Understandable that you're in a pessimistic place but we've been able to hold onto a lot of different guys for quite a while over the years. Most players don't start their careers and finish them on the same team but we held onto Sheed for a long time, we held onto Dame, we held onto Clyde, we held onto LaMarcus for nine seasons. I think we can expect both guys to be here through at least their first extensions if they are great and get the super max, if they are great and winning together I would expect us to keep them through their primes.