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yuyuza1 said:
About 17, and 8 for Aminu, so we'd have about 15 left for either a trade or FA.

Gay? Would Sac give us a pick to take on his contract?

Dame/Henderson/Gay/Monroe/Plums

with CJ/Aminu/Vonleh/Leonard off the bench.

So about 45 wins?
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I'm sorry, are you complaining that we could have three starters worth a combined $40-50M/year in salary walk away in free agency from a team just one year away from having a historically bad bench, and "only" regress by 6 wins according to your likely overly conservative estimate? I'd say a 45-win team in that circumstance would be cause for celebration.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Interesting...

Dame
Green
Aminu
LA
Hibbert

That's actually a pretty good defensive team. I think that team could compete in the west.
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Couldn't we get Wes/Rolo for the same price as Green/Hibbert? I'd rather have those two back. Hibbert is way over paid for what he brings and I love Wes. Due to his injury will another team really pay him significantly more than $10/year? He really seems to be on track but will he be healthy enough come early July for teams to throw money at him? At this point it's still a gamble. Once his market price is set I hope the Blazers go after him, him and Aldridge seem pretty tight.


Count me in the group that thinks Monroe isn't a good fit, at least if we bring Aldridge back. The problem with our defense last year was our guards/wings allowed penetration and Rolo always had to always come and help. Monroe would not be as good at that as Rolo IMO. Hibbert might be slightly better but only marginally and he's making $15m a year. Chandler is too old and Jordan is no longer a possibility, so barring a trade let's bring Rolo back if LA resigns. He's a great fit, doesn't need/want to score much since we've got two all-stars (IF LA come back). Plus, he stands sideways when he shoots free-throws and that's pretty damn cool.

Of course if LA doesn't resign, then fuck if I know.
 
noknobs said:
Couldn't we get Wes/Rolo for the same price as Green/Hibbert? I'd rather have those two back. Hibbert is way over paid for what he brings and I love Wes. Due to his injury will another team really pay him significantly more than $10/year? He really seems to be on track but will he be healthy enough come early July for teams to throw money at him? At this point it's still a gamble. Once his market price is set I hope the Blazers go after him, him and Aldridge seem pretty tight.


Count me in the group that thinks Monroe isn't a good fit, at least if we bring Aldridge back. The problem with our defense last year was our guards/wings allowed penetration and Rolo always had to always come and help. Monroe would not be as good at that as Rolo IMO. Hibbert might be slightly better but only marginally and he's making $15m a year. Chandler is too old and Jordan is no longer a possibility, so barring a trade let's bring Rolo back if LA resigns. He's a great fit, doesn't need/want to score much since we've got two all-stars (IF LA come back). Plus, he stands sideways when he shoots free-throws and that's pretty damn cool.

Of course if LA doesn't resign, then fuck if I know.
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Pre-Achilles injury Wes? Absolutely.

Current Wes? I just don't know. There's just so much risk with giving him the contract that he wants.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
I'm sorry, are you complaining that we could have three starters worth a combined $40-50M/year in salary walk away in free agency from a team just one year away from having a historically bad bench, and "only" regress by 6 wins according to your likely overly conservative estimate? I'd say a 45-win team in that circumstance would be cause for celebration.
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Not complaining at all. Where did you get that tone from my post? Legitimately wondering if it's worth it vs tearing it apart completely and going after picks if LA leaves.

Just remarking that 45 could potentially be equivalent of NBA purgatory.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Pre-Achilles injury Wes? Absolutely.

Current Wes? I just don't know. There's just so much risk with giving him the contract that he wants.
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Everything's a gamble. I agree it's a big risk, and no way am I saying pay him $15 million a year, but he seems to be doing so well with his recovery to this point. I think it all depends on what other teams offer him and go from there.
 
noknobs said:
Couldn't we get Wes/Rolo for the same price as Green/Hibbert? I'd rather have those two back. Hibbert is way over paid for what he brings and I love Wes. Due to his injury will another team really pay him significantly more than $10/year? He really seems to be on track but will he be healthy enough come early July for teams to throw money at him? At this point it's still a gamble. Once his market price is set I hope the Blazers go after him, him and Aldridge seem pretty tight.


