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How is this Barnes fault ? ---- Simple ... well maybe not simple but

Barnes has J.Smith a Beaver legend walk out on his alma mater and I am sure money was part of it but guessing other things like how the Beavers right now do not even have a conference for next year. However your right Barnes is not the only person to blame whoever has the power over there has to take it too. This is the type of stuff that make the Beavers look like the baby brother to the Ducks and almost makes me think they should drop down a division for a year or 2 just to show them they need to step up or get the F out of Div 1 football.
 
Beavers will be starting a coaching search while they are floating in clouds of uncertainty

the fate of the Pac-2 vs the Pac-10 is locked in a legal limbo. The Pac-10 filings in front of the Washington State Supreme Court telegraphed that the PAC and at least some of the departing 10 teams are willing to fight and their first step would be to file a lawsuit in the State of California if there is an adverse ruling in Washington. I can't say for sure, but what I have read is that the Pac-12 is not a corporation, but rather a legally formed association that is the owner of corporations like the Pac-12 network. And that the laws of California stipulate that the boards of associations are subordinate to actions by members (opposite of corporations). Meaning that the 12 members of the association can overrule any decisions by the board. And the members can vote for dissolution even if the board objects. Again, I'm not sure how accurate or applicable that is, but it was part of the argument the Pac-12 + UofW presented to the Washington Supreme Court; and part of their argument was that the proper venue for a lawsuit filed against the Pac-12 association was California

we've been hearing for months how OSU/WSU were going to sign a scheduling agreement with the MWC, but it hasn't happened yet. For sure it would be a complicated undertaking. How eager would San Diego state be to rearrange their entire schedule so they could travel to a mid-November game in Pullman? And how eager is the MWC to enter into a scheduling agreement with two programs stuck in a legal limbo?

but that's the obstacle OSU will be facing: trying to hire a new coach while having no schedule for the next 5 years. IIRC, making matters worse is that now that Smith has resigned there is an immediate 30 day transfer portal open. The normal transfer portal opens on Dec. 4 and runs thru Jan 2; a 30-day window. But that could mean that right now there is a 40 day window open for OSU players
 
There was NO CHANCE Smith was staying at Oregon State with any decent job offer on the table.

Thats like asking why Klieman left NDSU for K State.
 
Ripcity4life77 said:
How is this Barnes fault ? ---- Simple ... well maybe not simple but

Barnes has J.Smith a Beaver legend walk out on his alma mater and I am sure money was part of it but guessing other things like how the Beavers right now do not even have a conference for next year. However your right Barnes is not the only person to blame whoever has the power over there has to take it too. This is the type of stuff that make the Beavers look like the baby brother to the Ducks and almost makes me think they should drop down a division for a year or 2 just to show them they need to step up or get the F out of Div 1 football.
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From an outsiders perspective: Smith leaving 100% had to do with the dissolving of the Pac12 and OSU being left out of realignment. I don't see how either of those things are Barnes' responsibility. If Barnes had the budget to give Smith $8m/year and retain the assistants, I bet Smith would stay, but that wasn't a reality.
 
Any way this was a mutual decision with OSU and Smith to part ways?

Nothing to do with Smith performance - just no budget to keep a coach at his guaranteed salary with all the other chaos going on.
 
wizenheimer said:
Beavers will be starting a coaching search while they are floating in clouds of uncertainty

the fate of the Pac-2 vs the Pac-10 is locked in a legal limbo. The Pac-10 filings in front of the Washington State Supreme Court telegraphed that the PAC and at least some of the departing 10 teams are willing to fight and their first step would be to file a lawsuit in the State of California if there is an adverse ruling in Washington. I can't say for sure, but what I have read is that the Pac-12 is not a corporation, but rather a legally formed association that is the owner of corporations like the Pac-12 network. And that the laws of California stipulate that the boards of associations are subordinate to actions by members (opposite of corporations). Meaning that the 12 members of the association can overrule any decisions by the board. And the members can vote for dissolution even if the board objects. Again, I'm not sure how accurate or applicable that is, but it was part of the argument the Pac-12 + UofW presented to the Washington Supreme Court; and part of their argument was that the proper venue for a lawsuit filed against the Pac-12 association was California

we've been hearing for months how OSU/WSU were going to sign a scheduling agreement with the MWC, but it hasn't happened yet. For sure it would be a complicated undertaking. How eager would San Diego state be to rearrange their entire schedule so they could travel to a mid-November game in Pullman? And how eager is the MWC to enter into a scheduling agreement with two programs stuck in a legal limbo?

but that's the obstacle OSU will be facing: trying to hire a new coach while having no schedule for the next 5 years. IIRC, making matters worse is that now that Smith has resigned there is an immediate 30 day transfer portal open. The normal transfer portal opens on Dec. 4 and runs thru Jan 2; a 30-day window. But that could mean that right now there is a 40 day window open for OSU players
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I would assume Trent Bray will get a long look
 
SharpesTriumph said:
Any way this was a mutual decision with OSU and Smith to part ways?

Nothing to do with Smith performance - just no budget to keep a coach at his guaranteed salary with all the other chaos going on.
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I don't think it was mutual. Sounds like Barnes was working hard to convince him to stay

but I'm guessing in the dark room off the AD's office there is some relief that the Beavers might be saving 5M next season on coaching salaries
 
Predator said:
I would assume Trent Bray will get a long look
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he's mentioned most as a target. But I'd wonder if he'll go with Smith to MSU and try and springboard from a power-4 assistant to a power-4 HC
 
Tince said:
From an outsiders perspective: Smith leaving 100% had to do with the dissolving of the Pac12 and OSU being left out of realignment. I don't see how either of those things are Barnes' responsibility. If Barnes had the budget to give Smith $8m/year and retain the assistants, I bet Smith would stay, but that wasn't a reality.
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Agreed. If the PAC were sticking together as a a power 5 conference there is no way Smith would be leaving. As long as the Beavs could pay comparable salary.
 
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Where is the loyalty former Beaver coach….where is the loyalty. He had a chance to go down with the ship, but said, “I’m out FAMS!”
Wow, how do you hire a coach and get recruits when you don’t even know where and who you’re playing against. Selling the fact you will play on national TV against tams like UCLA/USC/Oregon is no longer there to draw talent. WOW!
 
Wishing the Beavs the best. Hope they just settle on whatever conference Boise State and Fresno State or Hawaii is in for football.
 
HailBlazers said:
Gee. Thanks.
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FAMS! That’s your BEST option! All this is a mess. Had WSU and OSU been attractive to other conference they would have already been invited and they would have most DEFINITELY accepted. Coach saw what was coming and did just that. Sad for the program. Just really hope they land on their hooves….or feet….or whatever Beavs have.
 
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Smith doing a lot of raiding....probably not a big deal as the new HC would likely want his own guys anyway

Beaver fans seem to want Trent Bray to step up to HC. I'm wondering, if he was interested in staying, why wasn't he named the coach for the bowl game?
 
I've always rooted for the Ducks over the Beavs, but mostly I'm a fan of all sports teams from our state being good. I think both Oregon and OSU being good helps both schools. I have HATED what has happened these past few months. OSU deserves so much better than this.
 
maxiep said:
I've always rooted for the Ducks over the Beavs, but mostly I'm a fan of all sports teams from our state being good. I think both Oregon and OSU being good helps both schools. I have HATED what has happened these past few months. OSU deserves so much better than this.
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Agree with all of this 100%
 
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