Notice Sheridan: Lakers Discussed Idea of Acquiring Damian Lillard

[Gronk Brady]

Lonzo is not a generational talent. Not even close. He may someday be a serviceable starting pg, I’m not opposed to trading CJ, but trading Dame for talent that’s not even close to his is a quick way to be a bottom feeder, by the time Collins and Lonzo are even close to ready to make Portland sort of good, their contracts will be up.
Lonzo can’t shoot, like at all and none of his other skills are good enough to overcome that, he’s not 6’8 and strong like Simmons, Giannis or Lebron.

Dame was 4th in MVP voting and 1st team all NBA and you want to trade him for Prospects that proven absolutely nothing? There’s a lot of history in the NBA of teams trading stars for packages like that and basically never works out for team trading the star.
I’m all for moves to get better but this one doesn’t and it’s it’s pretty unlikely any of those young guys are ever good enough to replace what Dame is.

1. That’s just your opinion of Ball... most professional scouts disagree with you

2. Trade would be for more than just Ball...

3. Trading stars not working is made up by you... you only need to look at Paul George trade last year

 

[tykendo]

"fantasyland". If that's a place where maybe, just maybe, Portland somehow gets to the promised land, then yes, that's where I hang.

 

[jlprk]

"Lillard is held hostage" ha ha. Los Angeles writers are chauvinists (superiority complex) about their big city (yet losing team). Why aren't Oregon sportswriters returning fire with forceful articles?

 

[Pinwheel1]

Didn't see Cowherd as a LA Media Whore,

Total USC and Laker whore. Has been for the last decade at least. He always pimps the places where he feels will give him the biggest opportunity to increase his base. Los Angeles is clearly one his his targets.

 

[Gronk Brady]

Which is fine to feel that way, but Lonzo Ball is a long ways away from being Good. The Lakers future draft picks would be basically useless because Lebron and Dame would keep them far away from the lottery. Dame is good enough there HAS to be better packages then that.

Not liking this package is fine... but you need to build for 3 years down the road... what I don’t understand is the mentality that you would rather go down with the ship than trade Dame for assets... and let’s be real, Dame’s value will NEVER be higher then right now after getting in 1st team...

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

1. That’s just your opinion of Ball... most professional scouts disagree with you

2. Trade would be for more than just Ball...

3. Trading stars not working is made up by you... you only need to look at Paul George trade last year

I have never read or heard a scout professional scout say he’s a generational talent, and it’s not an opinion it’s a fact he is a bad shooter AND his shot mechanics make it hard for him to get shot off.
The Paul George example is a bad one, as Indiana is in the East so that helps them a lot, and George also had to play with Carmelo who at this point it’s pretty obvious he just isn’t good and he demands a lot of touches.
There are a lot more examples of it turning out poorly for the team trading the star then vice versus.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

"Lillard is held hostage" ha ha. Los Angeles writers are chauvinists (superiority complex) about their big city (yet losing team). Why aren't Oregon sportswriters returning fire with forceful articles?

Instead we have perpetual blowhard Canzano who, spends all his time tearing down every Oregon based team that doesn’t treat him like he’s a god.

 

[tykendo]

1. That’s just your opinion of Ball... most professional scouts disagree with you

2. Trade would be for more than just Ball...

3. Trading stars not working is made up by you... you only need to look at Paul George trade last year

Oladipo didn't work with Westbrook. Looked like he regressed from his Magic years. Indiana lucked out there. On the draftpicks, if low draftpicks are so coveted, then let's be patient and see how "OUR" low draftpicks (Simon, Trent Jr.) turnout.

 

[BonesJones]

Canzano: Lillard Time takes on new meaning for Portland Trail Blazers with reported Lakers trade interest

https://www.oregonlive.com/sports/o...lillard_time_takes_on.html#incart_river_index

Never post crap like this again. Screw Clownzano.

