Politics The Joe Biden Thread

[beast blazer]

FTFY.

barfo

I get it, very cute. Anyone who doesn't like deranged leftist politics is a Nazi. Meanwhile, you've become fans of Dick Cheany.

I actually don't like mustaches, unless it's part of a full beard.

 

[MickZagger]

I don't really like presents or cards. I buy whatever I want. I like guns, knives, punching bags, steak, fish oil, whey protein, big dogs, trees, cave paintings and the show Ancient Apocalypse on Netflix.

Teenage “I wanna blow up my school” starter pack type stuff.

Shocking.

 

[MickZagger]

You don’t receive a lot of Christmas cards I’m thinking.

He sent me one last year:

 

[beast blazer]

Teenage “I wanna blow up my school” starter pack type stuff.

Shocking.

Whey protein?

 

[crandc]

Squeezed in annual remote meeting with financial advisor. On the past year I withdrew about $31,000 from retirement account. In the same period it gained over $100,000 in value. Who came here and blamed Biden for his 401(k) tanking?

 

[MickZagger]

Way off Biden topic but on subject of very old beer, archeologists found pottery with traces of Neolithic (stone age) fermented matter. Dried of course but gas chromatography showed it was a form of beer. The scientists analyzed the molecular structure and recreated stone age beer.
It was dreadful.

Makes me want to crack open a beer as we speak

 

[crandc]

Another unsexy under the radar Biden policy.
Currently, physical stores are responsible for recall if a product they sell is deemed hazardous or malfunctioning. They have to contact customers and let them know, for example,that carbon monoxide detector doesn't work or that hair dryer short circuits and can cause fire. But online retail wasn't covered.
New rule extends responsibility for dangerous products to Amazon and other online retailers, who are required to contact customers. Naturally they plan to fight the rule.
Kind of shines more light on why Bezos vetoed Washington Post endorsement of Harris.

 

[crandc]

Former FBI agent pled guilty to lying about Bidens. He was source of false claim President Biden and Hunter Biden received bribes from Ukraine. He claimed Hunter Biden had been secretly recorded while staying at Ukraine hotel. Hunter Biden never stayed at that hotel. He was gleefully cited by Republican Congress members during failed Biden impeachment attempt and feted in right wing media. He has admitted the entire story was invented.
He also pled guilty to separate charges of income tax evasion on $2 million in income from unspecified source

 

[riverman]

Former FBI agent pled guilty to lying about Bidens. He was source of false claim President Biden and Hunter Biden received bribes from Ukraine. He claimed Hunter Biden had been secretly recorded while staying at Ukraine hotel. Hunter Biden never stayed at that hotel. He was gleefully cited by Republican Congress members during failed Biden impeachment attempt and feted in right wing media. He has admitted the entire story was invented.
He also pled guilty to separate charges of income tax evasion on $2 million in income from unspecified source

I brought this up the day he plead guilty. His name is Alexander Smirnov.

 

[crandc]

I brought this up the day he plead guilty. His name is Alexander Smirnov.

Yep. Being sentenced. Haven't heard any Republican apologizing....

 

[Chris Craig]

Yep. Being sentenced. Haven't heard any Republican apologizing....

And you won't

 

[Sheldon Shape]

Another unsexy under the radar Biden policy.
Currently, physical stores are responsible for recall if a product they sell is deemed hazardous or malfunctioning. They have to contact customers and let them know, for example,that carbon monoxide detector doesn't work or that hair dryer short circuits and can cause fire. But online retail wasn't covered.
New rule extends responsibility for dangerous products to Amazon and other online retailers, who are required to contact customers. Naturally they plan to fight the rule.
Kind of shines more light on why Bezos vetoed Washington Post endorsement of Harris.

They are required or what? A fine? This is pretty irrelevant and Biden knows it. Asking corporations to police themselves is a joke. It's likely cheaper for them to pay the fine than to implement a system that would notify customers of any wrong doing.

 

[riverman]

They are required or what? A fine?

more than likely, multiple lawsuits which would not be cheap to deal with. I won one of those with Home Depot once.

 

[barfo]

They are required or what? A fine?

They can be held liable for damages caused by the faulty product.

This is pretty irrelevant and Biden knows it. Asking corporations to police themselves is a joke.

It's not asking them to police themselves. In fact, that's literally the opposite of what regulations are.

It's likely cheaper for them to pay the fine than to implement a system that would notify customers of any wrong doing.

That may or may not be true, but even if it was, wouldn't it be better to extract a fine than to do nothing at all?
Even if the fine did nothing to discourage bad behavior, it would at least provide some revenue for the government that doesn't have to come from taxpayers.

barfo

 

[Sheldon Shape]

They can be held liable for damages caused by the faulty product.



It's not asking them to police themselves. In fact, that's literally the opposite of what regulations are.



That may or may not be true, but even if it was, wouldn't it be better to extract a fine than to do nothing at all?
Even if the fine did nothing to discourage bad behavior, it would at least provide some revenue for the government that doesn't have to come from taxpayers.

barfo

It's in their budget. This was Johnson & Johnson's calculation when they knowingly sold products that were cancer causing. Cheaper to deal with fines/suits later. We're really digging for compliments if this is what the Biden administration's legacy is supposed to be.

 

[riverman]

It's in their budget. This was Johnson & Johnson's calculation when they knowingly sold products that were cancer causing. Cheaper to deal with fines/suits later. We're really digging for compliments if this is what the Biden administration's legacy is supposed to be.

