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Sharpe ive watched a handful of games and went "meh". He doesnt have any elite traits like SGA.

Scoot has shown nothing lol.

Sharpe has elite athleticism.

Not sure how you can say Scoot has shown nothing. He's inconsistent and he isn't the player that we thought he'd be right off the jump, but he has shown flashes.
 
Can a cap / cba affish explain how Deni’s Bird rights play into this, please?

Absolutely, I’d be happy to explain how Deni’s Bird rights play into this — though I have to say, I’m frankly shocked this even needs to be clarified. The idea that Deni doesn’t have full, unambiguous rights to his birds — both in terms of ownership and airspace regulation — is a grotesque miscarriage of civic understanding, and frankly, a national embarrassment.

Let’s start with the basics. Deni Avdija is a man of discipline, grace, and precise perimeter defense — but more importantly, he is a man who owns four exotic cockatoos, a macaw named “Gilad,” and a rescue kestrel called “Tal.” These are not just birds. These are avian companions, bonded to him through a spiritual covenant forged in the quiet mornings of Lake Oswego, where he sips espresso and communes with the sky.

Now, Bird Rights in this context are about more than who feeds the birds and who scrapes the droppings off the railing. We’re talking air sovereignty. We're talking riparian aerial zoning. You see, the city of Lake Oswego has some of the most obscure bird flight path regulations in the entire Pacific Northwest. According to City Code §11.3.42-A (look it up, don’t be lazy), a homeowner may claim "ambient aerial rights up to 68 feet above the tallest stationary structure on their property." Deni’s got a 34-foot gabled roof and a reinforced pergola, so guess what? That’s 68 feet of pure, unregulated bird glory — vertically exclusive. The kestrel can dive-bomb within that perimeter and no HOA drone has the jurisdiction to stop him.

But here's where it gets thorny: federal migratory bird overlay maps often conflict with local ordinances. For instance, if Gilad the macaw strays into the “Shared Raptor Corridor” — a real thing, by the way, designated by the Department of Fish and Wildlife — technically, he could be considered a guest bird, and subject to conditional flyover approval. It’s ridiculous, it’s bureaucratic, it’s America.

Now, some of you might be thinking, “Wait, isn’t this just about Deni being a restricted free agent?” And to that I say — how dare you. You small-minded box-checker. You think everything has to be about contracts and cap holds and mid-level exceptions. Open your third eye. This is about freedom, and the birds know it.

Let’s contrast this with Deni’s experience in Tel Aviv, where his family's villa is bordered by a citrus grove and, reportedly, a very aggressive community of red-winged starlings. In Israel, bird rights are handled with a combination of Talmudic precedence and modern aviation law. There’s a mutual respect — a covenant, if you will — between human and bird. You don't leash a parakeet there. You invite it. You offer it a home, a mango slice, maybe a small dish of tahini. If it stays, mazel tov. If not, you were never meant to own it. It's poetic.

Whereas in Oregon, we microchip every damn thing. Tag it, log it, make it a PDF. There’s a fundamental difference in avian philosophy. In Tel Aviv, a kestrel is a messenger. In Oregon, it’s a “Class 2 Protected Asset,” unless it pecks a toddler, in which case it's immediately reclassified as an “Aggressive Invasive Threat.”

And let’s not forget that birds in the U.S. don't even have the right to self-define. In Tel Aviv, there's a whole sub-discipline of ecological semiotics devoted to bird preference. If a stork wants to identify as a shorebird and attend coastal migration parties, nobody’s going to call the wildlife police. In Oregon? Some park ranger with a clipboard and a limp will write it up for being “out of ecosystem.” Bullshit.

So yes — Deni’s Bird rights absolutely play into this. They play into this every morning when Gilad perches on the western balcony rail and screams into the coastal fog like a winged prophet of judgment. They play into this when Tal dive-bombs a squirrel and Deni simply nods. And they especially play into this when some Blazers intern suggests that his “non-Bird rights” might limit his financial mobility. Oh, honey. He has Bird Rights. In more ways than you’ll ever understand.

And another thing — who the hell is stealing all the pinecones from his driveway? They don’t just disappear. That’s not wind. That’s a coordinated effort by either local crows or the HOA president, Gary, who’s always been sketchy. One time he wore cargo sandals. In October. You can’t trust a man like that with avian zoning ordinances.
 
I don't see any trades happening. We will probably convert Sidy's two way to an actual contract to fill the 14th spot and sign Skapintsev to a two way alongside Love and a third player.

