Markieff Morris?

[riverman]

I am not arguing this, but other than Sheed, i cant think of time this strategy has worked. Any examples i am missing where teams gave up young studs and regretted it?

Still a new trend and TRob could have been one had we kept him. Vonleh now. Time will tell but let a crappy team give a rookie some experience then sign them in year 2 and be ahead of the game. Just makes sense to me.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Still a new trend and TRob could have been one had we kept him. Vonleh now. Time will tell but let a crappy team give a rookie some experience then sign them in year 2 and be ahead of the game. Just makes sense to me.

So no examples

 

[riverman]

So no examples

notice the new trend part of that statement..I'm sure there are examples but I'm too lazy to go look for them

 

[Wizard Mentor]

Picks can and have been traded for without using picks.

Which is exactly what Olshey has done this summer.

 

[Blazers Roy]

WHEN DID I SAY TANK?
i must have been drinking

That's the feel i got from your posts (better picks=more chance of getting stars).
I still believe we can do smart moves in FA.

 

[Blazers Roy]

I am not arguing this, but other than Sheed, i cant think of time this strategy has worked. Any examples i am missing where teams gave up young studs and regretted it?

T-Mac

 

[Wizard Mentor]

So no examples

To ME, there is a HUGE difference between high draft picks that make it big for the team that drafted them, and high draft picks who became stars for other teams.

The old Clipper used to basically be a farm system for the big city teams. It didn't matter how many high talent draft picks they chose, those players went on to help other teams.

So, Method 1: Draft a dude, surround with all-star talent
Examples:
Miami: draft Wade, got Shaq, later got LBJ, Bosh
Boston: drafted Pierce, got Allen, KG
Dallas: drafted (more or less) Dirk, been rotating players in and out ever since.
Houston: drafted no one of consequence, got Beard, Howard

Method 2: Hit with low draft picks
Examples:
Blazers: Drafted Drexler, Porter, Kersey, got Duck, Buck
SA: Drafted Timmy, Manu, Parker, Leonard...
GS: Drafted Curry, Thompson, Green

Blazers seem to be doing, more or less, method 1. I definitely approve of this method.

 

[Mediocre Man]

T-Mac

He was a FA. He left

 

[Mediocre Man]

That's the feel i got from your posts (better picks=more chance of getting stars).
I still believe we can do smart moves in FA.

Which dont equal championships. They equal Steve Blake and Chris Kaman

 

[Draco]

Look at our current roster bro.

Dame #6 (we traded for)
Leonard #10 (Our actual draft pick)
Von #9 ( we traded for)
CJ #11 ( our actual draft pick)
Plumlee #22 (we traded for)

We have that "rebuild" through trades already. We could easily keep doing the same thing and get the same results.

You gotta really suck to get a chance for a "franchise" player through the draft. Must be a top 5 pick. I don't think we will suck that bad, even if we keep the same team.

We also signed Wes Matthews in free agency. Yes he is no longer on the team but a few months ago he was a top5 SG in this league.

 

[Tunchi]

Jermaine O'neal is another one

 

[Nikolokolus]

Rebuilding doesn't always mean you have to miss the playoffs, you can rebuild while having a good record.
We need to acquire legit starters somehow and i don't believe Vonleh or Davis will ever be legit starters.

Can't wait to get back on that mediocrity treadmill eh?

 

[Blazers Roy]

Which dont equal championships. They equal Steve Blake and Chris Kaman

Fair enough, but you can always trade those guys. I don't want Olshey to sign Kanter (Or bring Morris) because he can win us championships, i want Kanter because MAYBE you can trade him for value later on while keeping a winning culture while you wait.

Sometimes the draft equals Greg Oden and Michael Olowokandi. Nothing is perfect.

 

[Blazers Roy]

Can't wait to get back on that mediocrity treadmill eh?

The Rockets were also rocking that mediocrity treadmill until OKC was dumb enough to give them a superstar for FUCKING KEVIN MARTIN.

And it's not all about championships for me, i enjoy a good winning season.

 

[magnifier661]

Can't wait to get back on that mediocrity treadmill eh?

It did us well in 1998, 2006 and 2013

 

[Blazers Roy]

BTW, interesting news lately: DJ is not so sure about signing with the Mavs and Cuban already said they would have tanked if they hadn't secured DJ

 

[Mediocre Man]

Fair enough, but you can always trade those guys. I don't want Olshey to sign Kanter (Or bring Morris) because he can win us championships, i want Kanter because MAYBE you can trade him for value later on while keeping a winning culture while you wait.

Sometimes the draft equals Greg Oden and Michael Olowokandi. Nothing is perfect.

I agree. I just think for a team like ours, we should focus on building through the draft, rather than having a billion dollars that no one wants because its Portland. All of our great players...with the exception of a couple were acquired via the draft...either our own pick or a draft day trade for a pick like LA

 

[1eyejack]

I agree. I just think for a team like ours, we should focus on building through the draft, rather than having a billion dollars that no one wants because its Portland. All of our great players...with the exception of a couple were acquired via the draft...either our own pick or a draft day trade for a pick like LA

I agree the only way to turn this team around is through the draft. No big free agents are coming here until this team becomes a legit title contender. Next year will be brutal and should mean a lottery pick then see if you can land another pick somehow. Hope and pray the pick turns into something special and maybe one or two of our kids on the current roster turn into good/great players.

Being a middle of the road team is horrible idea!!!!!! Yes I hate losing and don't condone losing on purpose but there is a benefit in that we should have pretty good idea of what kind of players we have on roster by end of next year.

 

[dviss1]

If a muthafucka sends my mother some crazy ass messages i might break his nose too!! #jussayin...

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Again I say to those who say that getting the 8 seed would be a bad thing, I completely disagree. If this group as presently assembled--plus one or two more young "potential" guys--is able to win 45 games and make the playoffs, that would portend great things for the future. 7-8 seeds that are full of veterans (like Dallas) are in bad shape, but 7-8 seeds that are full of youth (like New Orleans) have a lot to look forward to.

Sure, a top-3 seed would be great, but an unexpected playoff team would certainly be better.

 

[oldmangrouch]

I'd rather have the 8th seed than finish 9th.

OTOH, I would also rather finish 15th than 9th.

 

[Reep]

Now he wants a trade. I would pass, but he would be cheap.

 

[Blazer4ever]

I would trade for him, fits our plan exactly. Young, would come for less than he's worth, a very good player.

 

[Blazer4ever]

Also, the Morris twins need to be seperated, it''s impossible to tell them apart and they have 90% the same name

 

[BlazerWookee]

Fuck no.

 

[Reep]

My biggest gripe is that I don't like power forwards who can't rebound. Also I have never liked his attitude. I like toughness (Brian Grant), but Morris' version is different.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Hes an asset. If his contract is tradable, why not?

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

Also, the Morris twins need to be seperated, it''s impossible to tell them apart and they have 90% the same name

Hell yeah. I'm still trying to figure out which Plumlee we have.....

 

[KingSpeed]

I kinda miss having a thug team...last time we had one we were 1 quarter of meltdown away from being champions.

That team wasn't really a thug team. Steve Smith, Schremp, Sabonis, Grant not thugs. It was when we got Patterson and Woods and Randolph that we became thug team.

 

[KingSpeed]

Hell yeah. I'm still trying to figure out which Plumlee we have.....

Team USA Plumlee