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If you can get him while keeping Dame + Nurk, I don’t see how this is even debatable.

This is when you push all your chips in.

Im not the biggest Harden fan... but he helps solve almost all of our major issues.

he gets easy baskets (free throws)
He opens up the floor for Dame
Dame opens the floor for him as well
We have someone that can be an effective second ball handler and playmaker
Better on D and O than CJ

and if Stotts can pull his head out of his ass, u can actually play Dame off the ball more like Steph


And Nurk in the pnr with either is deadly
 
OneSport3 said:
Would much rather watch free throws going in the hoop as points than watch CJ jack up inefficient mid-range jumpers all night.
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The thing is harden actually gets calls for some reason. Beard?
 
KSF-ERIC said:
If CP3/Harden can get 3-2 lead on peak Warriors (one of the best teams of all time) in the WCF, then Dame/Harden can win it all. Trap Dame and Harden dominates and vice/versa. Harden is one of the Top 5 SGs of all time. Lakers only beat Rockets because they could leave Westbrook open. Let’s see them leave Dame open.
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I agree with this 100%. Just look at what the Jazz did to dame last game. They cannot even try to do that with Harden on the court.
 
calvin natt said:
Just to recap:
We need someone to take the load off Lillard and can handle the ball
We need scoring
Stars never want to come here
We need more playmakers
CJ needs to go
Harden may or may not want to come here and...people don’t want him.

got it
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This is classic S2
 
LayneStaley said:
Yeah I don’t give a fuck if he lives in a strip club, stars win titles, they are more important in the NBA than any other sport. It would solve the trapping Dame shit and I’d rather take a chance on Harden than pay CJ 100 mil over the next 3 seasons.
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I hear we have a drive through strip club here.
 
riverman said:
My impression is more that Harden wants to play with Kyrie and KD but would settle with playing with Dame...we're like choice number 4 in his bucket list so I don't think he's made us a priority.
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Bro i agree with ya most of the time but I have to say if you can get a player like Harden you simply have to try to do it. He makes the team better on the court. Off the court i have to trust the organization and the fans to hold players accountable. We have not had that problem certainly since Olshey, Stotts and Lillard have been around.
There is another concept also. Harden comes here and lets say doesn't work. They end up with his expiring contract and he becomes a huge asset on the books. If he comes here and it does work the Blazers become contenders. I say contenders because every team needs a bit of luck to get to the Conference Finals and beyond.
 
No way they'd take CJ, Zach and filler. At the very least they will want Nurk along with CJ.
Other teams in the east could offer more uless we involve Dame which we wont.
 
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riverman said:
I'm not convinced Harden means championship...he can go get the scoring title every year though
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The question is does this give us a better chance at a championship? I believe it does. We’d have enough offense and we’ve improved our defense enough we’d be a title contender.
 
For CJ and Zach and scraps yes.
For CJ and Trent and scraps, yes but I’d feel a bit sick about it.
For CJ, Trent, and Zach I don’t think so.
For CJ and Nurk, no way.

Yes Harden is historic offensively, but he’s 31 and hugely duplicates Dame. There’s only one ball on offense. On defense it will seem like there are two balls... well yes it already seems like that.
 
Orion Bailey said:
Window dressing.
But id trade cj/Kanter and one of trent or collins with picks.

never gonna happen though. Simply political leverage. Nothing more. He will end up in a big market.
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What does harden gain by adding a team he doesn't want to go to? He wouldn't want his future team to have to give up more.
 
Blazers fans always crying about how stars never wanna come to Portland. So naturally when one actually does, they don’t want him. Hah!

Seriously, when was the last time a superstar, in his prime, was like “yeah I’d go to Portland.” ? ?
 
We don't even know if houston would trade to us. But not trading anything but dame would be like the Barkley deal we turned down.
 
It’s interesting we are the only western conference team on his list(so far). I would think that would make us the last team on that list Hou would want to deal him to.
 
I think the only way Houston would consider Portland’s theoretical offer would be if Toronto didn’t wanna give up Siakam, Boston didn’t wanna give up Brown, and Philly didn’t wanna give up Simmons.