 

[BonesJones]

Not liking this package is fine... but you need to build for 3 years down the road... what I don’t understand is the mentality that you would rather go down with the ship than trade Dame for assets... and let’s be real, Dame’s value will NEVER be higher then right now after getting in 1st team...

Okay, build for 3 years down the road.

I'll take an NBA 1st Team caliber PG 3 years down the road. Oh wait, we already have him.

 

[RR7]

I wouldn’t trade Dame if there was a REALISTIC path to success in Portland... unfortunately there isn’t, and he is 28... so instead of waiting and hoping for a miracle in the next 3 years and risk him walking like LMA, I would look to sell at peak value to spead up a rebuild... you live in some fantasy land

Instead you're waiting and hoping for a miracle more than 3 years out?

 

[BonesJones]

I wouldn’t trade Dame if there was a REALISTIC path to success in Portland... unfortunately there isn’t, and he is 28... so instead of waiting and hoping for a miracle in the next 3 years and risk him walking like LMA, I would look to sell at peak value to spead up a rebuild... you live in some fantasy land

There's no realistic path without Dame, so ride out Dame's years and enjoy having a player as good as him instead of wanting to blow it all up.

 

[tykendo]

Total USC and Laker whore. Has been for the last decade at least. He always pimps the places where he feels will give him him the biggest opportunity to increase his base. Los Angeles is clearly one his his targets.

You guys in PDX got to know Colin when he was there. Was he like that then? I used to like him in the mid 2000's. His show was comical, filled with goofy impressions, and sports talk. Then he hit paydirt, and his takes got all "lick the big boys balls". Not just today, on most of his takes now.

 

[tykendo]

There's no realistic path without Dame, so ride out Dame's years and enjoy having a player as good as him instead of wanting to blow it all up.

AMEN!

 

[jlprk]

"Lillard is held hostage" ha ha. Los Angeles writers are chauvinists (superiority complex) about their big city (yet losing team). Why aren't Oregon sportswriters returning fire with forceful articles?

Instead we have perpetual blowhard Canzano who, spends all his time tearing down every Oregon based team that doesn’t treat him like he’s a god.

It's the difference between the police and military. Portland writers internally fight their own players over moral/religious issues (especially during the Whitsitt era), while Los Angeles writers strategically attack other teams only to gain power.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

Not liking this package is fine... but you need to build for 3 years down the road... what I don’t understand is the mentality that you would rather go down with the ship than trade Dame for assets... and let’s be real, Dame’s value will NEVER be higher then right now after getting in 1st team...

If you have to trade him (they don’t) why not go after a team like Atlanta get Tre Young and 2-3 1sts maybe get taurean Prince too. I’d take that over the Laker package.

 

[Gronk Brady]

There's no realistic path without Dame, so ride out Dame's years and enjoy having a player as good as him instead of wanting to blow it all up.

Um yeah there is... how is it not realistic to think a team of Ball, Simons, Ingram, Collins, and Nurk can’t win a title in 5 years?? They are all under 23 and still developing? And seriously you would be happy watching a 7-10 seed the next 3 years then either letting Dame walk for nothing or paying him 40+ mil at 31 years old?? Are you serious???

 

[Hobbesarable]

Screw the L*kers.

With that said, have a happy 4th of July!

 

[tykendo]

Hey Gronk, let's get together for a couple of pops when I move there.

 

[Gronk Brady]

If you have to trade him (they don’t) why not go after a team like Atlanta get Tre Young and 2-3 1sts maybe get taurean Prince too. I’d take that over the Laker package.

I like that too... my point is you should be a fan of the team 1st, and be realistic about the situation...

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

Um yeah there is... how is it not realistic to think a team of Ball, Simons, Ingram, Collins, and Nurk can’t win a title in 5 years?? They are all under 23 and still developing? And seriously you would be happy watching a 7-10 seed the next 3 years then either letting Dame walk for nothing or paying him 40+ mil at 31 years old?? Are you serious???

