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Chris Craig said:
Joe Manchin considering throwing his hat in the ring for the nomination.
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Didn't he quit the party recently? Was anyone even a bit sorry to see him leave? I kinda doubt it.

barfo
 
I highly doubt Vance would be the VP pick Trump would've made if Biden dropped out a few days after the debate. Trump is locked in with this Thiel lab experiment who wears guyliner and hates women. Terrible foresight on his part.
 
beast crnjo said:
You have to wonder if they didn't plan this before hand, so that the selection could be made via delgates rather than popular vote.
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This is the party that blatantly rigged previous primaries, then just all out cancelled this one. Delegates will choose, not voters. But that’s ok because the leftist voters will cope and explain to you why they deserve to get bent over and how it was actually a good thing snd didn’t feel too bad. That’s how the DNC operates, despite all democrats fake screaming about threats to democracy. These people have no shame, every throat will be slit in the pursuit of putting whatever pro war establishment ghoul seems the most electable.
 
jonnyboy said:
This is the party that blatantly rigged previous primaries, then just all out cancelled this one. Delegates will choose, not voters. But that’s ok because the leftist voters will cope and explain to you why they deserve to get bent over and how it was actually a good thing snd didn’t feel too bad. That’s how the DNC operates, despite all democrats fake screaming about threats to democracy. These people have no shame, every throat will be slit in the pursuit of putting whatever pro war establishment ghoul seems the most electable.
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The Democrats are following the rules. Just curious, what process do you suppose the Republicans would have used if the shooter’s bullet had been an inch or so to the right?
 
e_blazer said:
The Democrats are following the rules. Just curious, what process do you suppose the Republicans would have used if the shooter’s bullet had been an inch or so to the right?
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The Republicans, despite all their suckage, actually allowed a primary to take place. Biden wasn’t assassinated either so it isn’t any kind of parallel comparison. He had to step down after years of gaslighting about his mental state quit working on the public. Now all the people who gaslit you that whole time are brushing aside the fact they vehemently denied reality, and what we all saw today was the receipt letting those of us with eyeballs know we were correct the whole time.

This forum is a great petrie dish to examine the effectiveness of a media gaslighting campaign. This whole place denied any type of degradation of Bidens mental state to the very last day. Now he had to step down because of it LOL. A sitting president just had to step down for the exact thing you all shit on the minority here for daring to suggest might be true. And like everything else everyone here has been wrong about, we’ll all just move on the the next bad take and pretend the last one didn’t happen.
I love this place. It’s such a case study. It’s like the prequel to 1984.
 
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jonnyboy said:
The Republicans, despite all their suckage, actually allowed a primary to take place. Biden wasn’t assassinated either so it isn’t any kind of parallel comparison. He had to step down after years of gaslighting about his mental state quit working on the public. Now all the people who gaslit you that whole time are brushing aside the fact they vehemently denied reality, and what we all saw today was the receipt letting those of us with eyeballs know we were correct the whole time.

This forum is a great petrie dish to examine the effectiveness of a media gaslighting campaign. This whole place denied any type of degradation of Bidens mental state to the very last day. Now he had to step down because of it LOL. A sitting president just had to step down for the exact thing you all shit on the minority here for daring to suggest might be true. And like everything else everyone here has been wrong about, we’ll all just move on the the next bad take and pretend the last one didn’t happen.
I love this place. It’s such a case study. It’s like the prequel to 1984.
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Nice dodge of the question you were asked.

Also, you are engaging in a bit of gaslighting here yourself. The Democratic party had primaries this year, you can read about them here if you are really suffering from early-onset dementia.

barfo
 
barfo said:
Nice dodge of the question you were asked.

Also, you are engaging in a bit of gaslighting here yourself. The Democratic party had primaries this year, you can read about them here if you are really suffering from early-onset dementia.
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But people who voted for Biden don't get to change their vote. He disenfranchised them in a very real way. They weren't voting for Biden-Harris (whereas, money often was given to the ticket as a whole).

It's all part of the process, but for a party that has claimed they're the only hope for democracy in our country, it's ironic that this will be the least-democratic major presidential nominee since... gosh, I don't even know. The modern era started in 1984 or so, but I don't know the last time a Dem or GOP nominee will have received fewer votes in the primary process.
 
I like Kentucky’s Andy Beshear and Pennsylvania’s Josh Shapiro either as Presidential candidates or VP selection.
If either would have been in a real dem primary they would have been very competitive.
 
Ed O said:
But people who voted for Biden don't get to change their vote. He disenfranchised them in a very real way. They weren't voting for Biden-Harris (whereas, money often was given to the ticket as a whole).

It's all part of the process, but for a party that has claimed they're the only hope for democracy in our country, it's ironic that this will be the least-democratic major presidential nominee since... gosh, I don't even know. The modern era started in 1984 or so, but I don't know the last time a Dem or GOP nominee will have received fewer votes in the primary process.
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Mountain, molehill.

I've been voting for 39 years, registered Dem for most of them although I vote for candidates from both major parties and independents.

Biden and Harris essentially are the same. He threw his support to her. His supporters aren't going to have to hold their nose to vote for her.

