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tlongII said:
That's a horrible trade.
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Every plausible trade for a star needs to come with a heavy price to pay.

SGA and Gallinari And picks for PG is too much as well.
You people want to contend without big star forwards...
 
illmatic99 said:
Roco is getting so overrated.
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What makes Covington attractive is that he's a solid dependable player on a team friendly contract. What's not to like about that? Unfortunately that also makes him desirable to a lot of teams which could drive up the asking price for him.
 
CupWizier said:
What makes Covington attractive is that he's a solid dependable player on a team friendly contract. What's not to like about that? Unfortunately that also makes him desirable to a lot of teams which could drive up the asking price for him.
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He's not worth two first round picks and salary relief. He's not THE missing piece on any team, even a contender. Adding Roco to Philly or Houston doesn't automatically boos either team to championship level.

There are some GLeague players and guys on the Raptors roster who are making peanuts and providing a similar 3&d impact. While they are hard to find, it's not impossible. We just picked up Ariza off the trash heap and his stats and impact have mirrored Roco's, albeit while being a bit older. Breaking the bank for this guy seems foolish to me.
 
illmatic99 said:
He's not worth two first round picks and salary relief. He's not THE missing piece on any team, even a contender. Adding Roco to Philly or Houston doesn't automatically boos either team to championship level.

There are some GLeague players and guys on the Raptors roster who are making peanuts and providing a similar 3&d impact. While they are hard to find, it's not impossible. We just picked up Ariza off the trash heap and his stats and impact have mirrored Roco's, albeit while being a bit older. Breaking the bank for this guy seems foolish to me.
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Ariza is more than a bit older though as Covington is basically the same age as Lillard. What do you think would be fair?
 
Malik Beasley is a guy I absolutely loved last year. He's a backup wing who projected as a perfect 3&d guy. He's been getting marginalized in Denver with all their depth and Porter coming on, and he's gonna be a RFA this summer. Ain't no way they're gonna pay him.

I'd look into him and try to lock down his bird rights.
 
illmatic99 said:
I don't want to get in a bidding war for Roco. We can find Ariza level players on the margins, and it's one of the things Neil is actually good at.
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Problem with that is players on rookie contracts are valuable commodities for teams so their teams are reluctant to trade them during that time. Rookie contracts allow a team to be able to pay for their veterans that demand a high salary. I wasn't asking about a bidding war, just what you would be willing to trade for him (realistically).
 
CupWizier said:
Problem with that is players on rookie contracts are valuable commodities for teams so their teams are reluctant to trade them during that time. Rookie contracts allow a team to be able to pay for their veterans that demand a high salary. I wasn't asking about a bidding war, just what you would be willing to trade for him (realistically).
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Mentioned it in like a million times.

HW + protected first for Roco/Dieng.

Not going higher than that.
 
illmatic99 said:
Malik Beasley is a guy I absolutely loved last year. He's a backup wing who projected as a perfect 3&d guy. He's been getting marginalized in Denver with all their depth and Porter coming on, and he's gonna be a RFA this summer. Ain't no way they're gonna pay him.

I'd look into him and try to lock down his bird rights.
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Beasely is only 6'4" and his shooting is pretty poor in the month of January as well with 36% from the field and only 31% from 3 and assists and rebounds are sub par as well for a small forward. I would rather target Dillon Brooks before Beasely.
 
CupWizier said:
Beasely is only 6'4" and his shooting is pretty poor in the month of January as well with 36% from the field and only 31% from 3 and assists and rebounds are sub par as well for a small forward. I would rather target Dillon Brooks before Beasely.
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I said backup wing, not starting small forward, and already explained the reason for his down year. Brooks will be a lot less available than Beasley.

Beasley's numbers last season are exactly what Crabbe's were the year before he got paid. Not gonna be that market for Beasley this summer, and Denver has too many guys to pay. They won't break the bank to keep him. I think he'd be a really valuable bench piece this year and for the future.
 
illmatic99 said:
Why? He's got a torn meniscus and had a setback while rehabbing. He's prolly out the rest of the season.
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I didn't know.


Zach Lowe said Henry Giles is "probably available".
When asked who use to be the best player on his HS class,Tatum replied :Giles , without pausing to think about it. Some KG potential there according to him.
Idk about his health tho...
 
