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After the way Game 5 went, I thought they might sit Roy out for Game 6. But that's not what Roy wants. On the radio after the game, Brandon said he wants more touches and he wants to start. I'm cool with that. Our star wants to take charge. Let's let him do it. I truly believe we'll win Game 6. It's game 7 that I'm worried about.
 
Start him give all of Rudy's minutes to Bayless and if we cant rebound again for gods sakes put in Pendagraph.
 
Start him give all of Rudy's minutes to Bayless and if we cant rebound again for gods sakes put in Pendagraph.

THIS. I think Pendergraph should get some minutes. He's huge, he can rebound, block shots, and can finish at the rim. Give him 10 minutes if Camby and/or Howard are in foul trouble.
 
Roy has done nothing this post season to show he deserves to play, much less start. Portland has 0 chance of winning a title this year, so IMO he should sit until next year
 
I appreciate the fact that Roy is a gamer, but he was quite possibly the second worst player on the court last night (eclipsed only by Rudy)
 
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Roy never really had a chance to get going due to foul trouble. The key to game 6 and game 7 (yes I think there will be one) is going to be rebounding. We can't let them get so many offensive boards...
 
On the radio after the game, Brandon said he wants more touches and he wants to start.
For God's sake, it wasn't a lack of "touches." Everytime Roy touched the ball he threw it away or missed a shot. The guy is clearly not himself, and he probably never should have played at all in this series.
 
No doubt Roy will start Game 6. It will also help pump up the crowd when he's announced in the starting line up.

Bench Rudy and give all his minutes to BATUM!
 
Roy never really had a chance to get going due to foul trouble. The key to game 6 and game 7 (yes I think there will be one) is going to be rebounding. We can't let them get so many offensive boards...

I agree.
 
Roy never really had a chance to get going due to foul trouble. The key to game 6 and game 7 (yes I think there will be one) is going to be rebounding. We can't let them get so many offensive boards...

The reason he was in foul trouble is because he can't move. He can't play real defense, and has to hack and reach.

I admire Roy's heart and attempt to play, but last night his defense (lack of) really hurt us, and I don't think his offensive threat made up for it. You can see he can't move laterally with any quickness, and anytime a Phoenix player had an iso on him, it was a bad result.
 
^^ Knee pain, Knee mobility issues, or conditioning?

and the only thing he is going to start doing, is packing for home, if the same effort comes for game 6 as it did for game 5.
 
If he wants to start, start him. Getting him back & as close to 100% as possible gives us our best chance at winning game 7. If we lose "because" of Roy, well, I guess I can live with that.
 
For God's sake, it wasn't a lack of "touches." Everytime Roy touched the ball he threw it away or missed a shot. The guy is clearly not himself, and he probably never should have played at all in this series.

You might want to change your avatar before saying things like that.
 
Roy will be MUCH better in game 6. He gets an extra day of rest and he didn't play all that much in game 5 anyway. I look for him to have a break-out game.
 
Roy will be MUCH better in game 6. He gets an extra day of rest and he didn't play all that much in game 5 anyway. I look for him to have a break-out game.

Problem with this scenario is that he's playing on an injury that keeps players out for a month minimum.
 
Roy will be MUCH better in game 6. He gets an extra day of rest and he didn't play all that much in game 5 anyway. I look for him to have a break-out game.

I certainly hope so, because he was an iso(re) in game 5.
 
Roy has done nothing this post season to show he deserves to play, much less start. Portland has 0 chance of winning a title this year, so IMO he should sit until next year

Well, other than to hit a 3 to put Portland up by 6 with 4 minutes left of Game 4, and also hitting a pull-up jumper to put us up by 8 with 2 minutes left.
 
Seems like the way we started the game was not the problem...

Well, I wasn't particularly happy that all of the outside shots were going in, because I figured that they would stay with this, which is the Suns' game. Attacking the rim was what won Game 4. That didn't happen at all last night. I actually thought the start, while great in terms of getting a lead, would catch up to them. Start Roy in Game 6 and have he and Miller attack the rim early in the game.
 
Whatever is needed to ensure Rudy never touches the court IMO. We absolutely cannot afford to have Rudy play next game, not one minute. In this last game, he came in and we went down by 10. Then in the second half, we had it down to 8, he comes in and were down by 18 in about 2 mintutes, with Rudy on the receiving end of a bunch of bad play. Totally lost on defense. No clue on offense. We cannot afford missed 3's vs PHX.
 
