Game Thread SEEDING GAME# 5: CLIPPERS @ BLAZERS - AUGUST 8, 2020 - SATURDAY, 10:00AM, TNT & NBCSNW

[tykendo]

What's to get? During the run to the WCF, the Blazers were playing well as a team. There was a definite sense that the whole (while flawed) was playing greater than the sum of the parts. This season has had the opposite feel. Even when they win, it seems to be a product of individuals (usually Dame) playing really well, but with indifferent support. The pieces don't seem to fit together right.

When the roster is dysfuntional, the only solution is to change the roster.

Do you really see the roster as being that out of sorts? I mean they went against a team that's considered to be co favorites to win it all. Yes they had 3 key guys out Leonard, Harrell, and Bev. But the Blazers were missing Whiteside, Ariza, and Hood. If both teams are healthy it's gonna be a battle royal. It's not like the Blazers were dominate the whole game. The Blazers controlled the lead most of the way, and it took multiple things to go right for the Clips to win today. Like CJ's fouls, Dame's FT misses, and a double digit FT attempt advantage to name a few.

 

[tykendo]

4 guys scored 80+ points - and we still lost to a team that was only half trying. What does that say about the rest of the roster?

Hey, I hate losses as much as the next guy, but that will never change my support for the team and rooting them on. It's pretty disgusting how some of these posters respond to a defeat. To me, being a fan for a team is like a marriage vow, for better or for worse.

WORD!

 

[Chris Craig]

I know I'm not off the bandwagon. Before the Clippers were sitting everyone, I had this down as a loss anyway and still thought we'd make the playoffs. So we should still make the playoffs but that's not enough for me. CJ is a bad fit on this team and I have been saying that for four or five years now. The guy is an amazing scoring guard with the ball in his hands which is completely redundant when paired with Dame. Then there is the fact that he is an absolutely terrible defender which Dame isn't a good enough defender to make up for. So, especially with the emergence of Gary Trent Jr. you really need to trade CJ and try to get a three and D SF who is at CJ's talent level or maybe just a little worse if you can save some money. We might also want to get Dame an actual backup at PG. If we do those things and get one other role playing front court player this team will be moving forward in the direction of a championship and that's all I want. I'm not fickle, I'm actually really consistent with my fandom.

We were up 5 with just over a minute left. CJ refused to pass to an open Gary Trent Jr. He passed the ball the opposite way and it ended in a turnover. The Clipper fast breaked and CJ fouled. He is a terrible defender and is selfish. I agree he and Lillard are redundant because they both need the ball.

 

[OneSport3]

Hey, I hate losses as much as the next guy, but that will never change my support for the team and rooting them on. It's pretty disgusting how some of these posters respond to a defeat. To me, being a fan for a team is like a marriage vow, for better or for worse.

If you’re going to use the marriage analogy, if your wife was an alcoholic, you wouldn’t want her to change and improve herself? Or are you just going to sit idly and do nothing?? Being supportive and wanting someone to improve themselves aren’t mutually exclusive.

 

[Orion Bailey]

4 guys scored 80+ points - and we still lost to a team that was only half trying. What does that say about the rest of the roster?

It says we can use a move or two and are sorely missing Ariza and hood. Who would be the guys guarding pg btw.

doesn't mean blow the team up and if Dame doesn't play well, we lose.

 

[Chris Craig]

Hey, I hate losses as much as the next guy, but that will never change my support for the team and rooting them on. It's pretty disgusting how some of these posters respond to a defeat. To me, being a fan for a team is like a marriage vow, for better or for worse.

I am a bigger Blazer fan than anyone. I am so pissed that we lost because I am invested in the team. I will always root for the Blazers. I will always support them. But, as a fan I can show my anger too

 

[tykendo]

If you’re going to use the marriage analogy, if your wife was an alcoholic, you wouldn’t want her to change and improve herself? Or are you just going to sit idly and do nothing?? Being supportive and wanting someone to improve themselves aren’t mutually exclusive.[/Q

If you’re going to use the marriage analogy, if your wife was an alcoholic, you wouldn’t want her to change and improve herself? Or are you just going to sit idly and do nothing?? Being supportive and wanting someone to improve themselves aren’t mutually exclusive.

OK using that same thought process. If your wife's an alcoholic are you going to verbally abuse her and cast her to the side. Some of the fans in here act like that when they lose.

