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THE HCP said:
Did you believe he was going to “contribute” this season? I damn sure didn’t. I like what I see and there are some things I don’t. But I remind myself he’s so young. I think he is going to be a solid player. I think the people who are disappointed were the ones on here starting threads after the draft about how now that we have a HOF PG again, we should trade Ant.
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We should definitely trade Ant if we can get fair value at another position.

But yeah, I didn't expect much from Scoot. He'll be good. He's just young.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Playing with the G League isn't going to help him. He needs reps at the top level.
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The bench role has been good for Scoot. He was getting abused and destroyed as a starter which is not just bad for the team but bad for Scoots development. A bench role is perfect, he can play more or less depending on his effectiveness. I expect the same next season.

He'll either greatly improve in the years ahead or not. I don't see Gleague or starting helping him with that.

If the Blazers were trying to win now Scoot as a ineffective backup could be a concern. For this and next season it's irrelevant.
 
SharpesTriumph said:
The bench role has been good for Scoot. He was getting abused and destroyed as a starter which is not just bad for the team but bad for Scoots development. A bench role is perfect, he can play more or less depending on his effectiveness. I expect the same next season.

He'll either greatly improve in the years ahead or not. I don't see Gleague or starting helping him with that.

If the Blazers were trying to win now Scoot as a ineffective backup could be a concern. For this and next season it's irrelevant.
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My issue is that he has already shown that he can play well in the G League. I don't see any real benefit from having him go back down. Unless his confidence is shot, which I don't think it is.

He needs the reps at the top level and that's the only way he's either going to improve or not.
 
SharpesTriumph said:
It's not just that he hasn't contributed, most rookies have major faults and can be a net negative. But Scoot has been so bad he doesn't even belong close to an NBA roster right now. If he was 29 he wouldn't be in the league.

No, I didn't expect this poor of a performance from the 3rd pick being labelled as a #1 overall pick level talent. Players like Kyrie, DRose, Westbrook, Wall, Morant, etc all had vastly superior rookie seasons.

It's not like the Blazers are making a playoff push and have a bunch of vets taking his opportunities. The team started him game 1 until a few weeks in it was so stunningly obvious he was failing he had to be moved to the bench.

If there was a redraft I'm not sure Scoot would be taken in the top10.

Doesn't mean he can't improve greatly next year or seasons after. But this rookie year was a massive disappointment.
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You lost me at how he doesn’t even belong on an NBA roster. Sorry FAMS, I STRONGLY disagree.
 
THE HCP said:
You lost me at how he doesn’t even belong on an NBA roster. Sorry FAMS, I STRONGLY disagree.
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You left out the "IF HE WAS 29" part.

Shooting 37% FG and 29% 3..... single digit PER and negative on BPM/winshare/etc.... thats just not an NBA roster level player.

Scoot was a 19 year old rookie so of course should be on a roster now. He needs to improve a lot to become just an average NBA player - let alone the hope of the #3 elite pick he was projected as. Not sure how any rational Blazer fan can happily say his performance so far has happily meet their predraft expectations of this guy.
 
I was hoping for a 13pts/4-5 assists for his first season. I thought the shooting would be a bit better and this disappoint me a little.

Higher expectations for a 19 yo rookie point guard were delusional
 
SharpesTriumph said:
You left out the "IF HE WAS 29" part.

Shooting 37% FG and 29% 3..... single digit PER and negative on BPM/winshare/etc.... thats just not an NBA roster level player.

Scoot was a 19 year old rookie so of course should be on a roster now. He needs to improve a lot to become just an average NBA player - let alone the hope of the #3 elite pick he was projected as. Not sure how any rational Blazer fan can happily say his performance so far has happily meet their predraft expectations of this guy.
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“Happily meet” or “realistically meet”?
Not sure who thought he’d come into the league and be “elite” from the get go.
Keep being upset about him if it helps you get thru these games.
I’m looking for glimpses of what he COULD be.
 
SharpesTriumph said:
You left out the "IF HE WAS 29" part.

Shooting 37% FG and 29% 3..... single digit PER and negative on BPM/winshare/etc.... thats just not an NBA roster level player.

Scoot was a 19 year old rookie so of course should be on a roster now. He needs to improve a lot to become just an average NBA player - let alone the hope of the #3 elite pick he was projected as. Not sure how any rational Blazer fan can happily say his performance so far has happily meet their predraft expectations of this guy.
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You just be a numbers guy then. I grew up playing with some dudes that went into the league…. It’s all about the eye test not PER.
 
SharpesTriumph said:
You left out the "IF HE WAS 29" part.

Shooting 37% FG and 29% 3..... single digit PER and negative on BPM/winshare/etc.... thats just not an NBA roster level player.

Scoot was a 19 year old rookie so of course should be on a roster now. He needs to improve a lot to become just an average NBA player - let alone the hope of the #3 elite pick he was projected as. Not sure how any rational Blazer fan can happily say his performance so far has happily meet their predraft expectations of this guy.
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You posted he didn’t belong on an NBA roster right now FAMS. Didn’t you?
 
At this point i'm not even recording the games to watch after I get home from soccer training. What I had witnessed previously was that Scoot/Ant are a dreadful backcourt pairing. When Ant has the ball in his hands he effectively makes Scoot a jump shooter. Players get better in the off season. Lets see what he does.
 
The rhetoric after the all star break was that ant was going to move into an offball role, however I’ve seen a bit less of that than I expected (ant's usage over the last 9 games is 28.4%). the fact that scoot is still racking up 6 turnovers without being the sole ballhandler is troubling.
 
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A mod should really merge these two threads about Scoot.
Or is there too many people with certain people on ignore?
 
Samuel said:
The rhetoric after the all star break was that ant was going to move into an offball role, however I’ve seen a bit less of that than I expected (ant's usage over the last 9 games is 28.4%). the fact that scoot is still racking up 6 turnovers without being the sole ballhandler is troubling.
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A lot of those turnovers are fairly egregious too. 'Simple' passes out on the wing.

He's forcing a lot of passes that are not there. And a lot of his passes are off the mark (ie - not hitting his teammate's hands in the pocket)
 
CJ_is_Gone said:
A lot of those turnovers are fairly egregious too. 'Simple' passes out on the wing.

He's forcing a lot of passes that are not there. And a lot of his passes are off the mark (ie - not hitting his teammate's hands in the pocket)
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him and murray seem to have a case of the yips in a handful of different ways.

to me, scoot looks like he's also still bothered by an injury of sorts. it's not the 'all-turbo' issue of the beginning of the season anymore. he literally looks like he has less pop on his drives, finishes and extension on his jumpers.

hopefully an offseason of rest, practice and focus will sort things out.
 
SharpesTriumph said:
You left out the "IF HE WAS 29" part.

Shooting 37% FG and 29% 3..... single digit PER and negative on BPM/winshare/etc.... thats just not an NBA roster level player.

Scoot was a 19 year old rookie so of course should be on a roster now. He needs to improve a lot to become just an average NBA player - let alone the hope of the #3 elite pick he was projected as. Not sure how any rational Blazer fan can happily say his performance so far has happily meet their predraft expectations of this guy.
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He’s had legitimately good games this season and he nearly won player of the week. They’re few and far between because he’s young. We’ve seen a 22/7/11 game from him. In a few years, he’ll average that.
 
BBert said:
That's what he wants you to think.
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My "Like" to "Post" ratio is much better than his so I'm certain he worships reading my posts. Might be the one true reason he keeps coming back. That and that thing I taught the Mrs.
 
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