At this point Biden's legacy will be that of the guy who choked during the debate and lost the presidency to the worst candidate ever to run for office. His foreign diplomacy and economic success will not be remembered as Trump will dismantle it all in short order anyway.

 

[Sheldon Shape]

At this point Biden's legacy will be that of the guy who choked during the debate and lost the presidency to the worst candidate ever to run for office. His foreign diplomacy and economic success will not be remembered as Trump will dismantle it all in short order anyway.

That's funny. A genocide. Multiple wars under his watch. Poor economy. Go look at his approval rating. Biden and success do not go hand in hand. This is the problem when people have teams. They can't see straight.

 

[Sheldon Shape]

more than likely, multiple lawsuits which would not be cheap to deal with. I won one of those with Home Depot once.

They figure this into their budget. Not cheap for you and I, but part of operating costs. I'm glad you beat them.

 

[crandc]

President Biden commuted death sentences of 37 of the 40 people on federal death row to life without parole. President said he grieved fit their victims but could not do nothing knowing incoming administration would end federal moratorium on executions.

The three exceptions are Boston Marathon bomber, murderer of parishioners at Mother Emanuel Church and bomber of Tree of Life synagogue.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

 

[Phatguysrule]

This is why Democrats lose. They act like they want to do stuff like this for political games. Biden really has no intention or ability to do this without an act of Congress. And certainly not in a few weeks...



The Biden Administration is ‘cracking down’ on banks by imposing a $5 cap on overdraft fees, calling them ‘junk fees’

Overdraft transaction charges could drop to a maximum of $5 from the current ceiling of $35 as of Oct. 1, 2025, if the current iteration of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB) gets its way.

The limit on fees that banks and credit unions impose on clients whose account balances are insufficient to cover transactions would save U.S. consumers $5 billion every year, the federal agency said in a Dec.12, 2024, press release announcing its final ruling on the overdraft policy.

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[jlprk]

I'm sorry that your dainty little civilized pallet can't handle stone aged beer. But the stone ages were a time for manly men. They kept dire wolves as pets rather than tiny punt-dogs, had to fight of sabre tooth cats when they got up at night to take a piss and ate the raw hearts of the animals they hunted.

That's nothing. I drink my beer on the rocks, literally. I used to have to fight off my ex-wife at night when I got up to take a piss. And there are no pets living in my neighborhood, for long, anyway.

 

[crandc]

Why is capping overdraft fees a bad thing?

 

[Phatguysrule]

Why is capping overdraft fees a bad thing?

It's not. If there were actually any chance of it happening.

This is just an act.

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

I'm sorry that your dainty little civilized pallet can't handle stone aged beer. But the stone ages were a time for manly men. They kept dire wolves as pets rather than tiny punt-dogs, had to fight of sabre tooth cats when they got up at night to take a piss and ate the raw hearts of the animals they hunted.

What the fuck is Jesse Watters doing hanging out on a podunk, basketball message board hidden away up in Liberal Land?? We are not worthy........

 

[barfo]

It's not. If there were actually any chance of it happening.

This is just an act.

No. It might not survive the Trump administration, but that doesn't make it 'an act'.

You assume everyone acts in bad faith, but this has been in the works since long before the election. Had Trump not gotten elected, these rules would survive for at least 4 years. Maybe longer.

barfo

 

[Phatguysrule]

No. It might not survive the Trump administration, but that doesn't make it 'an act'.

You assume everyone acts in bad faith, but this has been in the works since long before the election. Had Trump not gotten elected, these rules would survive for at least 4 years. Maybe longer.

barfo

If it were serious he wouldn't have proposed it with 20 days left on the job. If it was legit we would have enjoyed the benefits for the last 4 years.

Yes, I look at anything proposed the way this was as a bad faith act. Because it very obviously is.

 

[barfo]

If it were serious he wouldn't have proposed it with 20 days left on the job. If it was legit we would have enjoyed the benefits for the last 4 years.

Yes, I look at anything proposed the way this was as a bad faith act. Because it very obviously is.

"He" didn't propose it. Nor was it proposed at the end of the administration. The Consumer Finance Protection Bureau proposed it, last January.
Then, of course, there was a bureaucratic process for approving it.

Could they have proposed it in 2021 instead of 2024? I imagine so.
Did they wait to propose it until 2024, knowing that 10 months later, Biden would lose the election to whomever the Republicans might nominate, and therefore it would never go into effect?

I'm thinking maybe that's not a reasonable interpretation of the facts at hand.

barfo

 

[Phatguysrule]

Right. Biden didn't do it all by himself. Which is why I specifically called out Dems in the original post.

They've made similar proposal in the past. But Democrats were afraid to lose campaign contributions by instituting changes that would actually stick around.

No doubt if Dems would have won this would have been shelved.

 

[barfo]

Right. Biden didn't do it all by himself. Which is why I specifically called out Dems in the original post.

They've made similar proposal in the past. But Democrats were afraid to lose campaign contributions by instituting changes that would actually stick around.

No doubt if Dems would have won this would have been shelved.

You, sir, are more cynical than even these times call for. Not everyone in government is a bad actor 100% of the time.

Are there any laws, proposals, regulations, or other actions of government during the Biden administration that you don't believe were made in bad faith?

barfo