PATTERSON BIG SHOW INTERVIEW

[Sug]

Saying he would take Durant when 29 other BASKETBALL PEOPLE around the league would have taken Oden makes him look like a joke who loves playing the victim role.

I will state this again, there were only 2 GMs that were truly in the position to potentially make that decision. The other 28 probably didn't spend/waste much time looking over Oden's health records, interviewing the OSU trainers/coaches, and at the end of the day have to make the actual decision. For instance, if the Suns had that pick with their training staff, there is a good chance Durant would have been the pick. Simply looking at the sad state of our training/medical staff over the last three seasons I think it is clear to say we are way behind the times. I hope the next GM does for our training & medical staff what KP did for scouting and player evaluation. If that happens we are a top organization, but currently we are using blood letting and leaches to solve medical issues.

 

[alex42083]

I don't know if it's all true either, but a lot of it sounds plausible.

Yeah, it all sounds plausible, but of course, I'm sure Patterson wants to make himself look good out of all this. And if you ask KP the same questions, he'd probably come with a different story. Who knows what's true, but it's interesting stuff nonetheless.

 

[illmatic99]

Thanks for the transcript, Alex.

 

[Pinwheel1]

2006 according to Patterson: Patterson traded for Roy and LMA, Gabriel accumulated all the second round draft picks, KP's contribution was....... Sergio

He and Quick need to be on at he same time. LOL

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

Patterson:
- Doctors tagged Miles' knees as having 18 months tops.
- He was told to get the Miles' long-term deal done, even though he didn't want to.

Is he saying that before the Blazers inked him to that contract that the doctors said he only had 18 months on his knees????

 

[alex42083]

Is he saying that before the Blazers inked him to that contract that the doctors said he only had 18 months on his knees????

Yeah, I think that's what Patterson said. He was ordered from up top to get the deal done, even though he had his reservations about it -- at least, according to him. He wanted to give Darius a one-year contract to see how he would behave off the court as well as see how his knees would hold up. But he was told to give Miles that dumbass contract.

 

[illmatic99]

2006 according to Patterson: Patterson traded for Roy and LMA, Gabriel accumulated all the second round draft picks, KP's contribution was....... Sergio

He and Quick need to be on at he same time. LOL

He carefully constructed his statements to say that he "made the calls to the other GMs." If my intuition about Patterson's slimy attitude is to be believed, I think that is the extent of his work in the 06 draft.

KP's scouting team was in charge of identifying the talent.

On a sidenote, all the FIRE KP people keep citing his supposed penchant for the limelight and how he supposedly took credit away from everyone. But he never went on a show like Patterson just did to try to get credit for himself. And whenever he has spoken of a success story, he has always given credit to his scouting team. Considering how loyal both Buchanan and Born were yesterday in calling KP an "inspirational leader, considering the circumstances," I think way too much undesereved bullshit has be swiped towards KP.

 

[mook]

- Patterson would've drafted Durant.

I've been really interested in this interview, and find myself willing to admit that KP might've been very overhyped. But it's horseshit to say this. Come on, you really expect me to believe you would've passed on Oden? It just sounds too self-serving, even if true.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Nash wanted Telfair and won out, and Webster was pure Allen who fell in love with him after a workout ... you keep forgetting that this is an organizational decision; there are factions that favor certain guys over others.

This.


I actually spoke with Steve Patterson about a week before the 2007 NBA draft, and he said, then, that he would take Durant. He called him the next big thing. I loved Oden as well, but there is no way you don't draft Durant.

 

[BGrantFan]

KP has explicitly said: "When I first saw Roy at the predraft workouts, I knew he was ours."

Patterson might have made the call to the other teams, but the scouting and personnel decisions were made by KP.

Quick reported this morning that Pritchard negotiated those deals and Patterson was on the phone to close them.

 

[Mediocre Man]

2006 according to Patterson: Patterson traded for Roy and LMA, Gabriel accumulated all the second round draft picks, KP's contribution was....... Sergio

He and Quick need to be on at he same time. LOL

Gabriel is a name I keep thinking about as a potential replacement for KP. I heard the same thing Patterson just said from my uncle.