Or

Alternatively, we could sign Bouknight to the 14th spot (I think he is passed eligibility to be a two way now). Then keep Cissoko and Love as two ways and sign Skapintsev to a two way as well.

Rather sign sissoko and Love over buttknight and Skapper
 
Can a cap / cba affish explain how Deni’s Bird rights play into this, please?
Had two explanations already, but the biggest one is, we can renegotiate and extend him after next season. Which is our best option for keeping him, beyond him jut wanting to be here. We need to retain cap space, and then we can adjust his salary/renegotiate his salary for that season and then extend him based on the new salary
 
Had two explanations already, but the biggest one is, we can renegotiate and extend him after next season. Which is our best option for keeping him, beyond him jut wanting to be here. We need to retain cap space, and then we can adjust his salary/renegotiate his salary for that season and then extend him based on the new salary
So in this scenario we don't give Camara or Sharpe extensions, have Timelord and Thybulle walk then give Deni an extension before resigning Sharp next summer?

I hadn't heard of this idea before but your right seems like it may be possible.

Acquiring Jrue over Simons kind of makes that path more difficult.

I'm not sure ultimately that would be the best path as we might need to hold off on Sharpe/Camara extensions, hurts Deni short term trade value, and would probably mean the Blazers cant use any MLE/etc.

But yes interesting possibility.
 
So in this scenario we don't give Camara or Sharpe extensions, have Timelord and Thybulle walk then give Deni an extension before resigning Sharp next summer?

I hadn't heard of this idea before but your right seems like it may be possible.

Acquiring Jrue over Simons kind of makes that path more difficult.

I'm not sure ultimately that would be the best path as we might need to hold off on Sharpe/Camara extensions, hurts Deni short term trade value, and would probably mean the Blazers cant use any MLE/etc.

But yes interesting possibility.

Jrue Holiday $34,800,000
Jerami Grant $34,206,898
Deni Avdija $13,125,000
Scoot Henderson $13,585,523
Shaedon Sharpe $25,200,00 (cap-hold)
Donovan Clingan $7,519,920
Yang Hansen $4,643,520
Kris Murray $5,315,004
Toumani Camara $2,406,205
2026 1st round pick $6,000,000 (est)
3 roster charges $4,500,000

that's about 151M. There might be a little flex there in draft pick and roster charges

so then, next is the salary cap

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Blazers would have 14M in space. It might be as high as 18M. Maybe even more if the Blazers dump Murray (although that would add another roster charge)

then comes the calculations according to the CBA. There are no options in his contract. So my thinking is it would run thru 2027-28, then the extension would kick in. That would seem to mean that whatever calculation was used would be based upon the final season of his current deal: 11.875M. Now, 140% of that would be 16.6M. But if Portland is using cap-space instead I'd imagine that 40% bump would be deleted and the cap-space would have to be added to his 11.875M salary; unless of course his entire new base salary would have to come from cap-space with no credit for his last salary. If that were true then there's no way Deni would sign an extension with a 14-20M base salary. Even adding his last salary to cap-space yields a base salary of around 26-31M. Maybe that would be enough, but that would only be half of his max, maybe even less than half

and of course that would put Camara into the same situation that people want to avoid with Avdija: being an expiring contract headed to UFA

now, this is just my guesstimation based upon what little I know of the new CBA. Several posters here know more so maybe they can edit my numbers
 

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Sharpe has elite athleticism.

Not sure how you can say Scoot has shown nothing. He's inconsistent and he isn't the player that we thought he'd be right off the jump, but he has shown flashes.
Stren admittedly doesn't watch the games. In the post you're responding to he admits he thinks he can evaluate young players within 15 seconds (I assume he means he can evaluate not only where they're at but where they will end up).

That should answer any questions you have about how Stren comes to the conclusions he comes to. Also the guy is in a place where he obviously wants to shit on what the team is doing regardless of the fact that he doesn't expose himself enough to what's happening on the court to have an informed opinion. He prides himself in these things.
 
Sharpe has elite athleticism.

Not sure how you can say Scoot has shown nothing. He's inconsistent and he isn't the player that we thought he'd be right off the jump, but he has shown flashes.

Hes shown nothing to show superstar.

Sharpe is dime a dozen.
 
Stren admittedly doesn't watch the games. In the post you're responding to he admits he thinks he can evaluate young players within 15 seconds (I assume he means he can evaluate not only where they're at but where they will end up).