Well... No one on that team except maybe Nurkic has proven they can really play in the NBA it’s just as likely that team makes us Sacramento...

 

[tykendo]

Um yeah there is... how is it not realistic to think a team of Ball, Simons, Ingram, Collins, and Nurk can’t win a title in 5 years?? They are all under 23 and still developing? And seriously you would be happy watching a 7-10 seed the next 3 years then either letting Dame walk for nothing or paying him 40+ mil at 31 years old?? Are you serious???

Wow! Now Simon is in there too. Awesome. So you're guarantying that those guys will all stay in Portland and re-sign with the team. Do you have the lottery numbers for Friday too?

 

[Gronk Brady]

Just to be clear, my 1st choice is to keep Dame and trade for Kawai, or Love and give it a shot... but if Neil can’t make it happen then it’s time to move on now at peek value and get as many assets as possible

 

[tykendo]

I like that too... my point is you should be a fan of the team 1st, and be realistic about the situation... Tykendo’s emotional stability is tied to a player is scary, probably needs to seek help for bigger issues

Lack of money is my biggest issue. But with those winning lottery numbers I will be just fine, and you and I can enjoy a couple of pops together.

 

[RR7]

Ball, Simons, Ingram, Collins, Nurk can win a title in 5 years? If so, then I think there's more reason to stick with what we got currently and tweak. Lillard is better than Ball by far, you swap out CJ for an Ingram level SF, and that teams better than what you just proposed.

 

[tykendo]

Crap like this is why your posts are the biggest asshole on this board. People can be fans in whatever way they want.. who are you to tell them how much or little they should be a fan of a player?

Thanks Bro.

 

[BonesJones]

Ball, Simons, Ingram, Collins, Nurk can win a title in 5 years? If so, then I think there's more reason to stick with what we got currently and tweak. Lillard is better than Ball by far, you swap out CJ for an Ingram level SF, and that teams better than what you just proposed.

That's a back-end lottery team for the next 5 years. So basically, purgatory without competitiveness.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

I like that too... my point is you should be a fan of the team 1st, and be realistic about the situation...

I guess you’re entitled to an opinion just as much as any of us, I see where you’re coming from at least to an extent. I wouldn’t mind trading CJ for young players and maybe a solid wing player. I think its hard for me to think trading the closest thing to a superstar the Blazers have had in decades some how leads to them being better.
One thing to Remember is GS will own the NBA next year but after that Cousins, Green and Thompson will all have to make decisions about staying or going and the money situation will mean they can’t keep them all (GS will not have Cousins’ bird rights).

 

[Pinwheel1]

Um yeah there is... how is it not realistic to think a team of Ball, Simons, Ingram, Collins, and Nurk can’t win a title in 5 years?? They are all under 23 and still developing? And seriously you would be happy watching a 7-10 seed the next 3 years then either letting Dame walk for nothing or paying him 40+ mil at 31 years old?? Are you serious???

You already have 3 of those 5 on the team. And Dame is better than Ball. So why not just keep Dame, Simons, Collins and Nurk and find a SF? You can always trade him later. Ingram would be great next to Dame, just not Ball. Ingram played his best last year when he actually ran the offense while Ball was hurt.

The best bet is to see how Simons and or Trent progress at SG, and if and when they do, then you trade CJ for a quality SF..... if you can't find one by then without trading him.

 

[BonesJones]

I guess you’re entitled to an opinion just as much as any of us, I see where you’re coming from at least to an extent. I wouldn’t mind trading CJ for young players and maybe a solid wing player. I think its hard for me to think trading the closest thing to a superstar the Blazers have had in decades some how leads to them being better.
One thing to Remember is GS will own the NBA next year but after that Cousins, Green and Thompson will all have to make decisions about staying or going and the money situation will mean they can’t keep them all (GS will not have Cousins’ bird rights).

It'd be nice to try to land Klay somehow. If we had space and a good team (Lillard + Butler?) then I feel like we could have a chance. Might be worth trying to get Love too.