CupWizier said:
Ariza is more than a bit older though as Covington is basically the same age as Lillard. What do you think would be fair?
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not worried about Ariza age, we have him this year and next, and Little is his replacement next year at the trade deadline.
 


I'd be all over Frank or Knox. Why is NY gauging offers for these guys instead of the old guys?
 
illmatic99 said:
I said backup wing, not starting small forward, and already explained the reason for his down year. Brooks will be a lot less available than Beasley.

Beasley's numbers last season are exactly what Crabbe's were the year before he got paid. Not gonna be that market for Beasley this summer, and Denver has too many guys to pay. They won't break the bank to keep him. I think he'd be a really valuable bench piece this year and for the future.
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We don't need a 6'4" back up wing though and we need a starting small forward. Ariza is doing great, but depending on what we do next year, who is the starting small forward? We need to solidify that position. Another season and Little could likely be a better option as back up wing than Beasely and he's already here on a rookie contract.
 
CupWizier said:
We don't need a 6'4" back up wing though and we need a starting small forward. Ariza is doing great, but depending on what we do next year, who is the starting small forward? We need to solidify that position. Another season and Little could likely be a better option as back up wing than Beasely and he's already here on a rookie contract.
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Rodney Hood.
 
illmatic99 said:


I'd be all over Frank or Knox. Why is NY gauging offers for these guys instead of the old guys?
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Probably 'cause all three of those guys are shooting under 40% on the season and putting up single-digit PER's. I don't see how they can be at all surprised that the offers are not strong.
 
For all intents and purposes, our starting lineup is set for next season, barring any further injuries.

Dame/ CJ/ Hood/ Collins/ Nurk.

We won't see this group for a single game this year, but I think everything I've read about Neil's plans and reading between the lines indicates that they want to give this a shot before moving on to bigger and better options. What we need for the future outside of these guys is:

- depth to sustain injury
- defensive versatility
- shooting
- a possible PG in case Simons' development stagnates
- trade pieces to make a move at the deadline next year in case we bomb the early part of the 20-21 season (contracts/ picks)

The goal at this deadline should be to acquire at least some of the above without breaking the bank on our assets this year (exceptions/picks/etc).
 
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PtldPlatypus said:
Probably 'cause all three of those guys are shooting under 40% on the season and putting up single-digit PER's. I don't see how they can be at all surprised that the offers are not strong.
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I have an irrational affinity for Frank and think he can turn it around in the proper role. As a lead guard next to Simons off our bench, he'd be a great fit. I know there are others who feel the same way here.
 
hoopsjock said:
Was Ramadan the problem last year or would he have been fine without the shoulder injury?
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No doubt it was a combination of both. Players burn a ton of calories during a game and when you aren't eating properly, it will definitely effect their strength and stamina.
 
illmatic99 said:
I said backup wing, not starting small forward, and already explained the reason for his down year. Brooks will be a lot less available than Beasley.
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Funny you should mention that. I noticed this week that Brooks is finally listed as a SG -- and not in a 3-guard lineup -- which is what I was making a case for before the draft when I said he's a lottery talent. He was a mediocre SF prospect being played out of position.
 
illmatic99 said:
Roco is getting so overrated.
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He's a great fit for the Blazers though. Right age, right salary range and he's a good 3 & D player... he's exactly what the team needs at the SF position. That combination is what makes him so attractive to contending teams. Basically, he's a 5-6 year younger version of Ariza and we're seeing just how valuable that skill set is to this team. Of course, that skill set is going to be very attractive to other contenders, notably Golden State. Apparently, the Wolves covet Russell and want to work a deal with the Warriors, but the Warriors are also asking for an unprotected first back. I don't think that Ariza and the Blazers' first will get the job done, so if Neil wants Covington he's likely going to have to make an additional trade that includes one of our young guys like Trent, Ant or Little for another piece back from the T'Wolves...likely Napier since he'd be a great fit as backup PG.
 
handiman said:
Funny you should mention that. I noticed this week that Brooks is finally listed as a SG -- and not in a 3-guard lineup -- which is what I was making a case for before the draft when I said he's a lottery talent. He was a mediocre SF prospect being played out of position.
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small forward and shooting guard is pretty much interchangeable in todays game. Most sites have him listed as a guard/forward.
 
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