 

[Orion Bailey]

I am a bigger Blazer fan than anyone. I am so pissed that we lost because I am invested in the team. I will always root for the Blazers. I will always support them. But, as a fan I can show my anger too

you gonna have a quick line building looking to question that first sentence!

Also if you don't feel the exact same as certain fans, then you aren’t a fan at all. You aren't allowed your own emotions and you must be robotically positive at all times or you just aren't a fan!

 

[tykendo]

I am a bigger Blazer fan than anyone. I am so pissed that we lost because I am invested in the team. I will always root for the Blazers. I will always support them. But, as a fan I can show my anger too

Prove it! That you're a bigger Blazer Fan, Prove it!

 

[CupWizier]

If you’re going to use the marriage analogy, if your wife was an alcoholic, you wouldn’t want her to change and improve herself? Or are you just going to sit idly and do nothing?? Being supportive and wanting someone to improve themselves aren’t mutually exclusive.

lmao! That was a piss poor analogy. The Blazers are in no way equivalent to an alcoholic. Besides, as a fan, I have no control over what decisions the Blazers make as I can cry from the top of Mt. Tabor and it wouldn't make a bit of difference.

 

[oldmangrouch]

Also if you don't feel the exact same as certain fans, then you aren’t a fan at all. You aren't allowed your own emotions and you must be robotically positive at all times or you just aren't a fan!

I strongly suspect you are joking....but that is only a slight exageration of how some folks here seem to feel!

 

[OneSport3]

lmao! That was a piss poor analogy. The Blazers are in no way equivalent to an alcoholic. Besides, as a fan, I have no control over what decisions the Blazers make as I can cry from the top of Mt. Tabor and it wouldn't make a bit of difference.

It was your analogy...

 

[CupWizier]

I am a bigger Blazer fan than anyone. I am so pissed that we lost because I am invested in the team. I will always root for the Blazers. I will always support them. But, as a fan I can show my anger too

no you aren't, and making that comment is very offensive to the rest of the fans. I saw a few posts of yours giving up on the season also and anger leads to irrationality and poor decisions. It's better to keep the emotions under control.

 

[CupWizier]

It was your analogy...

WRONG and where did I say anything about an alcoholic? Here's a clue, I didn't, you did. You simply twisted my analogy into your own so that's on you, not me.

 

[Chris Craig]

you gonna have a quick line building looking to question that first sentence!

Also if you don't feel the exact same as certain fans, then you aren’t a fan at all. You aren't allowed your own emotions and you must be robotically positive at all times or you just aren't a fan!

I'm a fan dammit. The Blazers biggest fan

 

[tykendo]

Blazers fans meet at Mt. Tabor and decide who's the g

no you aren't, and making that comment is very offensive to the rest of the fans. I saw a few posts of yours giving up on the season also and anger leads to irrationality and poor decisions. It's better to keep the emotions under control.

Plus he agreed with Shit Bayless. That's grounds for Blazer Fan demotion right there.

 

[Chris Craig]

Prove it! That you're a bigger Blazer Fan, Prove it!

Prove me wrong

Mt Tabor

 

[James lamphear]

Well here comes all negatives commits I still Zach going good ball player he made some good defense stops at the rim. 7 points 7 rebounds 1 block 1 turnover +8. He was playing on the point guard at the start of the game. Now do I think 1/2 step slow sometimes sure. Does need continue get stronger sure. But you who I am blaming is olshey we got 6 players contribute anything and one game Whiteside came to play. We go from 6th player to 12-15 player on team coming off the bench. Olshey had chance to sign a couple good players and he just sign g-league player. Olshey dealt Stotts a bad hand for this bubble.

 

[CupWizier]

you gonna have a quick line building looking to question that first sentence!

Also if you don't feel the exact same as certain fans, then you aren’t a fan at all. You aren't allowed your own emotions and you must be robotically positive at all times or you just aren't a fan!

once again, you fabricate crap to fit your agenda. Nice try butters.

 

[Chris Craig]

no you aren't, and making that comment is very offensive to the rest of the fans. I saw a few posts of yours giving up on the season also and anger leads to irrationality and poor decisions. It's better to keep the emotions under control.

Yes, I am. Sorry, if my Fanhood offends you. I have never given up. I have gotten angry. I have been dissappointed. That is part of Fanhood. But, I am always here rooting for the Blazers, louder than anyone.

