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Tince said:
You quote me saying "start a Fire Kidd thread now" and imply that means I think nobody is allowed to have a personal opinion on the matter? That's the real unusual and puzzling take.

I'm 100% ok with everyone having an opinion on anything basketball related on this board. In fact, I'm glad there are differing opinions around here; this place would suck if we all agreed.
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No, it wouldn't.
 
Jade Falcon said:
Thoughts on Juwan Howard?
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I think Howard is one of those rare guys who can be successful both in college and the NBA. I was impressed with him as an aging player when he was with the Blazers. Seems to have the right mix of being hard-nosed, disciplined and, as a former player at the highest level, understanding you have to give the players some free rein.

I think he could succeed in Portland. He's familiar with the community and organization on top of his basketball acumen. There are several choices I'd be happy with (Spo, Billups ...), and he's definitely one of them.
 
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PDXFonz said:
They should hire this forum to coach the team.

Fan coached.
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They should hold a contest and hire a lucky fan to coach the team
 
THE HCP said:
Interesting that they are interested in him instead of Kidd.
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Probably because they know Kidd would say no.
Steve Clifford left because he didn’t want to go through a rebuild.
I would assume Kidd will be in play for better jobs.
 
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So Dame want Kidd over David Vanterpool when he criticized the Wolves for not hiring him? lol. My HC picks are Lionel Hollins and JVG or the championship pedigree of Udoka and Becky. Juwan Howard is also should be look at.
 
DDolla said:
So Dame want Kidd over David Vanterpool when he criticized the Wolves for not hiring him? lol. My HC picks are Lionel Hollins and JVG or the championship pedigree of Udoka and Becky. Juwan Howard is also should be look at.
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Probably because Minnesota is a young team that doesn’t have playoff aspirations and is quite clearly still building.

Kidd won a championship last year and has HC experience.

Pretty easy to see why, really.
 
JoshuaHall said:
Probably because they know Kidd would say no.
Steve Clifford left because he didn’t want to go threw a rebuild.
I would assume Kidd will be in play for better jobs.
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Looking at his personal and coaching history, why would you assume this?
 
JoshuaHall said:
Probably because Minnesota is a young team that doesn’t have playoff aspirations and is quite clearly still building.

Kidd won a championship last year and has HC experience.

Pretty easy to see why, really.
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But Stotts was as responsible for a CHampionship as Kidd was.
 
JoshuaHall said:
Probably because Minnesota is a young team that doesn’t have playoff aspirations and is quite clearly still building.

Kidd won a championship last year and has HC experience.

Pretty easy to see why, really.
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He had nothing to do with winning that championship. That was Lebron and AD and Co. Kidd was assistant coach who sat on a bench and watched.
 
THE HCP said:
Looking at his personal and coaching history, why would you assume this?
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Because he has already been connected to the Celtics and Blazers job, which are both much better opportunities than the Magic.

And Kidd was an above .500 coach, unlike Stotts when we hired him.

He improved the defense of Milwaukee by the second most EVER in his first season and made major leaps.

Could be wrong but when he’s already been connected to two better jobs, not sure why the magic would jump in.
 
Natebishop3 said:
I don't get you guys wanting JVG. He hasn't been a coach in forever. What makes you think the game hasn't passed him by? The game CLEARLY passed Stotts by.
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Maybe because his job the past decade or so has been to observe and break down every team that’s been broadcast on ESPN? He’s not on my short list or anything, but let’s not pretend the guys getting summoned from a cabin in the woods.
 
THE HCP said:
But Stotts was as responsible for a CHampionship as Kidd was.
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You addressed one aspect of what I said.
Minnesota is still rebuilding.
Kidd has prior experience.
And this wasn’t a comparison between Stotts and Kidd, it was a comparison between Kidd and Vanterpool.
Dame expressly stated he prefers someone with HC experience.

