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This could be the best Whiteside move out their for Portland:

DAL Gets: Hassan Whiteside
POR Gets: Dwight Powell, Courtney Lee, 2020 GSW 2nd (via DAL), 2020 UTA 2nd (via DAL)

That GSW 2nd is going to be between 31-34. Powell is a very good backup C who has 4 years on his deal for $10M a year, and Lee is an expiring contract. Portland could try to work out a 3-team trade by essentially redirecting Lee along with Bazemore, and that 2nd round pick could be useful as an asset. This could be useful for any number of big targets, but here's some examples:

DAL Gets: Hassan Whiteside, Anthony Tolliver, Mario Hezonja
POR Gets: Dwight Powell, Blake Griffin, Derrick Rose, Tony Snell,
DET Gets: Kent Bazemore, Courtney Lee, Gary Trent Jr, 2020 POR 1st, 2020 GSW and UTA 2nds (via DAL), $11.4M TPE (Snell), $7.3M TPE (Rose)

Lillard / Rose
McCollum / Rose
Melo / Snell
Girffin / Collins* / Skal / Melo
Nurkic* / Powell / Skal

Or Portland could do the following trade and possibly keep the 2nds from Dallas:

DAL Gets: Hassan Whiteside, Mario Hezonja, Anthony Tolliver
POR Gets: Otto Porter Jr, Dwight Powell, 2020 GSW 2nd, 2020 UTA 2nd
CHI Gets: Courtnee Lee, $14.5M TPE

I think that one is my favorite. Chicago might want to move off of Otto Porter's contract for nothing, and getting back a traded player exception as big as that could be enticing enough to do that trade. If not, Portland has three 2020 2nds (Golden State's, Utah's, and their own) to entice Chicago. They'd get a Whiteside replacement who would be great off the bench in Powell, their starting SF, some early 2nds, and keep Bazemore in the process (or they could turn around and use Baze in another trade along with some of their 2020 2nd round picks).

Lillard / Simons
McCollum / Trent
Porter / Bazemore
Collins* / Melo / Skal
Nurkic* / Powell / Skal

Plus something like the 18th pick, 33rd pick, 48th pick, and 51st pick in this year's upcoming draft.
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I wonder if a package of Baze&Trent+1st could interest the T-Wolves for RoCo (obviously the salaries don’t match so filler would be needed).
 
BonesJones said:
This could be the best Whiteside move out their for Portland:

DAL Gets: Hassan Whiteside
POR Gets: Dwight Powell, Courtney Lee, 2020 GSW 2nd (via DAL), 2020 UTA 2nd (via DAL)

That GSW 2nd is going to be between 31-34. Powell is a very good backup C who has 4 years on his deal for $10M a year, and Lee is an expiring contract. Portland could try to work out a 3-team trade by essentially redirecting Lee along with Bazemore, and that 2nd round pick could be useful as an asset. This could be useful for any number of big targets, but here's some examples:

DAL Gets: Hassan Whiteside, Anthony Tolliver, Mario Hezonja
POR Gets: Dwight Powell, Blake Griffin, Derrick Rose, Tony Snell,
DET Gets: Kent Bazemore, Courtney Lee, Gary Trent Jr, 2020 POR 1st, 2020 GSW and UTA 2nds (via DAL), $11.4M TPE (Snell), $7.3M TPE (Rose)

Lillard / Rose
McCollum / Rose
Melo / Snell
Girffin / Collins* / Skal / Melo
Nurkic* / Powell / Skal

Or Portland could do the following trade and possibly keep the 2nds from Dallas:

DAL Gets: Hassan Whiteside, Mario Hezonja, Anthony Tolliver
POR Gets: Otto Porter Jr, Dwight Powell, 2020 GSW 2nd, 2020 UTA 2nd
CHI Gets: Courtnee Lee, $14.5M TPE

I think that one is my favorite. Chicago might want to move off of Otto Porter's contract for nothing, and getting back a traded player exception as big as that could be enticing enough to do that trade. If not, Portland has three 2020 2nds (Golden State's, Utah's, and their own) to entice Chicago. They'd get a Whiteside replacement who would be great off the bench in Powell, their starting SF, some early 2nds, and keep Bazemore in the process (or they could turn around and use Baze in another trade along with some of their 2020 2nd round picks).

Lillard / Simons
McCollum / Trent
Porter / Bazemore
Collins* / Melo / Skal
Nurkic* / Powell / Skal

Plus something like the 18th pick, 33rd pick, 48th pick, and 51st pick in this year's upcoming draft.
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Follow up trade to this could be Bazemore and Utah's 2nd for Rose and Snell.