 

[OneSport3]

WRONG and where did I say anything about an alcoholic? Here's a clue, I didn't, you did. You simply twisted my analogy into your own so that's on you, not me.

You said like a marriage, for better or for worst. I was just giving an example of a time that could be worst. It could be an alcoholic or any other issue. But you can be supportive of your wife while at the same time wanting them to improve themselves.

 

[Chris Craig]

Blazers fans meet at Mt. Tabor and decide who's the g

Plus he agreed with Shit Bayless. That's grounds for Blazer Fan demotion right there.

I didn't agree with Bayless. I am just tired of seeing Lillard not be able to play as well as he can because the Blazers can't figure out double teams.

 

[Orion Bailey]

I'm a fan dammit. The Blazers biggest fan

even when standing next to me?

isnt that like boban standing next to bibby?

 

[Chris Craig]

even when standing next to me?

isnt that like boban standing next to bibby?

Yes

It's the size of the fight in the dog

 

[CupWizier]

You said like a marriage, for better or for worst. I was just giving an example of a time that could be worst. It could be an alcoholic or any other issue. But you can be supportive of your wife while at the same time wanting them to improve themselves.

Well let's use your analogy that has nothing to do with basketball. So you divorce your wife if she has a drinking problem, or do you try and help and support them?

Are you even married and ever been divorced?

 

[MickZagger]

We didn’t attack enough. Force the issue. Plus critical missed free throws.

Need to win out

 

[tykendo]

Well here comes all negatives commits I still Zach going good ball player he made some good defense stops at the rim. 7 points 7 rebounds 1 block 1 turnover +8. He was playing on the point guard at the start of the game. Now do I think 1/2 step slow sometimes sure. Does need continue get stronger sure. But you who I am blaming is olshey we got 6 players contribute anything and one game Whiteside came to play. We go from 6th player to 12-15 player on team coming off the bench. Olshey had chance to sign a couple good players and he just sign g-league player. Olshey dealt Stotts a bad hand for this bubble.

Who was really out there? Maybe Neil tried to get Trevor to opt in as well. I just don't see Neil as a do nothing GM. I think he tries to improve this team. But i didn't see any player that was available other than end of bench guys.

 

[CupWizier]

Prove me wrong

Mt Tabor

Fuck the Blazers

That doesn't look like something the biggest fan would say.

and I didn;t even need to go to Mt. Tabor to prove it.

 

[Orion Bailey]

I strongly suspect you are joking....but that is only a slight exageration of how some folks here seem to feel!

very slight.
I may not agree with some, but I'm not gonna tell people how to feel. Some here insist on it though.

 

[wizenheimer]

Yes they had 3 key guys out Leonard, Harrell, and Bev. But the Blazers were missing Whiteside, Ariza, and Hood. If both teams are healthy it's gonna be a battle royal. .

well, the Clips also sat PG13 and Lou Williams down in the 4th Q, so they were 'missing' a lot at the end.

but it's not the same; the Clips were resting players. Portland is missing 2 of the 3 you mentioned and neither will be joining the team any time soon. Hood may never be anywhere close to the level he was at, Wesley Matthews never was, and Ariza is 35 and it's not a certain thing he will even be on the team next season

so, the roster comparison doesn't really fit

and again, the Blazers have been invested in the Dame/CJ back court for 5 seasons now. The team has been built around that. And in that era, when the Blazers have made it to their close-out series in the playoffs, their record is 1-16 and they have lost 14 in a row.

@ Golden State Warriors L 106 118
@ Golden State Warriors L 99 110
Golden State Warriors W 120 108
Golden State Warriors L 125 132
@ Golden State Warriors L 121 125
@ Golden State Warriors L 109 121
@ Golden State Warriors L 81 110
Golden State Warriors L 113 119
Golden State Warriors L 103 128
New Orleans Pelicans L 95 97
New Orleans Pelicans L 102 111
New Orleans Pelicans L 102 119
New Orleans Pelicans L 123 131
@ Golden State Warriors L 94 116
@ Golden State Warriors L 111 114
Golden State Warriors L 99 110
Golden State Warriors L 117 119

3 straight sweeps is bad enough, but the problem is the opponent formula to crush Portland has remained the same: take Dame out of the equation with doubles, triples, and traps and force the rest of the team to win games; and they can't do it. And that's what happened today. The Clips trapped and doubled Dame for most of the game. As soon as the Blazers stopped shooting 60% from everywhere, they lost control of the game

that's a roster problem