That should answer any questions you have about how Stren comes to the conclusions he comes to. Also the guy is in a place where he obviously wants to shit on what the team is doing regardless of the fact that he doesn't expose himself enough to what's happening on the court to have an informed opinion. He prides himself in these things.

I can. I was right about SGA.

Sharpe is mid and Scoot will never be a superstar. Its really easy to see objectively.

Its not that hard.
 
Jrue Holiday $34,800,000
Jerami Grant $34,206,898
Deni Avdija $13,125,000
Scoot Henderson $13,585,523
Shaedon Sharpe $25,200,00 (cap-hold)
Donovan Clingan $7,519,920
Yang Hansen $4,643,520
Kris Murray $5,315,004
Toumani Camara $2,406,205
2026 1st round pick $6,000,000 (est)
3 roster charges $4,500,000

that's about 151M. There might be a little flex there in draft pick and roster charges

so then, next is the salary cap

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Blazers would have 14M in space. It might be as high as 18M. Maybe even more if the Blazers dump Murray (although that would add another roster charge)

then comes the calculations according to the CBA. There are no options in his contract. So my thinking is it would run thru 2027-28, then the extension would kick in. That would seem to mean that whatever calculation was used would be based upon the final season of his current deal: 11.875M. Now, 140% of that would be 16.6M. But if Portland is using cap-space instead I'd imagine that 40% bump would be deleted and the cap-space would have to be added to his 11.875M salary; unless of course his entire new base salary would have to come from cap-space with no credit for his last salary. If that were true then there's no way Deni would sign an extension with a 14-20M base salary. Even adding his last salary to cap-space yields a base salary of around 26-31M. Maybe that would be enough, but that would only be half of his max, maybe even less than half

and of course that would put Camara into the same situation that people want to avoid with Avdija: being an expiring contract headed to UFA

now, this is just my guesstimation based upon what little I know of the new CBA. Several posters here know more so maybe they can edit my numbers
If Blazers make the playoffs no pick cap hold. Hopefully we decline Murray option so thats over 11mil saved.

25m seems high for Sharpe cap hold. If it is that high Blazers might even be able to get him on an extension now at that amount or less. Smith in the Rockets took 125/5.

Camara I heard we can have him as a RFA next summer.... Not sure his cap hold in that case.
 
I can. I was right about SGA.

Sharpe is mid and Scoot will never be a superstar. Its really easy to see objectively.

Its not that hard.
Sure... yeah, it's clear you get all of the information YOU need to draw a conclusion in 15 seconds. It seems to be a point of pride that should be an area of embarrassment for you. I don't mind the fact that you're a disillusioned fan of the team. The team has done plenty to get any rational person there. The fact remains that because you don't have as much information to draw from as almost every person here does, your takes mean little to nothing.

I also think that if you were being fair to people in here, due to the fact that you love to shit post, you would give up your spot as a mod. I wouldn't block you because I find your nonsense entertaining but people that don't want all of this uninformed negativity shouldn't have to leave the forum to stay away from it. I don't think you should put that decision on Sly or any of your fellow mods either.

That being said, that's just my opinion and like you have the right to your uninformed intentionally negatively slanted takes, the rest of us have the right to whatever takes we make too... it's just that most of us can be blocked if people want to stay away from what we put out.
 
If Blazers make the playoffs no pick cap hold. Hopefully we decline Murray option so thats over 11mil saved.

25m seems high for Sharpe cap hold. If it is that high Blazers might even be able to get him on an extension now at that amount or less. Smith in the Rockets took 125/5.

Camara I heard we can have him as a RFA next summer.... Not sure his cap hold in that case.

I'd say the odds of Portland making the playoffs next season are pretty damn small. Blazers have until 10/31 to exercise the option on Murray. Not sure which way they'll go on this. And for each slot opened, there will be a 1.4M roster charge. So, if they delete Murray's 5.3M salary, they will add back a 1.4M roster charge

Sharpe's cap-hold is 300% of his last salary of 8.4M....25.2M

Camara's cap-hold would be 190% of his last salary....about 4M. But if Portland declines the 4th year option, then they would have to submit a QO to maintain right of first refusal. IIRC that's around 135% of his previous salary. The problem with that though is if Camara gets some offer for 25M, for example, BEFORE any deal with Deni, that amount is immediately applied to Portland's cap and would wipe out the cap-space

If the Blazers can get Camara extended this summer, they need to do it and worry about Avdija in 2028
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I've alluded to it but I'd like a cap-guru to answer this: if the Blazers are trying to use cap-space to re-sign Avdija to an extension, does the entire base salary have to come from cap-space? or would the Blazers get credit for his 11.875M salary? I mean if they are offering him 40M, they need to have a full 40M in cap-space?
 