Lillard / Rose
McCollum / Rose
Porter / Snell
Collins* / Melo / Skal
Nurkic* / Powell / Skal
 
GhostOfPGA said:
I wonder if a package of Baze&Trent+1st could interest the T-Wolves for RoCo (obviously the salaries don’t match so filler would be needed).
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They'd essentially have to trade us Dieng back, which we'd have to include Tolliver or Hezonja to take on.

In that case though, I don't think I'd want to give up a 1st. Baze+Trent+Hezonja+2nd (or two) for RoCo+Dieng
 
BonesJones said:
They'd essentially have to trade us Dieng back, which we'd have to include Tolliver or Hezonja to take on.

In that case though, I don't think I'd want to give up a 1st. Baze+Trent+Hezonja+2nd (or two) for RoCo+Dieng
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I think if we don’t add a first, they would want Nas in Trent’s place.
 
GhostOfPGA said:
What do you guys think of Kuzma?

He’s not really fitting in with what the Lakers are doing. I think he’s really talented.
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I like him but I don’t think there’s a match trade wise.
 
The more the team wins the lower the odds of any major trade. Instead we’ll see something similar to the Hood trade. That would mean both Baze and Whiteside stay put and guys like Tolliver and Hezonja get packaged off.

Denzel Valentine
Markieff Morris
Alec Burks
Glenn Robinson

guys like that. Nothing sexy but should upgrade the bench.
 
Scalma said:
The more the team wins the lower the odds of any major trade. Instead we’ll see something similar to the Hood trade. That would mean both Baze and Whiteside stay put and guys like Tolliver and Hezonja get packaged off.

Denzel Valentine
Markieff Morris
Alec Burks
Glenn Robinson

guys like that. Nothing sexy but should upgrade the bench.
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And we'll piss away any chance of a big win now trade in the next 3 years in the process.
 
IF they don't trade Baze and Whiteside they both walk at the end of the year and we have no salary space to sign realistic replacements. They both need traded for the future. I would rather win for years then go all in this year and be screwed for the next several years.
 
twobullz said:
IF they don't trade Baze and Whiteside they both walk at the end of the year and we have no salary space to sign realistic replacements. They both need traded for the future. I would rather win for years then go all in this year and be screwed for the next several years.
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We would have Bazemore and Whitesides bird rights so we could theoretically sign one or both in the off season as well. With their large contracts we would have to take back similar contracts in size in trades for them. Depending on what players may be available the best move could still be to not make a trade. Not many teams will have much if any cap space next year so a sign and trade is always a possibility as well in the off season.
 
CupWizier said:
We would have Bazemore and Whitesides bird rights so we could theoretically sign one or both in the off season as well. With their large contracts we would have to take back similar contracts in size in trades for them. Depending on what players may be available the best move could still be to not make a trade. Not many teams will have much if any cap space next year so a sign and trade is always a possibility as well in the off season.
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I agree. The Blazers aren't going to wallow this deep into Luxury Tax territory indefinitely. I could see a trade involving one of them, but not both. The Blazers are going to want to let some air out of their Team Salary by letting one of them walk or, hopefully, re-sign here next summer at a much lower number. Bazemore for sure isn't going to see an $18M contract again. In today's market for big men, I doubt anybody pays Whiteside anywhere close to the money he's making this season either.
 
CupWizier said:
We would have Bazemore and Whitesides bird rights so we could theoretically sign one or both in the off season as well. With their large contracts we would have to take back similar contracts in size in trades for them. Depending on what players may be available the best move could still be to not make a trade. Not many teams will have much if any cap space next year so a sign and trade is always a possibility as well in the off season.
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Where did you see that reported? I was under the impression that most teams will have a fair amount of cap space. Or at least there is more cap space projected than quality FA to spend it on (meaning several arginal players are going to get significantly overpaid).
 
tester551 said:
Where did you see that reported? I was under the impression that most teams will have a fair amount of cap space. Or at least there is more cap space projected than quality FA to spend it on (meaning several arginal players are going to get significantly overpaid).
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17 teams are currently near, at or over next years projected salary cap and other teams have decisions to make on their own free agents to determine what if any cap space they may have. Guys like Whiteside and Bazemore aren't likely to draw big dollar offers and their time here could make them lean towards Portland for a lesser rate, It's just an opinion and only time will tell which direction teams will go and what the players are looking for.
 