I voted Biden in the primary and wanted this handled better, but I have no problem with my "vote not counting." I'd have a bigger problem if the lunatic traitor on the other side got back in the WH and wrecked our country.

This is just more of that where we see Democrats being measured by perfection while MAGA can do literally anything and gets enabled because "well, it's Trump, what do you expect."
 
Ed O said:
But people who voted for Biden don't get to change their vote. He disenfranchised them in a very real way.
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But, not a novel or unfair or illegal way.

Candidates have withdrawn before. Candidates have died.

And, of course, some voters don't get their choice from the primaries because they get outvoted, either within their own state, or by people in other states.

barfo
 
If it were up to me, we'd have a national primary around Labor Day to pick the candidates, and then 2 months of campaign, and then the election.
There's no justification for a year-plus-long election cycle. Other countries seem to get along without it.

barfo
 
jonnyboy said:
The Republicans, despite all their suckage, actually allowed a primary to take place. Biden wasn’t assassinated either so it isn’t any kind of parallel comparison. He had to step down after years of gaslighting about his mental state quit working on the public. Now all the people who gaslit you that whole time are brushing aside the fact they vehemently denied reality, and what we all saw today was the receipt letting those of us with eyeballs know we were correct the whole time.

This forum is a great petrie dish to examine the effectiveness of a media gaslighting campaign. This whole place denied any type of degradation of Bidens mental state to the very last day. Now he had to step down because of it LOL. A sitting president just had to step down for the exact thing you all shit on the minority here for daring to suggest might be true. And like everything else everyone here has been wrong about, we’ll all just move on the the next bad take and pretend the last one didn’t happen.
I love this place. It’s such a case study. It’s like the prequel to 1984.
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Incumbent presidents are often allowed by their party a free, or virtually free, path through the primaries. In 1984, Reagan faced only token opposition from Harold Stassen in the primary. Ronnie got 6.5 million votes to around 12,000 for Stassen. George W. Bush, like Biden, faced no opposition in the primary for his second term. I hope the Democrats learned that there is a danger in this practice. Had Biden had to debate Democratic opponents in a primary, his aging issues would likely have been exposed in time for a better candidate to have been selected by the voters.
 
barfo said:
If it were up to me, we'd have a national primary around Labor Day to pick the candidates, and then 2 months of campaign, and then the election.
There's no justification for a year-plus-long election cycle. Other countries seem to get along without it.

barfo
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I've been saying this for years...most countries take from 6-8 weeks to run an election and ours seems to start from the 3rd year of the term and all through the last term..couple years and a gazillion dollars. By the time a president is sworn in from an 18 month long campaign, they're burned out already.
 
BigGameDamian said:
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I'm not the only one to notice this effort to rehabilitate Mitt Romney, right? Aaron Sorkin has an article on the NYT about the Dems nominating him in some dream sequence at the convention. How much weed would I need to smoke in one sitting to forget about Bain Capital? I assume I'm going to have to bust out the dab rig, at least.
 
Democrats are not going to nominate Romney although would accept his endorsement.
 
barfo said:
But, not a novel or unfair or illegal way.

Candidates have withdrawn before. Candidates have died.

And, of course, some voters don't get their choice from the primaries because they get outvoted, either within their own state, or by people in other states.

barfo
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This.

Candidates get delegates in primaries and realize they can't win and withdraw every presidential election and then endorse someone still in the race.
 
bulls_with_booz said:
I'm not the only one to notice this effort to rehabilitate Mitt Romney, right? Aaron Sorkin has an article on the NYT about the Dems nominating him in some dream sequence at the convention. How much weed would I need to smoke in one sitting to forget about Bain Capital? I assume I'm going to have to bust out the dab rig, at least.
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Morman women cannot go to heaven unless they are married to a Mormon man. Let's keep cults/religion out of politics.
 
riverman said:
I've been saying this for years...most countries take from 6-8 weeks to run an election and ours seems to start from the 3rd year of the term and all through the last term..couple years and a gazillion dollars. By the time a president is sworn in from an 18 month long campaign, they're burned out already.
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How could you ever hope to pull in as many campaign contributions in such a short time?
 
So who is Biden going to kill?

He's got the Supreme Court ruling and if Harris doesn't win the presidency he could also resign the week before his term ends and she could pardon him.

He could go out as a total gangster!
 
SlyPokerDog said:
So who is Biden going to kill?

He's got the Supreme Court ruling and if Harris doesn't win the presidency he could also resign the week before his term ends and she could pardon him.

He could go out as a total gangster!
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Also, in the last week of his presidency, he should make up a project name and issue pardons for it to people like the Clintons, Pelosi, Schumer, toss out like 50 names for something like Operation Rabid Dog, and let the Magas go insane.
 
barfo said:
But, not a novel or unfair or illegal way.

Candidates have withdrawn before. Candidates have died.

And, of course, some voters don't get their choice from the primaries because they get outvoted, either within their own state, or by people in other states.

barfo
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barfo said:
If it were up to me, we'd have a national primary around Labor Day to pick the candidates, and then 2 months of campaign, and then the election.
There's no justification for a year-plus-long election cycle. Other countries seem to get along without it.

barfo
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“The process is not unfair at all, here’s what I would do to make the process more fair”.
 
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