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Why was Aiden Chiles in the game?

...so all season long he has been subbed into the game for the 3rd or 4th drive of the game "to get him 1st half experience vs starting defenses" -- he only gets one drive no matter what the outcome is and it's usually a nice TD drive (vs inferior defense) -- or a sack fest (vs superior defense)
 
For years, I’ve watched horrible calls go against the Ducks as front runners. Like the officials were like, “we don’t want the PAC-12 to be amongst the champions”. Other leagues, they are more fair or push their front runners. No wonder the PAC-12 splitting up. I’d leave too. I hope the pac-12 refs get shat on. And sat on (by HCP - that’ll teach ‘em).

This game is horrendous.
 
I don't have a dog in the fight but god damn I want the beavs to win to set up that BEAUTIFUL possible final match up ever with Oregon next week (a little dramatic I know lol)
 
Penix isn’t helping his guys by slinging those rockets at them. He has so much velocity on those throws that they’re just bouncing off their hands. That’s partially on him.
 
Penix isn’t helping his guys by slinging those rockets at them. He has so much velocity on those throws that they’re just bouncing off their hands. That’s partially on him.
That was the complaint about Elway for years.
 
DJU ain’t the guy. You guys need a decent QB. That’s all you’re missing.
 
I really didn't expect that bad-snap safety to be the difference in the game....
 
finally something Beavs and Ducks can agree with

agreed. and to be clear, i am not suggesting the refs call the game any way but honest. for years, the pac-12 refs have been harder against the superior teams in the games i’ve watched. for the first time, i feel like it’s been different. but they’re still terrible.
 
agreed. and to be clear, i am not suggesting the refs call the game any way but honest. for years, the pac-12 refs have been harder against the superior teams in the games i’ve watched. for the first time, i feel like it’s been different. but they’re still terrible.

as is my tendency, a couple of years ago I compiled a bunch of stats for a football forum I'm on. Well, not a bunch, just a couple of categories

over a 10 year period, the Pac-12 averaged having 7.8 teams in the bottom-30, in the nation, for number of penalties and penalty yardage. And, IIRC it was 8.7 teams in the bottom 3rd (out of 125-132 teams; maybe it was bottom-half). It was insane looking at the numbers and it clearly demonstrated that Pac-12 officials can't stop blowing their damn whistles. It sure didn't mean that somehow, the Pac-12 had gathered together the most undisciplined 12 teams in the nation

IIRC, I think SI did a study on penalties and found that the Pac-12 officials called something like 80% more pass interference penalties than any other conference. PI being one of the most prone-to-bad-judgement calls there is, and for sure, the Pac-12 has that call on blast. The offensive PI against Terrance Ferguson yesterday was almost as bad as the defensive PI against the Ducks last week

now, being a Duck fan, I agree with you that it seems Oregon has been the victim of more crucial game-turning penalties than any other team. But I usually don't watch every minute of every game not the Ducks. And it sure seems that over the last 2 years I've never seen a team get the benefit of almost every questionable and outright bad call as Washington has. But for the most part, I think Pac-12 officials are a lot more incompetent than biased
 
as is my tendency, a couple of years ago I compiled a bunch of stats for a football forum I'm on. Well, not a bunch, just a couple of categories

over a 10 year period, the Pac-12 averaged having 7.8 teams in the bottom-30, in the nation, for number of penalties and penalty yardage. And, IIRC it was 8.7 teams in the bottom 3rd (out of 125-132 teams; maybe it was bottom-half). It was insane looking at the numbers and it clearly demonstrated that Pac-12 officials can't stop blowing their damn whistles. It sure didn't mean that somehow, the Pac-12 had gathered together the most undisciplined 12 teams in the nation

IIRC, I think SI did a study on penalties and found that the Pac-12 officials called something like 80% more pass interference penalties than any other conference. PI being one of the most prone-to-bad-judgement calls there is, and for sure, the Pac-12 has that call on blast. The offensive PI against Terrance Ferguson yesterday was almost as bad as the defensive PI against the Ducks last week

now, being a Duck fan, I agree with you that it seems Oregon has been the victim of more crucial game-turning penalties than any other team. But I usually don't watch every minute of every game not the Ducks. And it sure seems that over the last 2 years I've never seen a team get the benefit of almost every questionable and outright bad call as Washington has. But for the most part, I think Pac-12 officials are a lot more incompetent than biased
I was gonna say…. 80% more PI calls, except for on Washington.
 

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