I don’t think Harden will end up somewhere he doesn’t wanna be. We see how toxic he is when he doesn’t get what he wants. You’d have to have a real good foundation (CULTURE) to take him on. He’s actually tanking his own value. That said, he’s still an elite player and I feel the blazers have the right environment to take him on.
 
Remember about a week ago when woj said this?

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Several playoff-caliber teams in the Eastern and Western conferences have told ESPN that they are finding increased comfort in committing high-level trade assets in talks to acquire Harden. The Rockets have ongoing discussions on several fronts and have been communicating with Harden about those scenarios, sources said.

Several teams told ESPN that they are feeling less inhibited about trading for Harden without an assurance that he would re-sign once he can become a free agent in two years.
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What if Portland is one of those teams? Woj would never outright mention them, but the clues are there. I remember last year he hinted at a specific type of team trading for Whiteside and Portland checked all the boxes he was talking about. Then a week or so later he was a blazer.
 
Scalma said:
I think the only way Houston would consider Portland’s theoretical offer would be if Toronto didn’t wanna give up Siakam, Boston didn’t wanna give up Brown, and Philly didn’t wanna give up Simmons.

I don’t think Harden will end up somewhere he doesn’t wanna be. We see how toxic he is when he doesn’t get what he wants. You’d have to have a real good foundation (CULTURE) to take him on. He’s actually tanking his own value. That said, he’s still an elite player and I feel the blazers have the right environment to take him on.
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They've already turned down Simmons... they wanted draft considerations with him, they want the same with Brown (which doesn't make a lot of sense for Ainge to do given age and current chemistry), I doubt Siakam is even good enough by himself so again the Rockets will be asking too much.

I just don't think anyone is going to give up a package that's better than CJ, Nurk and as many picks as we can throw at them. I personally would do that deal, see how it works out and if it doesn't get one of those players that Houston won't take without draft considerations but we would or a package like Brooklyn is offering.
 
blazerkor said:
They've already turned down Simmons... they wanted draft considerations with him, they want the same with Brown (which doesn't make a lot of sense for Ainge to do given age and current chemistry), I doubt Siakam is even good enough by himself so again the Rockets will be asking too much.

I just don't think anyone is going to give up a package that's better than CJ, Nurk and as many picks as we can throw at them. I personally would do that deal, see how it works out and if it doesn't get one of those players that Houston won't take without draft considerations but we would or a package like Brooklyn is offering.
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I just can’t see Houston turning down Simmons. They’re not gonna get anyone better than that. Ainge is notoriously stingy when it comes to his own players. Siakam is a stud, I can’t see Houston turning him down either.

There’s a reason behind Harden expanding his list imo. Not sure if it’s more about the other teams on his list hesitating, or a team like Portland showing a willingness to do business, but we’ll see.
 
blazerkor said:
They've already turned down Simmons... they wanted draft considerations with him, they want the same with Brown (which doesn't make a lot of sense for Ainge to do given age and current chemistry), I doubt Siakam is even good enough by himself so again the Rockets will be asking too much.

I just don't think anyone is going to give up a package that's better than CJ, Nurk and as many picks as we can throw at them. I personally would do that deal, see how it works out and if it doesn't get one of those players that Houston won't take without draft considerations but we would or a package like Brooklyn is offering.
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They would require Nurk along with CJ imo. Couple Nurk with Wood & Tucker and you have a solid front court.
CJ & Gordon would be potent.
Houston gets way better not sure about Portland?
 
Scalma said:
I just can’t see Houston turning down Simmons. They’re not gonna get anyone better than that. Ainge is notoriously stingy when it comes to his own players. Siakam is a stud, I can’t see Houston turning him down either.

There’s a reason behind Harden expanding his list imo. Not sure if it’s more about the other teams on his list hesitating, or a team like Portland showing a willingness to do business, but we’ll see.
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I'm telling you that I've read multiple reports that even though these guy are good/great that Houston is demanding first rounders with any talent they are getting in return for Harden unless that talent has already shown MVP ability like Harden. It's like their new GM doesn't even recognize that Harden has lowered his value by demanding a trade and then backing up that demand by being petulant.
 
