OFFICIAL AROUND THE NBA: JUNE 2023

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blazerkor said:
Probably why Phoenix is supposedly the team more likely landing him. Miami seems like they're as delusional as their fans... they probably also think they have what it would take to add Dame to Jimmy and Bam.
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Yeah...after adding Beal lol
 
Gronk_Brady said:
This is another reason I don’t like mortgaging the future to build around 33 year old Dame… other teams will get better too! No one we can trade for will compete with Beal/Booker/Durant, let alone the Denver Nuggets… and you know the Lakers will make moves too. Bridges just won’t get us there… no matter how good he is on defense… and you lose Simons 23 points per game in the process. Zion is the ONLY move that makes us competitive now AND keeps the future bright, pairing him with Sharpe after Dame.
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I don't want to see a team with Beal/Booker/Durant, especially in the west.
 
Gronk_Brady said:
It’s not reaching, it’s being realistic with timelines. I’d rather roll the dice with Simons/Sharpe/Miller or Scoot 3-5 years from now than trade away valuable building blocks and think a newly assembled roster will be good enough, have no injuries, and gel quick enough with a 33, 34, and 35 year old Dame to have a serious chance at competing for a championship.
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OK roll the dice with those players and keep Dame.
Or if you get me a package for Dame that includes an up-and-coming big (named Evan Mobley) and I am all in.
I just don't want a bunch of matching salaries and picks that will not be in the lottery.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
OK roll the dice with those players and keep Dame.
Or if you get me a package for Dame that includes an up-and-coming big (named Evan Mobley) and I am all in.
I just don't want a bunch of matching salaries and picks that will not be in the lottery.
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Agree… I’d rather keep both. I’m only referring to if Dame demands a trade.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
The same conference as the Wiz, but a better possible return IMO. I think this happens.
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I'd be happy for Beal. He's a great talent, but he ain't Dame Good. Getting Herro, Caleb Martin, Victor Oladipo and a couple future end of 1st rounders isn't terrible for Beal.
 
Only Herro & Martin are potential keepers. Victor's had a ton of hard luck since that awful quad injury. He's on an expiring deal.
 
blazerkor said:
Probably why Phoenix is supposedly the team more likely landing him. Miami seems like they're as delusional as their fans... they probably also think they have what it would take to add Dame to Jimmy and Bam.
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How many games will Beal and Durant miss?
 
KingSpeed said:
Beal and Booker play the exact same position. Who is coming off the bench?
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One of them would be playing at PG or SF. They'd figure it out. You don't play either of them off the bench.
 
I just listened to the latest Zach Lowe podcast (Thu) Givony, Bobby Marks and him talking NBA Finals, draft, trades. Regarding the Blazers, they all say Dame is too knowledgeable to not be ok if the Blazers use the pick to draft a player to keep if no earth-shattering offers were on the table.

I think, If Hornets take Scoot, we take Miller and keep him.

If Hornets take Miller, we trade the pick to the highest bidder. There are plenty of suitors for Scoot.

If the deals for #3 is underwhelming, we don't take Scoot and take Amen instead.

If we use the 3rd pick to draft and keep a player, we will use Ant/Nurk/Nas/Keon/23/2nds/Future draft capital/Cash considerations/etc to add all-star caliber player/s

For example:

Dame
Sharpe
Grant
Porzingis/Siakam
Lopez Brook
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Miller/Amen
Thybulle
??
 
It's apparently

Ayton + Salary Fillers or CP3 + Shamet

OR

Lowry, Duncan Robinson, and multiple firsts
 
Predator said:
It's apparently

Ayton + Salary Fillers or CP3 + Shamet

OR

Lowry, Duncan Robinson, and multiple firsts
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I've read that the Wizards don't have interest in Ayton and are weighing the 190M in salary savings with a Beal for CP3 swap

vs

100M in eventual salary savings in a Miami trade with the shot at a 1st round pick (18th pick Thursday)
 
Pinwheel1 said:
The comment section in that link pretty much sums up my thoughts..........way too much
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I'd agree. Seems like somebody is throwing out the 30M number in a vacuum. Hard for me to see any team willing to pay that much for him

my first thought was that tweet was FVV's agent doing some work inflating his client's value

of course, every time I think the NBA won't sign some free agent to a stupid contract...some team agrees to that stupid contract
 


Yeah, just CP3, Shamet and some second rounders. The suns are going to have a lot of scoring on that team next season. There is only one ball so I don't know if this deal translates into as many wins as it should given how lopsided it is but it's definitely a big win for the Sun FO.
 
This deal for Beal is insane and the Suns will have a KILLER offense but I wonder who the hell will stop people this feels like the Suns going back to the old Suns teams with Kevin Johnson , Barkley , Dan M and Jeff Horncek ( sp ) where they just try and run the teams out of the building.
 
So how long before CP3 lands back in Phoenix on a vets min
 
blazerkor said:


Yeah, just CP3, Shamet and some second rounders. The suns are going to have a lot of scoring on that team next season. There is only one ball so I don't know if this deal translates into as many wins as it should given how lopsided it is but it's definitely a big win for the Sun FO.
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I’m sorry, but it’s time to trade Dame. There are no moves Blazers can make to compete with Suns, or Nuggets. Time to be realistic and not throw away the next decade by trading the 3rd pick.
 
Gronk_Brady said:
I’m sorry, but it’s time to trade Dame. There are no moves Blazers can make to compete with Suns, or Nuggets. Time to be realistic and not throw away the next decade by trading the 3rd pick.
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Still waiting for the package you expect back for Dame that gives us the incentive to move him. You saw what Washington got back for Beal. Yes, Dame is better than Beal because he is a PG...but still, who are we getting back that it is worth repeating your point over and over? Just clearing his salary? That is not smart IMO.
 
Gronk_Brady said:
I’m sorry, but it’s time to trade Dame. There are no moves Blazers can make to compete with Suns, or Nuggets. Time to be realistic and not throw away the next decade by trading the 3rd pick.
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I had the over/under on the first "This means we should trade Dame because all is lost" post at a mere three minutes, but we made it to six minutes. Good job everyone.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
Still waiting for the package you expect back for Dame that gives us the incentive to move him. You saw what Washington got back for Beal. Yes, Dame is better than Beal because he is a PG...but still, who are we getting back that it is worth repeating your point over and over? Just clearing his salary? That is not smart IMO.
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It’s more about not trading the 3rd pick… that is a major asset to give up so Dame can play with his buddy. No move makes these team a true contender. Don’t want to mortgage the future. You team Sharpe with Scoot or Miller and that is a very bright future.
 
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