 

[Sug]

He carefully constructed his statements to say that he "made the calls to the other GMs." If my intuition about Patterson's slimy attitude is to be believed, I think that is the extent of his work in the 06 draft.

KP's scouting team was in charge of identifying the talent.

On a sidenote, all the FIRE KP people keep citing his supposed penchant for the limelight and how he supposedly took credit away from everyone. But he never went on a show like Patterson just did to try to get credit for himself. And whenever he has spoken of a success story, he has always given credit to his scouting team. Considering how loyal both Buchanan and Born were yesterday in calling KP an "inspirational leader, considering the circumstances," I think way too much undesereved bullshit has be swiped towards KP.

You're right KP never went on and took credit, but he certainly knew he was getting it and never went out of his way to down play it.

 

[alex42083]

I've been really interested in this interview, and find myself willing to admit that KP might've been very overhyped. But it's horseshit to say this. Come on, you really expect me to believe you would've passed on Oden? It just sounds too self-serving, even if true.

Yeah, that's the one thing that stood out to me, and made me pause to think "Hmm, is what everything Patterson saying true?"

 

[Sug]

Quick reported this morning that Pritchard negotiated those deals and Patterson was on the phone to close them.

One was in the room with the title of GM, the other believed that Marc was the next coach of the Blazers. Quick has been played like a bitch during this whole ordeal by KP's agent.

 

[illmatic99]

You're right KP never went on and took credit, but he certainly knew he was getting it and never went out of his way to down play it.

There is absolutely no reason for him to do so.

 

[BGrantFan]

Yeah, I think that's what Patterson said. He was ordered from up top to get the deal done, even though he had his reservations about it -- at least, according to him. He wanted to give Darius a one-year contract to see how he would behave off the court as well as see how his knees would hold up. But he was told to give Miles that dumbass contract.

If that's the case, then Patterson was merely a Yes Man himself who is now seeking to recraft his image as something other than an incompetent boob. He should have raised Holy Hell about that contract with Paul Allen instead of looking down at his toes, shuffling his feet, and signing a guy he claims he knew was injured. Of course then, he'd have been on Allen's "bad side" and would be fired. Oh, wait...

 

[BGrantFan]

This.


I actually spoke with Steve Patterson about a week before the 2007 NBA draft, and he said, then, that he would take Durant. He called him the next big thing. I loved Oden as well, but there is no way you don't draft Durant.

Did you post about this "conversation" on any Blazer board? I'd be interested in seeing that link. If not, I don't believe a word you're saying.

 

[Nikolokolus]

He carefully constructed his statements to say that he "made the calls to the other GMs." If my intuition about Patterson's slimy attitude is to be believed, I think that is the extent of his work in the 06 draft.

KP's scouting team was in charge of identifying the talent.

On a sidenote, all the FIRE KP people keep citing his supposed penchant for the limelight and how he supposedly took credit away from everyone. But he never went on a show like Patterson just did to try to get credit for himself. And whenever he has spoken of a success story, he has always given credit to his scouting team. Considering how loyal both Buchanan and Born were yesterday in calling KP an "inspirational leader, considering the circumstances," I think way too much undesereved bullshit has be swiped towards KP.

That's the purest form of confirmation bias I've ever seen around here. You think he's slimy, ergo you think he wasn't responsible for any of the team's success.

Look, I think KP did a pretty good job (Nic Batum was all his doing after all) but I just think there's been too much blame given to certain individuals and too much credit to others when the truth is likely somewhere in between.

 

[BGrantFan]

Is this the same Steve Patterson who flat-out lied about paying Darius Miles' fine after Miles went off on Mo Cheeks? Didn't he call Canzano a liar for reporting it, and then had to eat crow once Canzano came up with the actual document? That Steve Patterson? Yeah, he's real credible.

