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I genuinely like most the people in this forum, I’ll start with that. But man, venturing into these political discussions is like entering the twilight zone. What reality are people existing in? What news do they consume? Even on the cesspool of twitter, the left is coming to terms with the serious situation were in with our president’s cognitive state and putting their heads together on ways we can move forward. But, for some reason this forum is just like “nope, we’re all good here. This is what the president does. Our boy is killing it”
I legitimately become confused when i read comments here, and then have to run out and look at news and current events to make sure I wasn’t dreaming that Joe Biden was senile. Sure enough, every news outlet, social media outlet, podcast, left or right leaning form of ANY media is confirming what I’ve been seeing for the last couple years.
How are people here still imagining this fairytale of a sentient Biden? What am i missing here?

No one and I mean NO ONE here that is voting for Biden has said he is filled with vigor and immune from mistakes, etc.

This is why no one takes you seriously. You're creating a false position no one's taken and arguing against it.

You're doing it because you don't want to see that Trump is an even worse version of what you say Biden is cognitively, but, with the added features of complete immorality, stupidity and insanity.

It's not that Biden's great. It's that Trump is demonstrably awful. Guy can't even identify his wife in photos and skewers names worse than Biden but also tries to take away right from women and at-risk Americans and is a felon.

If you don't get that, then maybe the reason you think everyone else is in the Twilight Zone is because you aren't living in reality. I don't know what else to tell you. Maybe get informed and stop worshipping a loser.
 
He also wants to strip extremely important benefits from our health plans that would bankrupt families at no fault of their own simply because it was implemented by Obama.

And impartial analysts have said his proposed economic plan will raise inflation six times as much as Biden's plan.

His tax reform will raise federal income tax on most Americans by 5% while decreasing the tax on the wealthiest Americans.

I mean, I'm not sure where anyone sees anything good here if they have a partly functioning brain. As if messing up millions of lives and our economy because he was scared ishless during COVID and eventually was telling people to ingest bleach wasn't enough, in case bowing to autocrats in weaker countries wasn't enough, in case failing to get infrastructure done, in case not getting his wall because he didn't want to accept the House Dems deal for the funding in exchange for a path to citizenship for Dreamers, you have all this and his cognitive issues and his psychopathy ... maybe gassing protesters so he can take a photo outside a church that didn't give him permission to be there holding an upside down Bible appeals to them, I don't know.
 
No one and I mean NO ONE here that is voting for Biden has said he is filled with vigor and immune from mistakes, etc.

This is why no one takes you seriously. You're creating a false position no one's taken and arguing against it.

You're doing it because you don't want to see that Trump is an even worse version of what you say Biden is cognitively, but, with the added features of complete immorality, stupidity and insanity.

It's not that Biden's great. It's that Trump is demonstrably awful. Guy can't even identify his wife in photos and skewers names worse than Biden but also tries to take away right from women and at-risk Americans and is a felon.

If you don't get that, then maybe the reason you think everyone else is in the Twilight Zone is because you aren't living in reality. I don't know what else to tell you. Maybe get informed and stop worshipping a loser.

Yeah, its not that complex
 
I have lived long enough to outlast presidents with bad policies. Terrible policies. Policies that caused great harm.

In a democracy you can work to change bad policies.

So we can list all Trump's terrible policies. And should. What differentiates him from Bush, Reagan, and would be presidents McCain and Romney is that those other people did at least imperfectly support constitutional democracy. Trump does not. He has said so. Talks about post Constitution America.

Not one I want to live in. Not one in which I would be welcome.
I am female, Jewish, gay. I can't afford to say no difference.
 
Trump figured he'd get a good laugh out of Biden saying "vice president Trump" in presser. Biden replied in tweet of course he knows the difference. One is a prosecutor and the other a felon.
 
Where did I say this?
as long as my family doesn’t have to deal with the daily bombardment of hate and cruelty from Trump
Sounds an awful lot like what you said. But I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and chalk it up to you just being a primadonna and greatly exaggerating Trumps torment of your family.

I could never imagine some loser in the White House, on either side, ‘affecting’ my family to the point where I’d whine like this.
 
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And there are three consecutive examples of someone boasting about their own L without realizing it. No self-awareness at all.
 
Not even close, brah.

Trump is up there. Along with Hoover and Ford.

I’d put Reagan toward the worst as well. He was really the start of douchebag conservative policy.

To be fair Biden isn’t worse than Wilson. Wilson is my vote for worst, hands down.
 
No one and I mean NO ONE here that is voting for Biden has said he is filled with vigor and immune from mistakes, etc.

Biden is filled with vigor and immune from mistakes!

(HAHAHA! Proved you wrong!)
 
Sounds an awful lot like what you said. But I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and chalk it up to you just being a primadonna and greatly exaggerating Trumps torment of your family.

I could never imagine some loser in the White House, on either side, ‘affecting’ my family to the point where I’d whine like this.

May I inquire as to which hue you live with?
 
Oregon U.S. Sen. Ron Wyden weighs in on Biden, 2024 presidential race



Ron sounds just like a politician. A lot of words, very little substance.
 
Oregon U.S. Sen. Ron Wyden weighs in on Biden, 2024 presidential race



Ron sounds just like a politician. A lot of words, very little substance.

Ron has actually done a TON for the state of Oregon over the past few decades. But you knew that right?
 
Ron has actually done a TON for the state of Oregon over the past few decades. But you knew that right?