Whatever is needed to ensure Rudy never touches the court IMO. We absolutely cannot afford to have Rudy play next game, not one minute. In this last game, he came in and we went down by 10. Then in the second half, we had it down to 8, he comes in and were down by 18 in about 2 mintutes, with Rudy on the receiving end of a bunch of bad play. Totally lost on defense. No clue on offense. We cannot afford missed 3's vs PHX.

I agree. Rudy is a lost cause. His confidence is shot. I don't see any reason giving him minutes. Rotate Bayless/Miller/Roy heavy minutes, deactivate Rudy, and have Diener available. I'm not sure Rudy could play in the NBDL right now.
 
Problem with this scenario is that he's playing on an injury that keeps players out for a month minimum.

You wanna know what the problem was? He was playing SF. He sucks as a SF. The SF in Nate's plays stand out on the perimeter and wait for the SG/PG to make something happen, and on defense, he's stuck guarding their larger SF instead of their SG. Roy sucked at this position when Nate was running the three-guard lineup at the beginning of the season, and he sucked at it last night. It's a bad place for Roy to be. Start him for Game 6 and you'll see a better Roy.
 
Roy needs to play better if he wants more minutes. He doesn't look ready. Hopefully that changes in game 6,but based on games 4 and 5, I really don't like what I've seen.
 
Well, other than to hit a 3 to put Portland up by 6 with 4 minutes left of Game 4, and also hitting a pull-up jumper to put us up by 8 with 2 minutes left.

This is a game called "Who has a thread saying he should be bannished, and who has one where posters say he should start."

1. 20.2 mpg
2. 23.0 mpg

1. .333 fg%
2. .353 fg%

1. .353 3pt%
2. .250 3pt%

1. .833 ft%
2. .500 ft%

1. 1.4 apg
2. 0.5 apg

1. 1.6 rpg
2. 1.0 rpg

1. 0.2 spg
2. 0.0 spg

1. 0.8 topg
2. 0.5 topg

1. 5.0 ppg
2. 7.5 ppg

1. 7.13 PER
2. 3.25 PER
 
Roy needs to play better if he wants more minutes. He doesn't look ready. Hopefully that changes in game 6,but based on games 4 and 5, I really don't like what I've seen.

Thanks Coach.

Meanwhile, Roy is going to get his minutes on Thursday, and if he plays well people like you will cheer him and call him a warrior who just wants to win. If he plays poorly, people like you will say he shouldn't have played at all, and some will say it is proof that he is selfish and only cares about himself.

I'll just watch the game and enjoy it, either way.
 
This is a game called "Who has a thread saying he should be bannished, and who has one where posters say he should start."

1. 20.2 mpg
2. 23.0 mpg

1. .333 fg%
2. .353 fg%

1. .353 3pt%
2. .250 3pt%

1. .833 ft%
2. .500 ft%

1. 1.4 apg
2. 0.5 apg

1. 1.6 rpg
2. 1.0 rpg

1. 0.2 spg
2. 0.0 spg

1. 0.8 topg
2. 0.5 topg

1. 5.0 ppg
2. 7.5 ppg

1. 7.13 PER
2. 3.25 PER

So ... he didn't hit those shots at the end of Game 4?
 
Thanks Coach.

Meanwhile, Roy is going to get his minutes on Thursday, and if he plays well people like you will cheer him and call him a warrior who just wants to win. If he plays poorly, people like you will say he shouldn't have played at all, and some will say it is proof that he is selfish and only cares about himself.

I'll just watch the game and enjoy it, either way.

You do that.
 
You wanna know what the problem was? He was playing SF. He sucks as a SF. The SF in Nate's plays stand out on the perimeter and wait for the SG/PG to make something happen, and on defense, he's stuck guarding their larger SF instead of their SG. Roy sucked at this position when Nate was running the three-guard lineup at the beginning of the season, and he sucked at it last night. It's a bad place for Roy to be. Start him for Game 6 and you'll see a better Roy.

The reason he's @ SF is because of his knee injury. No way he can play SG defensively right now, he's get burnt. The guy doesn't have the same explosiveness and lateral quickness right now to be the same SG Portland knows. You can't have Roy guarding Barbosa or J-Rich when he's in or else he's going to use 6 fouls trying to prevent lay-ups right now. Offensively, it is probably better he is in the corner as he's a good shooter and can't really be the workhorse you expect.
 
Playing Rudy at SF is a bad deal too..... Rudy HAS to get better...
 

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