 

[illmatic99]

That's the purest form of confirmation bias I've ever seen around here. You think he's slimy, ergo you think he wasn't responsible for any of the team's success.

That's not what I said at all. And making calls to GMs is definitely a job that requires credit.

And I find it interesting that you keep harping about how KP gets too much credit, but fail to acknowledge that Patterson was the one explicitly seeking it during this morning's interview.

 

[illmatic99]

Is this the same Steve Patterson who flat-out lied about paying Darius Miles' fine after Miles went off on Mo Cheeks? Didn't he call Canzano a liar for reporting it, and then had to eat crow once Canzano came up with the actual document? That Steve Patterson? Yeah, he's real credible.

Yes.

 

[BoBoBREWSKI]

The title of this thread needs to be changed because the pathetic "Big Show" on The Fan shouldnt be getting any credit for this interview.

Podcasts - scroll down, right side of page.
http://www.955thegame.com/pages/6030220.php

 

[BGrantFan]

The title of this thread needs to be changed because the pathetic "Big Show" on The Fan shouldnt be getting any credit for this interview.

Podcasts - scroll down, right side of page.
http://www.955thegame.com/pages/6030220.php

Patterson gave basically the same thoughts while spending 2 hours on The Fan last night during the first round. The Fan info was actually more in-depth and less self-serving as it was more focused on how dysfunctional the Vulcan organization is.

 

[Nikolokolus]

That's not what I said at all. And making calls to GMs is definitely a job that requires credit.

And I find it interesting that you keep harping about how KP gets too much credit, but fail to acknowledge that Patterson was the one explicitly seeking it during this morning's interview.

Jaynes asked him point blank who made the deals on draft day in 2006, he answered those questions. Maybe he's lying, maybe he's not, I just find it interesting that there's some discrepancy between public perception that it was all KP orchestrating the deals (mostly from Quick) and now maybe he wasn't.

 

[BGrantFan]

Jaynes asked him point blank who made the deals on draft day in 2006, he answered those questions. Maybe he's lying, maybe he's not, I just find it interesting that there's some discrepancy between public perception that it was all KP orchestrating the deals (mostly from Quick) and now maybe he wasn't.

Steve Patterson is a known liar. See my post on the Miles debacle where Canzano commited "erroneous subterfuge" for telling the truth about Patterson paying for Miles' suspension.

Spin that one.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Steve Patterson is a known liar. See my post on the Miles debacle where Canzano commited "erroneous subterfuge" for telling the truth about Patterson paying for Miles' suspension.

Spin that one.

Spin what? I just find it interesting that we're getting a different take on what happened. I make no claims that Patterson is absolutely telling the truth, I just like that we're hearing a different perspective.

 

[illmatic99]

Spin what? I just find it interesting that we're getting a different take on what happened. I make no claims that Patterson is absolutely telling the truth, I just like that we're hearing a different perspective.

The whole bit about the 06 draft made it seem like he tried to downplay KP's role in it.

"I made the phone calls to Danny Ainge. I sat with Paxson and talked about that deal. Oh, and KP made the Sergio deal."

Doesn't that seem slimy to you? It was in fact KP and his scouting team that identified the talent in the first place.

 

[Pinwheel1]

The whole bit about the 06 draft made it seem like he tried to downplay KP's role in it.

"I made the phone calls to Danny Ainge. I sat with Paxson and talked about that deal. Oh, and KP made the Sergio deal."

Doesn't that seem slimy to you? It was in fact KP and his scouting team that identified the talent in the first place.

I think he implied he had been talking to Ainge for a month

 

[Mediocre Man]

Did you post about this "conversation" on any Blazer board? I'd be interested in seeing that link. If not, I don't believe a word you're saying.

I think I probably did??? I honestly don't know if it was this one or the former Blazer board either?


And I couldn't give a fuck if you believe me or not.

 

[BGrantFan]

I think I probably did??? I honestly don't know if it was this one or the former Blazer board either?


And I couldn't give a fuck if you believe me or not.

That's the spirit!