he made tons of great moves even without just paying extra cash.
 
I suspect Dunden will keep Cronin around for a bit. It will be interesting to see if there are changes in moves or strategy.

Often when I criticized "Cronin" it was shorthand for criticizing the Blazers management group of Jody/Vulcan/Kolde/Cronin of which Cronin was the primary figurehead. Its a totally different regime now and especially once the sale is finalized. I really have no idea what moves Cronin wanted to pull off but was overruled by someone else or the reverse that the Blazers executed and Cronin was against.

In fact many of the Blazers moves can only really be explained by an internal tug of war with Blazers management. One day we're sending out vets in the Clippers trade with nothing coming back but salary savings. Then were blowing salary space on ridiculous similar useless starters in Nurk/Simons/Ayton. Then were sending out picks to bring in Grant. Then were sending out starters like Hart for picks. Then were adding picks for Jrue. Then we're sending out picks for Deni. There never seemed to be a cohesive vision or common strategy to where all the various moves made sense together. It was as if different people took turns making trades or signings. The teams strategy completely changed every 4 months.

Very excited for the sale to get finalized.
 
JfizzleBlazer said:
Which we already know some of that credit needs to go to schmitz
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That doesn't take away from Cronin credit - instead both guys get credit.

Cronin gets credit for assembling a management team with Schmitz and listening to him when making moves. Yes Schmitz gets credit too.

Otherwise its like saying the coach doesn't get credit for his team scoring since the players are the ones who directly scored.
 
SharpesTriumph said:
That doesn't take away from Cronin credit - instead both guys get credit.

Cronin gets credit for assembling a management team with Schmitz and listening to him when making moves. Yes Schmitz gets credit too.

Otherwise its like saying the coach doesn't get credit for his team scoring since the players are the ones who directly scored.
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I don't disagree. As long as Cronin doesn't take all the credit. If he goes the Neil route i'd be ready to give him minimal credit.
 
Cugel said:
His claim to fame will be Deni, unless he walks.
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The Dame trade was well executed.

The Deni trade was a home run.

The CJ trade was okay.

The worst trade was the Norm move to LAC but I still have doubts that he really had much say in that. Signing GP2weeks was a bungle but he corrected it quickly.

There are far worse GMs to me.
 
SharpesTriumph said:
Bob was able to get guys like Jimmy Jackson to sign as our backup. Detlef Schrempf is another. They had quality starting offers from other teams. I don't know how he did it but we were a legit free agent destination back then. It was far more than just SPAM. Of course the money helped but he made tons of great moves even without just paying extra cash.
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I’m not so sure. Having a blank check on everything including their own private jet was quite the attraction.
 
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