Count me in the group that thinks Monroe isn't a good fit, at least if we bring Aldridge back. The problem with our defense last year was our guards/wings allowed penetration and Rolo always had to always come and help. Monroe would not be as good at that as Rolo IMO. Hibbert might be slightly better but only marginally and he's making $15m a year. Chandler is too old and Jordan is no longer a possibility, so barring a trade let's bring Rolo back if LA resigns. He's a great fit, doesn't need/want to score much since we've got two all-stars (IF LA come back). Plus, he stands sideways when he shoots free-throws and that's pretty damn cool.

Of course if LA doesn't resign, then fuck if I know.
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Keep in mind that Hibbert only makes 15 mil for one year. He will be on contract year, so that's added incentive. If he doesn't pan out, then his salary figure would drop drastically.

The real reason why you make a move like this is to keep Aldridge and Aldridge only. If Aldridge requests a player like Hibbert, then you do what you can to get him back.

For all we know, Aldridge may have expressed that he wilt resign with this team if we don't get certain players. That leaves the higher cap hold players (Matthews, Lopez) out of the loop.
 
Deng is staying with the Heat, so cross him off of the potential Batum replacements.
 
magnifier661 said:
You son of a bitch! You beat me!
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yuyuza1 said:
Not complaining at all. Where did you get that tone from my post? Legitimately wondering if it's worth it vs tearing it apart completely and going after picks if LA leaves.

Just remarking that 45 could potentially be equivalent of NBA purgatory.
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Sorry, was basing that on the "bleh" in your prior summary post.

My mistake.
 
Afflalo and Melo have a history, I believe.

Think that could make them a playoff team if they land both of em. A shitty playoff team, but a playoff team nonetheless
 
Natebishop3 said:
That's fine, and I hope he gets his big payday, but I just really don't want to see the Blazers invest a ton of money into someone that might not come back at full strength.
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I don't see any team in the league investing big multi year money in Wes. Do you think the Lakers will sacrifice cap room for Durant to have Wes be their only free agent addition this summer? The Knicks only have room for one $15million contract; Wes and Melo and the Latvian kid aren't carrying a team anywhere. Is Dallas letting Chandler and Ellis walk to bring in Wes as their main free agent acquisition? I don't think so. I don't see one team that it makes sense adding Wes to their roster at $15 million per year. Also with us not offering him that type of long term deal it'll be a red flag to other teams.

I would like to get $15 million a year too but when it doesn't happen I go back to my job. I expect when Wes doesn't get that huge payday he'd ideally like he signs here for a short term deal, tries to prove he's healthy, then aims to cash in on the TV money next summer.
 
http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm

109. What is tampering?
Tampering is when a player or team directly or indirectly entices, induces or persuades anybody (player, general manager, etc.) who is under contract with another team in order to negotiate for their services. The NBA may impose suspensions and/or fines up to $50,000 if tampering is discovered, however the league's practice has been to wait until a team lodges a complaint before investigating (but that's not to say they don't continue to monitor the league and won't take action independently if they discover that tampering has occurred). Here are some examples:
 
Draco said:
I don't see any team in the league investing big multi year money in Wes. Do you think the Lakers will sacrifice cap room for Durant to have Wes be their only free agent addition this summer? The Knicks only have room for one $15million contract; Wes and Melo and the Latvian kid aren't carrying a team anywhere. Is Dallas letting Chandler and Ellis walk to bring in Wes as their main free agent acquisition? I don't think so. I don't see one team that it makes sense adding Wes to their roster at $15 million per year. Also with us not offering him that type of long term deal it'll be a red flag to other teams.

I would like to get $15 million a year too but when it doesn't happen I go back to my job. I expect when Wes doesn't get that huge payday he'd ideally like he signs here for a short term deal, tries to prove he's healthy, then aims to cash in on the TV money next summer.
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I could see a team like DET, or PHX (those level of teams more then those teams specifically) spending 12 MIL on Wes. It isn't 15 but it might be more then we still want to spend.
 
yuyuza1 said:
http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm

109. What is tampering?
Tampering is when a player or team directly or indirectly entices, induces or persuades anybody (player, general manager, etc.) who is under contract with another team in order to negotiate for their services. The NBA may impose suspensions and/or fines up to $50,000 if tampering is discovered, however the league's practice has been to wait until a team lodges a complaint before investigating (but that's not to say they don't continue to monitor the league and won't take action independently if they discover that tampering has occurred). Here are some examples:
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I stand corrected....
 
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