Neil is building towards something...

[magnifier661]

Oh no, he's way better than mediocre. That pizza is good stuff

Especially when they add those red pepper flake packets!

 

[Denny Crane]

Yes and he's also another player you don't want to risk as well. He's most likely going to bolt next summer anyway.

I think Noah would love it in Portland.

However, I'd like to see something like: sign LMA, trade for Taj, sign JR Smith (and start him), sign Deng.

 

[magnifier661]

I think Noah would love it in Portland.

However, I'd like to see something like: sign LMA, trade for Taj, sign JR Smith (and start him), sign Deng.

You sure? He seems the flamboyant type that requires limelight. I don't think the tree hungers and bicycle riders in Portland is appealing to him

 

[Denny Crane]

He's a pot smoking hippie type with long hair.

 

[magnifier661]

Indiana with Hibbert has 52 mil in salaries. If we trade 5 mil Kaman and 10 mil in cap space in Hibbert would help Indiana to move on without Hibbert and West. They would drop to 42 mil, with 24 left to retool.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

I think Noah would love it in Portland.

However, I'd like to see something like: sign LMA, trade for Taj, sign JR Smith (and start him), sign Deng.

sans JR Smith, I like it!

 

[Denny Crane]

sans JR Smith, I like it!

For MLE or less kind of money, you get an extraordinary 3PT shooter and scorer to replace Wes' shooting.

Given the cap/roster puzzle as it is, I don't see a better guy to get. Do you?

Next summer, another draft and MLE and BAE to add depth.

 

[magnifier661]

For MLE or less kind of money, you get an extraordinary 3PT shooter and scorer to replace Wes' shooting.

Given the cap/roster puzzle as it is, I don't see a better guy to get. Do you?

Next summer, another draft and MLE and BAE to add depth.

The streakiness scares the hell out of me. I would much rather having a guard that is a more dynamic scorer. I know JR can score at the rim, but he tends to fall in love with contested jumpers.

 

[riverman]

He's a pot smoking hippie type with long hair.

Then he's headed for the Nuggetss

 

[Denny Crane]

FWIW, to get Taj, I think the Bulls would accept salary and at least $4M in cap relief.

 

[magnifier661]

FWIW, to get Taj, I think the Bulls would accept salary and at least $4M in cap relief.

That would be plan C

 

[Wizard Mentor]

For MLE or less kind of money, you get an extraordinary 3PT shooter and scorer to replace Wes' shooting.

Given the cap/roster puzzle as it is, I don't see a better guy to get. Do you?

Next summer, another draft and MLE and BAE to add depth.

Did you watch the finals? When the Cavs didn't know what to do they gave it to JR and he went 1 on 5. He makes a LOT of bad decisions. Frankly, I'd rather start Crabbe. Hell, I'd rather start Goyle!

 

[riverman]

FWIW, to get Taj, I think the Bulls would accept salary and at least $4M in cap relief.

I'd offer Kaman for Taj Gibson in a heartbeat

 

[riverman]

Kaman would be a lot closer to his home and boat in Chicago

 

[Denny Crane]

The streakiness scares the hell out of me. I would much rather having a guard that is a more dynamic scorer. I know JR can score at the rim, but he tends to fall in love with contested jumpers.

He's clutch. At least he was in the playoffs and finals.

6MOY candidate at worst.

Both he and Wes shot about 3/7 from 3pt per game last season.

He's 6'6", too. Nice size next to Lillard.

 

[Denny Crane]

I'd offer Kaman for Taj Gibson in a heartbeat

If that's their best offer, they might do it.

 

[magnifier661]

He's clutch. At least he was in the playoffs and finals.

6MOY candidate at worst.

Both he and Wes shot about 3/7 from 3pt per game last season.

He's 6'6", too. Nice size next to Lillard.

He's also goat. Reminds me too much of Crawful but with character issues. Yes, he will win games, but he also will lose games as well. Which player do you get?

 

[Wizard Mentor]

He's clutch. At least he was in the playoffs and finals.

6MOY candidate at worst.

Both he and Wes shot about 3/7 from 3pt per game last season.

He's 6'6", too. Nice size next to Lillard.

What's the story with Noah? Why is he available? Are they rebuilding? Is Noah injured?

 

[riverman]

I'm not a JR Smith fan at all. One trick pony and bad fit for team chemistry in my view

 

[riverman]

What's the story with Noah? Why is he available? Are they rebuilding? Is Noah injured?

He's got BRoy knees

 

[Scalma]

Olshey knows JR smith from his basketball camps. Just a tidbit.

 

[oldmangrouch]

The more I think about it the more I'm convinced tyson chandler will be our main target. I know olshey has a relationship with jordan but stotts also has a relationship with chandler and that's a bit more important than a gm relationship. Wouldn't even surprise me if we offer him the max. You think LA would wanna play next to chandler? Me too

I think it is safe to say that Chandler is the best of the 4 from the neck up. He has long had a rep as a guy other players like to play with. The elephant in the room is his age.

 

[riverman]

Plumlee and Gobert have some of the best rim protecting stats in the league and they're young...I'd love to have both

 

[magnifier661]

Plumlee and Gobert have some of the best rim protecting stats in the league and they're young...I'd love to have both

There is a better chance at getting LBJ than getting Hobert from Utah.

 

[Denny Crane]

What's the story with Noah? Why is he available? Are they rebuilding? Is Noah injured?

To re-sign Butler, the Bulls would have to pay luxury tax, oh no! They're too focused on profit for that. Not only paying the tax, but not getting the tax distribution from the league.

They're a $million or two over. Get them $4M, and they can sign Dunleavy and be under the LT.

They have 8 PF/C on the roster. Gasol, Noah, Taj, Mirotic, Portis, McDermott, Bairstow, and Mohammad. Rumor is both Noah and Taj are being shopped hard.

Noah on his bad knee was still really good. Just not every night. He may rehab it enough, but the cap hit is far less for Taj.

Taj can play both PF and C. I could see him starting alongside LMA, and playing next to Plumlee. He's a great shot blocker and can defend 3 positions, or all 5 in switches.

The difference in salary between the two gets you someone like Smith.

 

[Scalma]

Is there ANY way Chicago let's Butler go?

 

[magnifier661]

Is there ANY way Chicago let's Butler go?

I would say he's the most untouchable player in Chicago. Even at max, he will be cheaper than anything. He's their most prized asset, IMO.

 

[riverman]

Is there ANY way Chicago let's Butler go?

although most sports articles are not to be taken seriously..I read one that said Butler does not like the Bulls Front Office and would like a change of scenery

 

[Denny Crane]

Is there ANY way Chicago let's Butler go?

Think profit.

They make more money with him on the roster at near the LT than without him.

Bulls don't have to revenue share jerseys and the like sold by the team in Chicago.

Plus, they don't want to kill the golden goose by alienating the fans.

Bulls are contenders for the financial championship only.

 

[Scalma]

I would say he's the most untouchable player in Chicago. Even at max, he will be cheaper than anything. He's their most prized asset, IMO.

I meant salary wise, is there any way to construct something Chicago couldn't match?