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BonesJones said:
If we "keep swapping coaches", how is that only about one coach? Anyway...
You cared enough to try to claim I criticized him for clicks.
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We had coaches prior to Stotts. In the past, we've changed coaches without the ability to identify and obtain a better replacement. Do you want me to break down some of the other instances of this prior to Stotts? Or do you want to keep inserting Stotts into this convo?

Sometimes you identify a pattern from past mistakes to predict the likelihood of success of future moves. Nothing is certain.
 
BonesJones said:
If we "keep swapping coaches", how is that only about one coach? Anyway...
You cared enough to try to claim I criticized him for clicks.
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I think the Blazers are the only professional sports team that endeavors in personally insulting fans who criticize the players and management. THAT'S WHAT FANS DO. It's called being emotionally attached to your favorite team. Swing over to a Knicks blog after a bad NYC outing. It's freaking hilarious how engaged the fans are.

It's always been more polite to rip on Coaching and management, then to go after players after a tough game. --- Bring up bad coaching or trades in Portland... geesh, how dare you!! You are just a fan, you are dumb. This Blazers organization runs like a clock, perfectly synchronized. -- Bring up a bad player performance... that's easy, the dig "go root for a different team if you don't like these Blazers" has been used for years in Portland.
 
Phatguysrule said:
I'm sure there are insiders that know a lot more guys, but this would be a start...

Zelimir 'Zeljko' Obradovic
Kenny Atkinson
Jordi Fernandez,
Darius Songaila,
Igor Kokoskov,
Dejan Milojevic,
Darko Rajakovic,
Ognjen Stojakovic,
Vitaly Potapenko.

I would also consider Becky Hammon. I'm not sure how that would work. A woman coaching men. NBA coaches do not have much leverage, and many guys don't have much respect for women.

I'd talk to all of them. The person with the best plan to develop a young team and build basketball culture and the ability to communicate it (including the best list of developmental and basketball minded assistants) would replace Billups.
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how do you know Billups doesn't have the best plan, but it was derailed by injuries?
 
BassPlaya said:
Amazing....isn't it? I turned to the wifey last night and said, "They're shooting 70% from 3 point range. We couldn't overcome this WITH everyone healthy".

I actually like how the coach is developing this team. The Thunder just....well...thundered us. The foul discrepancy is getting pretty ridiculous in my eyes as well.
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Any other coach…And i mean ANY other coach…. simply would not have allowed that to happen.

Off with Chaunceys head!

Clearly Sharpe isnt developing. Cleary Chauncey has been given a fair shake the last two years(tank,tank)
Clearly he didn't foresee the injuries piling up and having to insert gleague players as rotation players. But dammit. He shoulda had a plan for all this!!! We should see this plan in action on the court!!!
 
SharpeScooterShooter said:
how do you know Billups doesn't have the best plan, but it was derailed by injuries?
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Because it looked a lot like his plan last season when we were going to miss the playoffs before initiating the tank.

I don't know it's the case, but it looks like the case... And if it looks like a duck..
 
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Phatguysrule said:
Because it looked a lot like his plan last season when we were going to miss the playoffs before initiating the tank.

I don't know it's the case, but it looks like the case time... And if it looks like a duck..
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I don't see how anyone can think they know what they are seeing, considering the roster turnover and the injuries.
 
SharpeScooterShooter said:
I don't see how anyone can think they know what they are seeing, considering the roster turnover and the injuries.
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Exactly. I'm not interested in how good of a coach Billups is with a G-League roster.

I'd like to know how good of a coach he can be with a contending roster.
 
Tince said:
Exactly. I'm not interested in how good of a coach Billups is with a G-League roster.

I'd like to know how good of a coach he can be with a contending roster.
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we shouldn't evaluate Billups until the Blazers get really super good again. That's some serious job security. What if 5 years pass, and the 2028 Trail Blazers are still rebuilding, still losing for new rookies? Heck, we can't say nuthin negative about the coaching staff. Portland hasn't put the guys around Chauncey to compete at the highest level.
 