But in a world that has no shades of grey, or if he does one thing that I disagree with or it goes against my personal interpretation of how things are done in government (and only I have the correct understanding of things) then he's no better than someone like Mitch McConnell or Neil Goldschmidt.

Even he does look like Super Dave Osborne, and he bit the head off of a bat once, so he's scum.
 
Sounds an awful lot like what you said. But I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and chalk it up to you just being a primadonna and greatly exaggerating Trumps torment of your family.

I could never imagine some loser in the White House, on either side, ‘affecting’ my family to the point where I’d whine like this.
Well, when his worshippers show up in public beating people they don't like (who are walking through the park, or waiting at the bus stop) it's a problem.

When there are wildfires caused by wind and lightning and his QAnon followers feel empowered enough to blame Antifa and BLM then set up armed checkpoints in Molalla, Estacada, etc, and threaten people trying to drive through who don't "look like they're from around here". Wonder how they know what people around there look like? Maybe skin too dark?

And those are just a few examples of the assholes Trump empowers making life more dangerous and miserable for everyone.

Well, unless they look like themselves, right?
 
Well, when his worshippers show up in public beating people they don't like (who are walking through the park, or waiting at the bus stop) it's a problem.

When there are wildfires caused by wind and lightning and his QAnon followers feel empowered enough to blame Antifa and BLM then set up armed checkpoints in Molalla, Estacada, etc, and threaten people trying to drive through who don't "look like they're from around here". Wonder how they know what people around there look like? Maybe skin too dark?

And those are just a few examples of the assholes Trump empowers making life more dangerous and miserable for everyone. Well, unless they look like themselves, right?
I was told the country wasn't racist before Obama, and it's all his fault. Oh and you can only be racist against white Christian men.

So I can understand why people don't think trumps behavior can be seen as intimidating or bullying, since they only people who are intimidating and bullies are liberals.

I mean, which party was in favor of slavery and which party made up most of the Confederate States?

Abraham Lincoln was a Republican, and he freed the slaves. Robert Byrd was racist and a democrat. And notice that we're a constitutional *republic*.

I'll take your apology on the air.
 
Biden hit all the right notes at Michigan rally. Talked of accomplishments. Warned what Trump has planned. Acknowledged age issue but said he mixes up names, Trump is a felon. Explained not enough to be against someone, you have to be for something and laid out goals for a second term. When pro Palestinian protesters interrupted he said let them speak. Then said new agreement being ironed out because war on Gaza has to end. He was fighting Joe. Said when knocked down get back up. Crowd loved it.
That is what people need. Doubters like him but need convincing.
 
Yeah that Michigan rally was pretty good. Wanted to mention it to give Joe some credit after player hating for a week straight. I stay out of the Russia/Ukraine/Gaza threads mostly because I am very anti-war, lean isolationist; and have Libertarian priors. I'd get eaten alive! But I really think Project 2025 being the headliner has buried the fact that if Trump gets another term, Netanyahu and the right wing lunatics in Israel can do whatever they please in Gaza. Biden hasn't done nearly enough to restrain Israel, but at least he has a limit.
 
Still have yet to see what policies would put Biden in the category of "worst of all time".
I don't know how much Biden is really running the show. People hyper-focus on the president but there's a large power structure aside from him. But he's clearly the most cognitively impaired president we've ever had. He's issued several illegal executive orders that have had to be stuck down by the courts. His corruption is blatant. The border issue alone, how he willingly encouraged and enabled it makes him a traitor to the country.
 
I don't know how much Biden is really running the show. People hyper-focus on the president but there's a large power structure aside from him. But he's clearly the most cognitively impaired president we've ever had. He's issued several illegal executive orders that have had to be stuck down by the courts. His corruption is blatant. The border issue alone, how he willingly encouraged and enabled it makes him a traitor to the country.

This is a joke, right?

His predecessor was even more cognitively impaired, did not have the proper support structure around him, failed miserably handling COVID (which cost millions of Americans their lives or health) and at getting his key-issue wall built, then he took the unprecedented step of trying to overthrow the election. He's promised to at least suspend the Constitution if he gets another term. THAT'S traitorous. Not having a border policy that you disagree with. Trying to take over the country with an armed mob is traitorous.

Anyone that can't recognize that needs to have their cognitive functions tested.

And, please, "illegal executive orders"? Good lord, do you know anything about how this country works? Every president issues executive orders and SCOTUS strikes down a few of them. By your definition, that means every president is engaging in illegality and therefore a traitor. And just don't casually ignore that the court currently is stacked against Biden by three Trump judges who were placed because Mitch McConnell circumvented more than 200 years of precedent from strictly partisan reasons.

Do yourself a favor. Take a civics course before your next post here. You're reaching a point where you're showing everyone you don't understand how the U.S. Constitution or government operate and that you hold some pretty unbecoming personal character traits on top of that.
 
I don't know how much Biden is really running the show. People hyper-focus on the president but there's a large power structure aside from him. But he's clearly the most cognitively impaired president we've ever had. He's issued several illegal executive orders that have had to be stuck down by the courts. His corruption is blatant. The border issue alone, how he willingly encouraged and enabled it makes him a traitor to the country.
You were obviously still the mistake in your daddy's left testicle during the 1980's. They were called "the Reagan Years" That was when we had the "most cognitively impaired president we've ever had". He didn't have good people around him and 40 years later the bill for his/their bullshit has come due, with a shit ton of interest. Trump doesn't have good people around himself either. Competence matters, regardless of who is wielding it.
 
Twilight Zone. You lefties still in denial about Biden. What are they putting in the water in Portland?
 

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