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BankTeller said:
Is anyone actually confident we could even get Martin from Pat in a move for Dame? Martin, Jovic, Herro, salaries and 3 1sts are what I would expect for Dame. Hold firm on getting Martin from them.
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I don't view Martin as being as consequential to our rebuild as you do... I'd rather have Jaquez and I think the Heat would rather have Martin. Also in order to get us three firsts the Heat would have to reach an agreement with the Thunder to change the protections they have on the first the Thunder are owed. Herro also needs to be flipped we obviously don't need another guard as one of our most valuable assets.
 
Does he play defense? He could be a OKC Jalen-Williams type of player.


 
Mediocre Man said:
Haven’t you heard. Im in the dark like everyone else
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KingSpeed said:
Jaquez Jr and Jovic had nice stat lines last night, Anyone watch?
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Meh on both prospects. Admittedly, it was only one game.

I struggle to see a long-term role for Jovic. He can shoot, but he floats too much on the outside. Not much athleticism.

Jaquez seems like a poor-man Hart. I can see him becoming a rotation bench player. Decent player.

I actually liked what I saw out of the C Orlando Robinson the most.
 
RonBrewer said:
I believe with everything that we will not ship him to Miami. I think it's gonna be Boston. National Media is putting it out.

Philly a dark horse

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What? Bill Simmons favors Boston? Inconceivable!
 
AmirIcon said:
They're trying to get better with veterans now. Udoka is there and he's still very tight with Brown. I think it's a match made in heaven. They'd probably shell out that super max too.
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I didn't think any other team could offer that, besides Boston.
One of the requirements of the 'designated veteran' is that they are on the same team continuously
 
wizenheimer said:
Blazers can't swap their 2027 first because of Bulls. Well, I guess it could be a contingent swap if the Blazers were in the lottery, but that wouldn't make sense
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Apologies, but could someone explain the conditions regarding the pick we have going to Chicago? Including something in the Lillard deal that goes to Chicago that may free up that pick may be helpful to us.
 
Who is the best defensive point guard in the league? Might Pat Beverly be good for Scoot Henderson? It's imperative to get veterans who will play hard defense so it creates a tone within our young guys. If Dame had a coach who demanded it, he could have been a better defender.
 
maxiep said:
Apologies, but could someone explain the conditions regarding the pick we have going to Chicago? Including something in the Lillard deal that goes to Chicago that may free up that pick may be helpful to us.
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it was lottery protected in 2022 & 2023 as well. That's right, fucking Olshey put a hold on every available 1st round pick Portland had for 7 years...for Nance

Portland really can't even swap any draft picks till 2029. Oh, they could put a conditional swap of a lottery pick in one of those years, but that's insane.

IMO, there is only one way Portland gets out of that stupid trade without giving up a 1st and that's if they stay in the lottery for the next 5 years....which is entirely possible. The Bulls aren't going to let the Blazers off that hook

that's not even the most frustrating thing about that dumbass trade. Here's what Portland gave up for Nance:

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now, look what Chicago accepted in the trade for Lauri Markkanen:

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the Bulls traded Markkanen for what the Blazers traded for Nance. Portland could have Markkanen
 
wizenheimer said:
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it was lottery protected in 2022 & 2023 as well. That's right, fucking Olshey put a hold on every available 1st round pick Portland had for 7 years...for Nance

Portland really can't even swap any draft picks till 2029. Oh, they could put a conditional swap of a lottery pick in one of those years, but that's insane.

IMO, there is only one way Portland gets out of that stupid trade without giving up a 1st and that's if they stay in the lottery for the next 5 years....which is entirely possible. The Bulls aren't going to let the Blazers off that hook

that's not even the most frustrating thing about that dumbass trade. Here's what Portland gave up for Nance:

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now, look what Chicago accepted in the trade for Lauri Markkanen:

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the Bulls traded Markkanen for what the Blazers traded for Nance. Portland could have Markkanen
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Man, I hate Olshey.
 
AmirIcon said:
Who is the best defensive point guard in the league? Might Pat Beverly be good for Scoot Henderson? It's imperative to get veterans who will play hard defense so it creates a tone within our young guys. If Dame had a coach who demanded it, he could have been a better defender.
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Jrue Holiday thought Marcus Smart won DPOY. Beverly not on their level.
 
AmirIcon said:
Who is the best defensive point guard in the league? Might Pat Beverly be good for Scoot Henderson? It's imperative to get veterans who will play hard defense so it creates a tone within our young guys. If Dame had a coach who demanded it, he could have been a better defender.
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over and over people mention things they want to see going forward, and just about every scenario has no place for Simons
 
wizenheimer said:
over and over people mention things they want to see going forward, and just about every scenario has no place for Simons
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I wanted to trade him before Lillard...I believe he is now a critical part of the immediate future. I so hope this new backcourt learns to feed the hot hand, and he is as capable as any to get hot.
 
bemac said:
I wanted to trade him before Lillard...I believe he is now a critical part of the immediate future. I so hope this new backcourt learns to feed the hot hand, and he is as capable as any to get hot.
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Dame's bad defense was tolerable because he had superstar talent and could run the team's offense well

Simons is not anywhere as close to as talented as Dame, he hasn't shown he can run an offense, and his defense makes Dame look like Pat Beverly. As long as Ant is around, he'll start...meaning one of Scoot/Sharpe sits on the bench. If Portland has a shot at being really good, it's with Scoot and Sharpe developing major synergy. Simons will always be standing in the way of that.
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
Went through this entire thread to see if this was there. Just posturing? Or does this lend credence to rumors Herro might go elsewhere like to the Spurs? If true this would really destroy a lot of ideas for including NJ.
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Ian Begley on WFAN says “Nets want to be compensated if they are taking on Tyler Herro”

https://heatnation.com/rumors/repor...pensated-for-taking-on-tyler-herros-contract/
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I think it lends credence that we tell Miami to go fuck itself.
 
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