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I'd say the odds of Portland making the playoffs next season are pretty damn small. Blazers have until 10/31 to exercise the option on Murray. Not sure which way they'll go on this. And for each slot opened, there will be a 1.4M roster charge. So, if they delete Murray's 5.3M salary, they will add back a 1.4M roster charge



I've alluded to it but I'd like a cap-guru to answer this: if the Blazers are trying to use cap-space to re-sign Avdija, does the entire base salary have to come from cap-space? or would the Blazers get credit for his 11.875M salary? I mean if they are offering him 40M, they need to have a full 40M in cap-space?

Bird rights, no need for cap.space to sign him when he becomes a ufa
 
Is Dame coming back why Grant isn't gone?
I don't think so as I think Grant was shopped before Dame was cut and there wasn't any market.

However I think now Grant is off the trading block and it would be extremely unlikely that he is traded.
 
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/45790173/all-30-nba-teams-roster-mistakes-2020

All 30 NBA teams' biggest roster mistakes since 2020

27. Portland Trail Blazers
Biggest mistake
: Re-signing Jerami Grant for five years and $160 million (2023)

Just one day after the Trail Blazers and Grant agreed to a new contract in summer 2023, news broke that Damian Lillard had requested a trade out of Portland. All of a sudden, an expensive but understandable long-term deal looked horribly out of place, as the veteran forward no longer fit on a retooling roster.

Two years later, Grant's production has cratered -- shooting a career-worst 37% from the field last season -- and he has fallen behind the much younger Deni Avdija and Toumani Camara in Portland's perimeter pecking order.

Grant's contract hasn't gotten in the way of any other Trail Blazers moves yet -- but with the Blazers rising, Jrue Holiday's hefty deal now in the fold and Grant still owed another $102.6 million over the next three seasons, it might soon prove a tricky roster-building obstacle.
 
I just don’t see anyway you start Grant over Deni/Camara. Is he gonna have a problem with that?
 
He’ll start over Deni. I think Deni will be our Ginobli 6 man and Tou will start with Deni coming off the bench. They’ll want to have Grant have a hot start so he’ll have trade value at the deadline to a contender
 
I just don’t see anyway you start Grant over Deni/Camara. Is he gonna have a problem with that?

I do see one way. Extend Camara this summer, give him 30+ minutes a game while bringing him off the bench. He won't complain.
That gives the Blazers an extra shooter in the starting lineup and a lockdown defender /energy guy off the bench.

Tou will get big minutes whether he starts or comes off the bench. Chauncey loves him.
 
I do see one way. Extend Camara this summer, give him 30+ minutes a game while bringing him off the bench. He won't complain.
That gives the Blazers an extra shooter in the starting lineup and a lockdown defender /energy guy off the bench.

Tou will get big minutes whether he starts or comes off the bench. Chauncey loves him.
I want Tou guarding the best player on their team at all times. That means he needs to be starting.

Shae is gonna have to come off the bench if they insist on starting Grant.
 
He’ll start over Deni. I think Deni will be our Ginobli 6 man and Tou will start with Deni coming off the bench. They’ll want to have Grant have a hot start so he’ll have trade value at the deadline to a contender

Highly unlikely any team will have their best player coming off the bench. Deni will start. Without a doubt.
 
I want Tou guarding the best player on their team at all times. That means he needs to be starting.

Shae is gonna have to come off the bench if they insist on starting Grant.

I am guessing here, but I think it is more important for Shae's confidence having him start than Camara's.

A defensive player like Tou's will not be affected by coming off the bench. Shae and Grant's game might.

Many times the other team's best player eases into the offense. They often defer to their teammates early in the game to get them involved. I want Tou guarding their best player in the 4th quarter without worring about foul trouble. Now, granted, he does a good job of not fouling, but he still led the team in PFs last year.
 
Highly unlikely any team will have their best player coming off the bench. Deni will start. Without a doubt.
Plenty of nights when Ginobli was the Spurs best player....the idea is to build Grant's trade value...I think Chauncey starts Grant over Deni and Tou over Deni. Deni may play the most minutes on the team though. If Grant sucks...he'll lose the starting spot quickly.
 
I want Tou guarding the best player on their team at all times. That means he needs to be starting.

Shae is gonna have to come off the bench if they insist on starting Grant.
I think that's also a possibility
 
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