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ABM said:
Great, then let justice take its due course and hope the truth - ALL of the truth comes out. Meanwhile, we have a new President we can begin focusing on moving forward.
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Funny how the MAGAts all want to “move forward” now after digging in their heels and being recalcitrant and arrogant assholes for the past 4 years. Hard to buy even a slice of hypocrisy now that the Republicans have cornered the market......
 
Moving forward will require accountability and restoration of the integrity of our democratic process....Trump folks need to accept that he lied about winning for once and for all and hold him accountable for the lies....that will start the unification of all Americans...until then there will be this cloud of a tainted election that was created by a liar. Defense attorneys get criminals off with the reasonable doubt defense.....that's what Trump uses to mask his obstructions and lies. He sows doubt around the facts and cites conspiracy theories ....impeaching him will do a lot to speed up the healing of our country.
 
UncleCliffy'sDaddy said:
Funny how the MAGAts all want to “move forward” now after digging in their heels and being recalcitrant and arrogant assholes for the past 4 years. Hard to buy even a slice of hypocrisy now that the Republicans have cornered the market......
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And funny how they were all about going after the Clintons years after the fact, but now? "hey, move on, I have"
 
UncleCliffy'sDaddy said:
Funny how the MAGAts all want to “move forward” now after digging in their heels and being recalcitrant and arrogant assholes for the past 4 years. Hard to buy even a slice of hypocrisy now that the Republicans have cornered the market......
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What's left to do, then, in your opinion?
 
ABM said:
What's left to do, then, in your opinion?
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recognize the truth and admit the lies were lies..show remorse for the MAGA attack on the Capitol and mean it. many have come forward and stated they regret their support after seeing where it led....those folks will see the truth...others will just cling to the shadows of doubt and disdain...I supported Chen Suei Bien as the first Taiwanese born president in Taiwan....he turned out to be a crook and went to prison....I can admit I was wrong about him and that my support was for the wrong reasons....I believed his lies. That's how you move on.
 
riverman said:
Oh don't get me wrong....I don't blame him for everything....I have a very, very long explicit list of things to blame Trump for....another for Rudy...another for McConnell...another for Cruz and Hawley....another for that bat shit crazy Q Anon lady from Georgia.the Proud Boys...the Aryan Brotherhood, the Neo Nazis......it's not an exclusive Trump list although it does contain a few Trumps....Flynn..Bannon...Stone....there's a whole cult of dangerous assholes I want held accountable...now we can weed them out of the forum of public opinion for good.
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It would be nice if we could weed them ALL out for good and hold them ALL accountable but unfortunately, That's just not how reality is going to work.
 
riverman said:
recognize the truth and admit the lies were lies..show remorse for the MAGA attack on the Capitol and mean it. many have come forward and stated they regret their support after seeing where it led....those folks will see the truth...others will just cling to the shadows of doubt and disdain...I supported Chen Suei Bien as the first Taiwanese born president in Taiwan....he turned out to be a crook and went to prison....I can admit I was wrong about him and that my support was for the wrong reasons....I believed his lies. That's how you move on.
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The attack on the Capitol was terrible. While there were many peaceful protestors, there were also antagonists and criminals. Trump needs to take accountability for his choice of words. If that ends in a second impeachment, so be it.
 
ABM said:
The attack on the Capitol was terrible. While there were many peaceful protestors, there were also antagonists and criminals. Trump needs to take accountability for his choice of words. If that ends in a second impeachment, so be it.
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Now you're cookin'!
 
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He's pushing this bipartisan stuff and it's exactly what Barack did in the first part of his tenure. It's not gonna happen with the Turtle leading the charge in the GOP senate.

Just say fuck it and push that agenda down their throats. We have the majority. It's the only way to move this country forward. I want everything. More environmental regulation, stimulus package, pack the court. Just fucking do it. Improve peoples lives and they'll realize how crooked the GOP is for holding them back.
 
illmatic99 said:
He's pushing this bipartisan stuff and it's exactly what Barack did in the first part of his tenure. It's not gonna happen with the Turtle leading the charge in the GOP senate.

Just say fuck it and push that agenda down their throats. We have the majority. It's the only way to move this country forward. I want everything. More environmental regulation, stimulus package, pack the court. Just fucking do it. Improve peoples lives and they'll realize how crooked the GOP is for holding them back.
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that's the funny thing about Obamas Presidency. The GOP likes to paint him as a liberal, socialist, etc, but really, he was at best a centrist. Same with Biden.