Hoopguru said:
They would require Nurk along with CJ imo. Couple Nurk with Wood & Tucker and you have a solid front court.
CJ & Gordon would be potent.
Houston gets way better not sure about Portland?
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I think you're right... I think they would also demand picks... and I would do it. I don't like Harden but Stotts and Dame can change attitudes around like no one else and many in here have made me aware that Olshey has a very long and good relationship with Harden which might make him open to change as well. Also we are in win now mode and Harden either gets us closer to those wins or gives us a huge trade piece that will net us one of the win now guys or packages that Houston is currently demanding picks with and we wouldn't.
 
Hoopguru said:
No way they'd take CJ, Zach and filler. At the very least they will want Nurk along with CJ.
Other teams in the east could offer more uless we involve Dame which we wont.
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Not sure who is offering more than Nurk/CJ (which as much as I want CJ gone, wouldn't include Nurkic).

CJ is one of the better creative scoring players in the league. His defense is another thing, but that applies to Harden as well. As for including Nurk, what other team could throw in a 'big' of that caliber? Not many, and certainly very few combined with CJ's scoring ability.

I'm no fan of Harden, but if you can do this and keep Dame/Nurk, you do it....plain and simple. I'd like to keep Zach and would hate to part with Trent, but would likely have to include one or the other. Any way Kanter and Melo can be included? (fingers crossed)
 
Houston would need to trade Eric Gordon or flip CJ somewhere else. I can't see having both.
I do see where Nurk and Christian Wood might work well together. (Maybe Collins and Wood would be a nice duo as well)
Seems like they could use a young SF as well.
 
blazerkor said:
I really really think that Houston won't go for anything less than CJ, Nurk and a pick or picks. I just don't see how CJ, Zach, Gary and whoever else adds up to as much as they've been offered by other teams... especially that Brooklyn offer. I do think CJ, Nurk and draft incentives might get the job done if we'd want to do that. We might have a bit of a hole at the 5 but Kanter can play there and then Zach can try to win that job from him when he's healthy. That said, Dame, Harden, DJJ, RoCo, Enes, Gary, Zach, Hoodie isn't as deep of a rotation as we have right now but it might get the job done a lot better.
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If they trade CJ and Nurk for Harden then it's telling me that olshey saying that Zach is our future center. But I don't see olshey trading Nurk or Zach in any trade deal.
 
Scalma said:
I just can’t see Houston turning down Simmons. They’re not gonna get anyone better than that. Ainge is notoriously stingy when it comes to his own players. Siakam is a stud, I can’t see Houston turning him down either.

There’s a reason behind Harden expanding his list imo. Not sure if it’s more about the other teams on his list hesitating, or a team like Portland showing a willingness to do business, but we’ll see.
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Philly already said that wouldn't put simmons in any trade deal so probably put philly out of the running.
 
TBpup said:
Not sure who is offering more than Nurk/CJ (which as much as I want CJ gone, wouldn't include Nurkic).

CJ is one of the better creative scoring players in the league. His defense is another thing, but that applies to Harden as well. As for including Nurk, what other team could throw in a 'big' of that caliber? Not many, and certainly very few combined with CJ's scoring ability.

I'm no fan of Harden, but if you can do this and keep Dame/Nurk, you do it....plain and simple. I'd like to keep Zach and would hate to part with Trent, but would likely have to include one or the other. Any way Kanter and Melo can be included? (fingers crossed)
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I have to think Melo, and maybe RoCo, being here is part of the reason Harden added Portland to his list of acceptable destinations.
 
TBpup said:
Not sure who is offering more than Nurk/CJ (which as much as I want CJ gone, wouldn't include Nurkic).

CJ is one of the better creative scoring players in the league. His defense is another thing, but that applies to Harden as well. As for including Nurk, what other team could throw in a 'big' of that caliber? Not many, and certainly very few combined with CJ's scoring ability.

I'm no fan of Harden, but if you can do this and keep Dame/Nurk, you do it....plain and simple. I'd like to keep Zach and would hate to part with Trent, but would likely have to include one or the other. Any way Kanter and Melo can be included? (fingers crossed)
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Remember Melo played for them and waive so I really don't think Melo be considered in that trade.
 
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