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It is funny. You could literally replace: "I would vote for Biden over Trump". With just about anything you want to, and anyone voting for Biden would still vote for it over Trump.

I suggest my pet rock from the 70's. I'd vote for it over both Trump and Biden. To borrow from Avatar: " A rock sees more".
 
Harris, if she ends up as nominee, would most likely pick a white male Midwestern running mate. Maybe Michigan senator Gary Peters. I'm sure there are others I can't think of off top of my head.

In 2020 Biden was about my 6th choice in primary but he was right candidate at right time. Not only had Trump botched COVID, and it was new so even most competent person would have made mistakes, he was totally without compassion. Since pandemic hit high population states first he was inclined to do nothing, they hadn't voted for him. His concern was how pandemic affected his re-election. Talked of inhaling bleach, said don't socially distance, pack churches Easter. Never visited people, never expressed compassion because he has none. After drama and chaos, Biden was steady, a bit dull, empathetic, competent. It was his moment.
He has done a good job with some exceptions, slow response to Gaza. He is a good person who doesn't deserve dissing. But looks like it's no longer his moment.
And reiterate, to dump Biden and bypass VP for someone white would be political suicide.

I've been hearing Mark Kelly from AZ as a choice for Kamala to pick as VP if she reaches the top of the ticket.
 
LOL! Now you want me to transcribe the video, which you obviously didn't watch, and point out the exact phrases.

Whatever clownboy. Live in your own reality.
Biden said it and so did Rachel Maddow. Neither one are virologists, and both of them either misunderstood what they're being told or misspoke.

No virologist or epidemiologist ever said the vaccine would remove the possibility of you catching COVID. They said it would decrease the likelihood of getting COVID (and thereby spreading it), and drastically decrease the likelihood of you getting seriously ill.

Which is exactly what it has done.
 
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You're the only one I've seen say that.



Really? Must have missed it.

It's all there between the three political threads. It's been retreaded again and again. It's pretty universally agrees on that Biden should retire. He's too old. But as long as it's him and Trump on the ticket well...

The Interesting thing is it's not just people on the left who refuse to vote for Trump here. Its also independents and conservatives.
 
Biden is toast....as far as I'm concerned, the dems have no shot with him at this point. If Pelosi, Schiff and Schumer all ask him to step down, it's pretty much assured he's lost his base. They should go find the biggest movie star they can get to knock Trump off the podium for good....ladies and gentlemen...president Tom Hanks! (Fill in the celebrity, it won't matter if they have any experience, they just need to be a better actor than the orange asshole. Apparently qualifications are no longer important anyway
Didn't Matthew McConaughey just announced that he wanted to get into politics?
 
Self fulfilling. Keep saying someone can't win and undecided/ swing voters less likely to vote for them. I mean, do these people want to lose? Had they immediately united around Biden as Republicans did convicted felon he would have emerged stronger.

Actual polls haven't changed, still toss up.

Still galling no one tells man with 34 felony convictions, legally liable for rape, hundreds of millions in civil and criminal penalties assessed, charity legally ruled a scam, university legally ruled a scam to quit the race. No, that is reserved for one who did nothing wrong, just got older.

According to Joy Reid, who talks to members of Congressional Black Caucus daily, there is concern some forces want not only to push out Biden but also push aside Harris. Which would be suicide.
Ask Bernie all about that...
 
Never have, never will. But apparently I'm still a right winger.

You want to vote for Trump, that's your right. You will make what you think is the best choice and so will everyone else.
 
Problem is no way to run controlled experiment. Can't have two elections under identical circumstances, one Biden vs Trump, one Harris vs Trump. So face it, we are all hypothesizing. It's why I get irritated at Bernie Sanders would certainly have beaten Trump in 2016 or even had the Blazers brought Sabonis here when first drafted they would have won championship. No alternative universe and when you change one variable you change many.

And no one knows what big or even seemingly small things are going to happen between now and November.

A long time ago in young days I was assessed that I should go into politics or science. There's a reason I chose science.
 
Harris, if she ends up as nominee, would most likely pick a white male Midwestern running mate. Maybe Michigan senator Gary Peters. I'm sure there are others I can't think of off top of my head.