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cc...re-kevin-love-make-this-genius-trade-instead/

Trade rumors connect the Trail Blazers to Kevin Love, but Portland should target a different stretch-4 instead. Here's who - and why

  • The Trail Blazers are looking to shake off a slow start to the season.

  • They’re a rumored landing spot for Kevin Love, who grew up near Portland.

  • Oklahoma City Thunder forward Danilo Gallinari would be a far better fit for the Blazers.
 
Gallinari is completely pointless with Melo around, as they can’t play together.
 
You know who I think could use Portland and vice versa? And I don’t know how they’d swing it financially or if he’s even on the block, I’m just talking pure basketball.

Lonzo Ball.
 
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Sounds like a match to me. Portland gives the Warriors some tax relief, without sending any money back, and an open roster spot. Portland gets a wing to help replace Hood/upgrade the bench.
 
Scalma said:
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Sounds like a match to me. Portland gives the Warriors some tax relief, without sending any money back, and an open roster spot. Portland gets a wing to help replace Hood/upgrade the bench.
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I wouldn't be against that. I probably wouldn't give up more than a late 2nd though.
 
Scalma said:
You know who I think could use Portland and vice versa? And I don’t know how they’d swing it financially or if he’s even on the block, I’m just talking pure basketball.

Lonzo Ball.
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If he weren't so plagued by injuries I would agree.
 
Since we mention him many times as a potential trade target Blake Griffin seems really done this season. Like something is really wrong with him.
 
POR Gets: Tony Snell, Markieff Morris, Larry Nance Jr
CLE Gets: Hassan Whiteside, Future DET 2nd
DET Gets: Tristan Thompson

POR Gets: Marcus Morris
NYK Gets: Kent Bazemore, 2022 POR 2nd
 
BonesJones said:
This could be the best Whiteside move out their for Portland:

DAL Gets: Hassan Whiteside
POR Gets: Dwight Powell, Courtney Lee, 2020 GSW 2nd (via DAL), 2020 UTA 2nd (via DAL)

That GSW 2nd is going to be between 31-34. Powell is a very good backup C who has 4 years on his deal for $10M a year, and Lee is an expiring contract. Portland could try to work out a 3-team trade by essentially redirecting Lee along with Bazemore, and that 2nd round pick could be useful as an asset. This could be useful for any number of big targets, but here's some examples:

DAL Gets: Hassan Whiteside, Anthony Tolliver, Mario Hezonja
POR Gets: Dwight Powell, Blake Griffin, Derrick Rose, Tony Snell,
DET Gets: Kent Bazemore, Courtney Lee, Gary Trent Jr, 2020 POR 1st, 2020 GSW and UTA 2nds (via DAL), $11.4M TPE (Snell), $7.3M TPE (Rose)

Lillard / Rose
McCollum / Rose
Melo / Snell
Girffin / Collins* / Skal / Melo
Nurkic* / Powell / Skal

Or Portland could do the following trade and possibly keep the 2nds from Dallas:

DAL Gets: Hassan Whiteside, Mario Hezonja, Anthony Tolliver
POR Gets: Otto Porter Jr, Dwight Powell, 2020 GSW 2nd, 2020 UTA 2nd
CHI Gets: Courtnee Lee, $14.5M TPE

I think that one is my favorite. Chicago might want to move off of Otto Porter's contract for nothing, and getting back a traded player exception as big as that could be enticing enough to do that trade. If not, Portland has three 2020 2nds (Golden State's, Utah's, and their own) to entice Chicago. They'd get a Whiteside replacement who would be great off the bench in Powell, their starting SF, some early 2nds, and keep Bazemore in the process (or they could turn around and use Baze in another trade along with some of their 2020 2nd round picks).

Lillard / Simons
McCollum / Trent
Porter / Bazemore
Collins* / Melo / Skal
Nurkic* / Powell / Skal

Plus something like the 18th pick, 33rd pick, 48th pick, and 51st pick in this year's upcoming draft.
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I don't see why Dallas is giving up assets for an expiring contract. Their window is in the next few years.
 
e_blazer said:
I agree. The Blazers aren't going to wallow this deep into Luxury Tax territory indefinitely. I could see a trade involving one of them, but not both. The Blazers are going to want to let some air out of their Team Salary by letting one of them walk or, hopefully, re-sign here next summer at a much lower number. Bazemore for sure isn't going to see an $18M contract again. In today's market for big men, I doubt anybody pays Whiteside anywhere close to the money he's making this season either.
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Agreed. Hanging onto them has value.

Hey if we could flip them for a first round pick I'd certainly do it. They just dont have that much value. No trade is better than some overpaid player on the cap for a few years.
 
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