When a Democrat is in office, Republicans demand that the Democrats capitulate to their side, no matter who is in charge of the house or senate.

And when a Republican is in office, Republicans demand that the Democrats capitulate to their side, no matter who is in charge of the house or senate.

And in both cases, the Democrat wilts under pressure because they actually have a conscience and care more about getting the approval of the GOP/conservatives than they do their own party.
 
julius said:
that's the funny thing about Obamas Presidency. The GOP likes to paint him as a liberal, socialist, etc, but really, he was at best a centrist. Same with Biden.

When a Democrat is in office, Republicans demand that the Democrats capitulate to their side, no matter who is in charge of the house or senate.

And when a Republican is in office, Republicans demand that the Democrats capitulate to their side, no matter who is in charge of the house or senate.

And in both cases, the Democrat wilts under pressure because they actually have a conscience and care more about getting the approval of the GOP/conservatives than they do their own party.
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The system is designed with checks and balances if any one party/person goes awry. No matter what happens, Biden still has a mandate from 81 million people and 7 million more than his opponent. Not to mention the majority in the House as well, and the recent wins in the Senate. His conscience should be clear.

The Biden Agenda is exactly what the people want. Give it to them and tell Mitch to kick rocks. McConnell hasn't passed a single meaningful bill in his tenure as leader. Don't let him impede progress anymore.
 
illmatic99 said:
The system is designed with checks and balances if any one party/person goes awry. No matter what happens, Biden still has a mandate from 81 million people and 7 million more than his opponent. Not to mention the majority in the House as well, and the recent wins in the Senate. His conscience should be clear.

The Biden Agenda is exactly what the people want. Give it to them and tell Mitch to kick rocks. McConnell hasn't passed a single meaningful bill in his tenure as leader. Don't let him impede progress anymore.
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oh, I 100% agree with you about this, I'm just saying that D's tend to waffle a lot. It's one of my biggest pet peeves about them.
 
julius said:
oh, I 100% agree with you about this, I'm just saying that D's tend to waffle a lot. It's one of my biggest pet peeves about them.
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They tend to waffle a lot because they still believe that the approval of the American people matters. And it kind of does matter for them--Republicans are more immune to having to actually care what Americans think due to gerrymandering and the fact that the set up of the Senate and Electoral College gives small state voters more political power than large state voters. So Republicans can engage in extreme, largely unpopular actions without having to pay much of a price, whereas Democrats are much more likely to lose elections if they do the same.
 
Road Ratt said:
CNN, Media Puts North Korean TV To Shame With Fawning Biden Coverage.

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I like your post but these two are not a favorite for me. Somehow I thought of them as teenagers talking at their sleepover.
 
Joe Biden has signed a flurry of executive orders. I do not abide to a few of them.
The immigration floodgate is a concern for all of us. The influx of people that plagued Germany, France, Italy, Belgium and the US was well documented. The positive Covid 19 aspect is a blockade for sure. I feel if someone comes here, they should have a skillset that contributes to our society and be enrolled into the taxpayer system just like we all have to expect ourselves. They should be assigned a SS# and earn their keep. If I have to fill out tax returns, so should a new citizen. Education should be paid for by them, not given when our citizens are denied, placed outside of these opportunities or turned away by biased affirmative action groups.

Point 2: The Pennsylvania pipe line from Canada should continue. Massive amounts of money were infused into this project with two countries depending on the benefits this energy flow project would distribute. The Alaskan oil pipe line was created decades ago and with these experiences we should have a fail safe system. Fracking jobs should not be torn away from the common Joes that seek a two week paycheck. Eventually, programs should be instituted aimed towards capping these wells. Meanwhile production should continue only in areas that are established and considered safe from massive water pollution, which is likely to occur.

Bottom Line: Otherwise, I am happy to have a leader that can be associated as an open transparent people's president rather a self absorbed egotistical dis honest asshole like Trump. Some of Joe's agenda I do not agree with but his leadership and human qualities are highly important to me. You have to look at the big picture and determine how safe you feel as an American citizen. You may not agree with everything but you know your faith in your leader is of paramount importance and he is strong.
 
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