In 2020 Biden was about my 6th choice in primary but he was right candidate at right time. Not only had Trump botched COVID, and it was new so even most competent person would have made mistakes, he was totally without compassion. Since pandemic hit high population states first he was inclined to do nothing, they hadn't voted for him. His concern was how pandemic affected his re-election. Talked of inhaling bleach, said don't socially distance, pack churches Easter. Never visited people, never expressed compassion because he has none. After drama and chaos, Biden was steady, a bit dull, empathetic, competent. It was his moment.
He has done a good job with some exceptions, slow response to Gaza. He is a good person who doesn't deserve dissing. But looks like it's no longer his moment.
And reiterate, to dump Biden and bypass VP for someone white would be political suicide.

Harris is the smart choice if Biden steps aside/is forced out. She basically continues the Biden stance and campaign on every issue, and even on his worst night at the debate, Biden scored big against Trump on policy.

I suspect Biden even will campaign for her. He's always been a team player.

Next to Michelle Obama, Kamala Harris is Trump's biggest campaign challenge. Although his base would be fine with it, non-MAGA Trump supporters like suburban women or African-Americans might see Trump's typical ploy of personal attacks against political opponents as bullying, and it would quickly wash away any inroads he might have made with those communities.

Conversely, not being aggressive with Harris might dowse a bit of his fanatical base's enthusiasm. Trump has a very small needle to thread and almost will need a major Democratic screw-up -- not out of the question, BTW -- to win.

Harris brings the age/cognitive ability issue firmly onto the Democratic hand to play. Trump knows this. There was a reason he didn't jump to use it after the debate; he's just as susceptible to it being used against him. Now it will be, along with Putin, Roe, Project 2025, Jan. 6, Stormy Daniels, E. Jean Carroll, conservative SCOTUS activists, COVID policy failings, enabling hate speech, inability to build the wall he promised and infrastructure, impeachments and felony convictions.

I figure the Dems will coalesce quickly around Harris and her VP (who will either be from the Northeast or Midwest to cover that base), and it all will be taken care of before the convention. After all, the biggest thing is she's not Trump and she's competent. Her favorability is about the same as Trump's but her disapproval rating is much lower. Once she's out there talking, I think left or centrists concerns will diminish.

There are reasons J.D. Vance is reluctant to debate her.

She's a nightmare for Trump. Maybe not my ideal choice or they way I'd like to have seen it play out, but she serves the purpose to keep a lunatic out of the Oval Office again.
 
If he drops out, she seems the best choice outside of Newsom.

But he can be VP.
 
Newson could not be VP under Harris because both are from same state. And he would not be additive. A Midwest white male with union ties or possibly Hispanic from Southwest. Not New England, it's pretty solidly Democratic.
 
Newson could not be VP under Harris because both are from same state. And he would not be additive. A Midwest white male with union ties or possibly Hispanic from Southwest. Not New England, it's pretty solidly Democratic.
My former classmate Ruben Gallego! who's currently running against Lake in AZ for Sinema's seat.
 
Newson could not be VP under Harris because both are from same state. And he would not be additive. A Midwest white male with union ties or possibly Hispanic from Southwest. Not New England, it's pretty solidly Democratic.

Well poop (about Newsom I mean).
 
My former classmate Ruben Gallego! who's currently running against Lake in AZ for Sinema's seat.
Democrats have to hold that seat. Wouldn't be anyone currently running.
 
Everyone with a pulse understands the disaster CA has become. It will be a long time before anyone from CA wins an election for President.
 
Everyone with a pulse understands the disaster CA has become. It will be a long time before anyone from CA wins an election for President.

Yeah. Disaster. Sure.
 
Oh, good lord. Our country is right of center of virtually every other developed democracy. Communist? I hate it when you kids play with words you don't know the meaning of.

Save your jingoism for something else, Senator McCarthy.

Did you know there is a communist grocery store in Oregon City? The Winco is communist because the employees own it. "The People!" It also proves what a failure communism is because stores like Safeway and Fred Meyer are so much nicer.

- Facebook rant from someone I went to school with
 
Did you know there is a communist grocery store in Oregon City? The Winco is communist because the employees own it. "The People!" It also proves what a failure communism is because stores like Safeway and Fred Meyer are so much nicer.

- Facebook rant from someone I went to school with

A better argument would be BiMart, since it's kind of dumpy.

But WinCo is fucking awesome, and their prices are much better than FM and ESPECIALLY Safeway.

I swear, there are so many stupid people out there.
 
Did you know there is a communist grocery store in Oregon City? The Winco is communist because the employees own it. "The People!" It also proves what a failure communism is because stores like Safeway and Fred Meyer are so much nicer.

- Facebook rant from someone I went to school with

Maybe if they would have come up with a catchier name. Something like "Trotsky's."
 

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