Because Dame thinks Vanterpool is a good fit for a LESSER job doesn’t mean he thinks Vanterpool is a good fit for the PORTLAND job.

I mean... it’s simple logic guys.
 
Chris Craig said:
He had nothing to do with winning that championship. That was Lebron and AD and Co. Kidd was assistant coach who sat on a bench and watched.
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Alright, still has head coach experience - which dame expressly stated that he preferred.
Then, once again, just because Dame thinks he is a good fit for a different job, doesn’t mean he thinks he is a good fit for this job.
 
DDolla said:
So Dame want Kidd over David Vanterpool when he criticized the Wolves for not hiring him? lol. My HC picks are Lionel Hollins and JVG or the championship pedigree of Udoka and Becky. Juwan Howard is also should be look at.
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I think Hollins is a really good, under-the-radar candidate.
 
Scalma said:
so by your logic, coaching isn’t a thing.
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Oh, it is. But, he wasn't head coach. The Lakers had two stars plus the blessing of the NBA. The Blazers don't have that. Kidd's "championship" experience with the Lakers won't mean shit in Portland.
 
Scalma said:
so by your logic, coaching isn’t a thing.
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Even if he did sit on the bench and “watch”, I assume he probably learned a thing or two about *coaching* being part of a championship staff. Hell he even admitted he pretty much learned how to not be a douchebag and to “have more fun” as a coach.
 
JoshuaHall said:
Even if he did sit on the bench and “watch”, I assume he probably learned a thing or two about *coaching* being part of a championship staff. Hell he even admitted he pretty much learned how to not be a douchebag and to “have more fun” as a coach.
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Its just funny when fans think they know the inner workings of an nba coaching staff. We have no idea how involved Kidd was or wasn’t in regards to game plans, development, etc. But if the praise is so universal, it’s probably not a smart move to just completely dismiss it.
 
PCmor7 said:
I think Hollins is a really good, under-the-radar candidate.
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Yes, but he seems too rigid and authoritarian (too “old school”) to mesh with today’s players. He has had two opportunities already, had some level of success and wore out his welcome in both places quickly. Plus he’s not exactly a young man anymore. I like the guy a lot but not as a coach…..
 
UncleCliffy'sDaddy said:
Yes, but he seems too rigid and authoritarian (too “old school”) to mesh with today’s players. He has had two opportunities already, had some level of success and wore out his welcome in both places quickly. Plus he’s not exactly a young man anymore. I like the guy a lot but not as a coach…..
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I think in Memphis he won that way because that fit the roster he had. Just MO. And Brooklyn was kind of a mess when he got there ... but he was coming off a great year with the Griz when the Nets hired him.
 
Scalma said:
Its just funny when fans think they know the inner workings of an nba coaching staff. We have no idea how involved Kidd was or wasn’t in regards to game plans, development, etc. But if the praise is so universal, it’s probably not a smart move to just completely dismiss it.
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Exactly.
I understand if their hesitation is the personal stuff, completely different topic.
But the idea they think he is a scrub of a coach is completely unfounded.

His original gigs he did better than Stotts and showed noticeable improvement on those teams.

Then he got canned, joined another staff, and has an opportunity to show that he has improved and learned even more.

Similar to Stotts (who was below .500 in his original stint and never showed the insane growth Kidd did), but his baseline was already higher than Stotts given what he showed previously.

Now I’m hesitant because I’m not super big on retreads, but Kidd and/or Clifford would be great hires basketball wise in my opinion.

I would still prefer someone new but it’s undeniable that they’d be a step up from Stotts, in my opinion.
 
Find a coach represented by Andy Miller who is the new head of the coaching wing of klutch sports (Rich Paul). If we want to retain Nurk and lure more top players to the Blazers, let Klutch and Andy Miller have a win.
 
with Mike D'Antoni, you will get a good regular season, but the same iso shit in the Playoffs, and probably the same shitty defense, hard pass

 
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