Whyachi said:
we shouldn't evaluate Billups until the Blazers get really super good again. That's some serious job security. What if 5 years pass, and the 2028 Trail Blazers are still rebuilding, still losing for new rookies? Heck, we can't say nuthin negative about the coaching staff. Portland hasn't put the guys around Chauncey to compete at the highest level.
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We can evaluate the entire time. I said "I'd LIKE to know how good of a coach he can be with a contending roster". I doubt I'll get my wish. Once we move off Billups near the end of his contract, I hope we're in a better position to identify and obtain a high quality coach. In the meantime, the organization will need to build a roster and operating in a way that would attract such a candidate.
 
e_blazer said:
My opinion is that Chauncey is secure for another year or two. Hiring another offensive oriented assistant coach is a different story. That could happen anytime.
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maybe Chauncey has another relative in the on deck circle? ~Lacey Billups has tremendous technical application in theoretic basketball. She's going to help the Blazers score buckets in bunches.
 
Whyachi said:
we shouldn't evaluate Billups until the Blazers get really super good again. That's some serious job security.
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"We" can evaluate stuff from sunrise to sunset but our discussions have absolutely nothing to do with whether a coach actually gets fired/extended... thank goodness. We're just talking, those in charge aren't listening nor should they be. They should be already so preoccupied paying attention to actual goings on which undoubtedly includes many important contextual details that we aren't privy to.

Not singling out you Whyachi just a statement of things in general, but I find the constant calling for the coach's head over the 20+ years I've been in this online Blazer community to be pretty silly. So much of those jobs happens outside our purview I prefer to stick to my lane and judge the talent as thats what I can observe. This Blazer team's focus should be on developing talent not winning the next game as they are a long ways away talent wise. I've expected this season to be a painful watch but am happy they're on a path to potentially competing again for the first time in over a decade. If all goes well this year is the planned on low point in their development as their talent is very young.

STOMP
 
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When does Ant return?

let Scoot get some G-league time, let’s get Ant back playing and perhaps we look at trading Grant after December 15th as well as Thybulle. Get more picks and vet expiring contracts.

start to position the roster for Summer additions
 
Rumor has it that Taylor Jenkins could be on the hot seat. Any interest there?
 
Tince said:
We had coaches prior to Stotts. In the past, we've changed coaches without the ability to identify and obtain a better replacement. Do you want me to break down some of the other instances of this prior to Stotts? Or do you want to keep inserting Stotts into this convo?

Sometimes you identify a pattern from past mistakes to predict the likelihood of success of future moves. Nothing is certain.
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Except we literally don't swap them out. The only times we've swapped full time coaches in the last 18 years involved Terry Stotts. So giving the board crap for wanting to swap coaches makes no sense to me.
 
BonesJones said:
Except we literally don't swap them out. The only times we've swapped full time coaches in the last 18 years involved Terry Stotts. So giving the board crap for wanting to swap coaches makes no sense to me.
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You think because Pritchard or Canales were stop gap coaches until a full time coach was hired, that we didn't go from Dunleavy to Cheeks, or Nate to Stotts, and that those exchanges can't evaluated? I guess that explains why this doesn't make sense to you.

I wasn't talking about Stotts specifically, so no matter how badly you want it to be the case, you're flat out wrong, again.
 
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Tince said:
You think because Pritchard or Canales were stop gap coaches until a full time coach was hired, that we didn't go from Dunleavy to Cheeks, or Nate to Stotts, and that those exchanges can't evaluated? I guess that explains why this doesn't make sense to you.

I wasn't talking about Stotts specifically, so no matter how badly you want it to be the case, you're flat out wrong, again.
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Never said anything about not being able to evaluate them. Thats my point, actually: people are evaluating Chauncey while you're making comments about "the board" finally finding a coach we like if we "keep swapping out coaches" which makes zero sense.
 
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BonesJones said:
Never said anything about not being able to evaluate them. Thats my point, actually: people are evaluating Chauncey while you're making comments about "the board" finally finding a coach we like if we "keep swapping out coaches" which makes zero sense.
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Not sure how to dumb it down for you any more than I have, so we'll just have to let it go without it making sense to you. I'm sure the board will appreciate it.
 
Seems like an average-at-best HC. The rosters he has been given have put him in a less than ideal situation, but his situational coaching has been underwhelming to say the least.

If we made the playoffs, I have no faith that he would outcoach the opponent.

I wouldn’t fire him because bringing in another HC with this roster would be pointless
 
Predator said:
Seems like an average-at-best HC. The rosters he has been given have put him in a less than ideal situation, but his situational coaching has been underwhelming to say the least.

If we made the playoffs, I have no faith that he would outcoach the opponent.

I wouldn’t fire him because bringing in another HC with this roster would be pointless
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Agreed on all fronts!
 
If I were a gambler I'd bet big that Chauncey won't win coach of the month all season ...that said if he keeps these guys playing like they have been for two games, I'll eat Chauncey crow again.
 
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