Should we keep or trade Henderson?

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Do you...

  • Keep him

    Votes: 18 36.7%

  • Trade him

    Votes: 31 63.3%
  • Total voters
    49
Denny Crane said:
It's not $12M/year.

There are ways to get close to the cap or over before signing him.

They sign players up to $12M under, then sign Crabbe for $10M. For example. Crabbe's cap hold is tiny. His next contract won't be. $947K this year.
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I have to believe you're being intentionally obtuse. There is no reasonable permutation of events for this summer that would require use of Henderson's bird rights that couldn't be accomplished without them.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
I have to believe you're being intentionally obtuse. There is no reasonable permutation of events for this summer that would require use of Henderson's bird rights that couldn't be accomplished without them.
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Just imagine that Henderson is capable of 3 years of peak performance and willing to come off the bench for Kurt Thomas money...why wouldn't you want him coming off the bench? There's a value in rewarding hard work with loyalty. People won't think Dame is young when Henderson is the same age as Lamarcus...I just don't see replacing him coming off the bench with a better option than a Luke Babbit or Nolan Smith
 
riverman said:
Just imagine that Henderson is capable of 3 years of peak performance and willing to come off the bench for Kurt Thomas money...why wouldn't you want him coming off the bench? There's a value in rewarding hard work with loyalty. People won't think Dame is young when Henderson is the same age as Lamarcus...I just don't see replacing him coming off the bench with a better option than a Luke Babbit or Nolan Smith
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And what, precisely, do you mean when you say "Kurt Thomas money"?
 
PtldPlatypus said:
I have to believe you're being intentionally obtuse. There is no reasonable permutation of events for this summer that would require use of Henderson's bird rights that couldn't be accomplished without them.
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If the Blazers want to give Henderson a 5 year deal at $4M+, and 7.5% raises, this is how to do it. That's assuming Crabbe signs for $10M.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
And what, precisely, do you mean when you say "Kurt Thomas money"?
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He's going to get role player money and he's been a starter all his career...I'm comparing him to vets from the Kurt Thomas, Marcus Camby, Gerald Wallace era..and Henderson has value to a team that wants to be a regular playoff contender...he's just not that old...we paid an ancient Camby 13.3 mil to play about 7 good games and be a locker room cancer ending with a coach firing....Gerald Henderson is a high character, hard working, unselfish guy...I just don't see the reason to not keep him around for the prime of his career and benefit from his bench contributions.
 
Denny Crane said:
If the Blazers want to give Henderson a 5 year deal at $4M+, this is how to do it. That's assuming Crabbe signs for $10M.
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They could instead give him a 4 year deal at 5+M prior to signing Crabbe, thus preserving $6M in cap space since they don't have 11.4M tied up in Henderson's cap hold, and accomplish the exact same result.
 
riverman said:
Remember Sean Elliot with the Spurs...to me that could be Gerald Henderson with the Blazers for 2 or 3 years
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Gerald Henderson has never been as good as Sean Elliott. Elliott was a two time all star. Hendo will never sniff an all star game
 
PtldPlatypus said:
They could instead give him a 4 year deal at 5+M prior to signing Crabbe, thus preserving $6M in cap space since they don't have 11.4M tied up in Henderson's cap hold, and accomplish the exact same result.
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A 5 year deal may be what hendo wants to sign with us, turning down the 4-year/$5M+ he's offered by another team.
 
Denny Crane said:
A 5 year deal may be what hendo wants to sign with us, turning down the 4-year/$5M+ he's offered by another team.
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You're grasping at straws. What possible reason would he have to want to sign a deal for the same amount of money spread over more years?

Just give up. You're wrong. Accept it.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
You're grasping at straws. What possible reason would he have to want to sign a deal for the same amount of money spread over more years?

Just give up. You're wrong. Accept it.
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You assume it's same money. The Blazers can offer 5/30 at $6M/year, while other teams can offer 4/24 at $6M. And 7.5% raises.
 
I would be very much in favor of keeping Hendo. I think he will be had for 5/6 mil a season which is a good value. Good vets are important to a young team, and he's pretty young still.
 
I see no reason to trade Henderson. He fits the team well, gives us depth and he's a better slasher than Crabbe (one of the best on the team imo). The kind of guy we needed last year. The kind of guy that's a missing piece that we always seem to need when we're good. It's not a given he'll bail. We can re-sign him. I like his game, and what he brings to the table. I hope he stays with the team and becomes a sixth man of the year type.
 
People praise the Spurs for their success but Pop has taken vets that weren't having success and made them champions..Boris Diaw...nobody saw him as a guy who would thrive when he was in Charlotte.....now David West...another guy playing for a big paycut...then you have Duncan taking a big paycut to keep his teammates on the roster..specifically Parker and Ginobli....so Neil Olshey brings in a vet like Henderson and it's actually a very Popovich type acquisition..solid bench player that fits the system..I think it was a good move
 
KeepOnRollin said:
To tell you the truth I must have got lost. Thought we were talking Crabbe here. 12 MIL for him from Olshey easily. Henderson? Yes, I think you are right. 10 MIL MAX from us although I could see another team go as high as 12.
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Oh ,Crabbe? He is getting at least 12M for sure in this market (if he stays healthy and doesn't drop).
I'm worried he might even gonna get a max offer...
 
I didn't even think about crabbe's low cap hold. That's actually concerning. A team might make him a big offer right out of the gate to take a chunk of our cap space off the table. Similar to what Dallas did with chandler parsons when Houston was chasing bosh.


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AmirIcon said:
I would be very much in favor of keeping Hendo. I think he will be had for 5/6 mil a season which is a good value. Good vets are important to a young team, and he's pretty young still.
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I can't see any way in this market with the amount of cap space available for so many teams that Hendo doesn't get a bigger offer than that. It's just the reality of the new salary cap. The difference between SA getting players to play cheap and where Portland is reflects how much closer they are to a Title.
 
Natebishop3 said:
I didn't even think about crabbe's low cap hold. That's actually concerning. A team might make him a big offer right out of the gate to take a chunk of our cap space off the table. Similar to what Dallas did with chandler parsons when Houston was chasing bosh.


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Fortunately, we have the moratorium. If NO can get in and hit free agency hard, he can hopefully get a commitment from some free agents before any deal Crabbe might sign would have any impact on us.
 
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