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SharpesTriumph said:
Trading for OG and Ayton could maximize the chances of winning a title in 3-7 years. You make it sounds like they're Dames age.

1. They both would be well in their prime in 3 years and possibly still very effective in 7 years.

2. Winning more games the next two years could improve Scoot Sharpe development significantly so they're better able to win sooner such as 3 years

3. The opportunity cost of having less win now players than OG or Ayton sounds very minor. If the Miami offer is 3 picks and the Toronto offer is 2 picks we didn't miss out on much

4. Even if the Blazers decide to trade OG or Ayton later it's very possible the return could be higher than their cost today.
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I don't think Ayton and OG are good enough to win a championship with Scoot and Sharpe unless Scoot and Sharpe become hall of fame level talents, and even then I think the Blazers have a greater chance of ending up with a better starting frontcourt by playing it slowly, thus maximizing their odds.
 
wizenheimer said:
1 hour and 16 minutes?....are there any cliff notes?
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worth the listen. highkin is the best Portland media person at the moment. But he provided a great summary of the situation and Portland's POV, but nothing earth shattering here.

I did also enjoy Toronto's perspective with the parallels of OG in Portland to Bridges in Brooklyn.
 
TBpup said:
That said, I don't think the Raptors give up Barnes, but if they want a title, I believe that would be the better move for them.
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good grief I'd love it if Portland could pry Barnes from them in a package for Dame. He impresses me every time I watch Toronto. He can defend most anyone, has superior athleticism & is such a solid complimentary player in his approach. Winner.

STOMP
 
Paul George: “As for as the Lakers, I wanted to go to LA. They didn’t make that happen, they didn’t put nothing together. And so, that’s in the back of my mind. That they didn’t trade for me."
 
BonesJones said:
I don't think Ayton and OG are good enough to win a championship with Scoot and Sharpe unless Scoot and Sharpe become hall of fame level talents, and even then I think the Blazers have a greater chance of ending up with a better starting frontcourt by playing it slowly, thus maximizing their odds.
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Who was the last team that won a title without HOF talents?

Reality is, one or the other (probably both) needs to be a hall of fame talent if we are ever going to win a title.
 
Phatguysrule said:
And yet, it's far better than Miami can offer...
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probably, although if the Miami offer included their 2028 & 2030 picks, unprotected, and a 2029 swap, unprotected, those could be extremely valuable picks

of course, that's 5-7 years away and it's not guaranteed Miami has offered that
 
wizenheimer said:
probably, although if the Miami offer included their 2028 & 2030 picks, unprotected, and a 2029 swap, unprotected, those could be extremely valuable picks

of course, that's 5-7 years away and it's not guaranteed Miami has offered that
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Yeah, those picks are probably too far out... or maybe not. Our guys would be 23-25ish...

So maybe...
 
How do we get over the hurdle of trying to convince OG that we won’t ever do to him what we are doing to Dame right now?

Doesn’t matter what you say, it’s hard to erase the fact that we traded role players to their preferred destinations but traded Dame for the most assets.
 
BankTeller said:
How do we get over the hurdle of trying to convince OG that we won’t ever do to him what we are doing to Dame right now?

Doesn’t matter what you say, it’s hard to erase the fact that we traded role players to their preferred destinations but traded Dame for the most assets.
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Poor poor Damian Lillard. Won’t SOMEONE think about Dame???
 
BankTeller said:
How do we get over the hurdle of trying to convince OG that we won’t ever do to him what we are doing to Dame right now?

Doesn’t matter what you say, it’s hard to erase the fact that we traded role players to their preferred destinations but traded Dame for the most assets.
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wut?

If any free agent prefers their teams kowtowing to bullshit pressure over building the best roster .... i don't want them. This is such a ridiculous notion. Stop listening to Chris Haynes.

After seeing these offers, Dame will be the first one to understand.
 
Phatguysrule said:
Who was the last team that won a title without HOF talents?

Reality is, one or the other (probably both) needs to be a hall of fame talent if we are ever going to win a title.
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And if they're not, and we embrace the rebuild and struggle, we'll have a higher likelihood of getting a HOF talent because we'll be drafting at the top.
 
inconceivable said:
OG as the centerpiece of Dame trade is the saddest thing
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Not really. There could be several teams willing to give up 2+ 1sts and a young prospect. If we get Dick, Thad, Boucher going to PHX with Nurk for Ayton, and an unprotected 1st + a pick swap from Toronto and can trade OG for another young guy and 2-3 unprotected 1sts, that’s a pretty good package.

Ayton, Dick, another young piece, Thad, 3-4 1sts + 1 swap for Dame and Nurk is a decent package.
 
illmatic99 said:
wut?

If any free agent prefers their teams kowtowing to bullshit pressure over building the best roster .... i don't want them. This is such a ridiculous notion. Stop listening to Chris Haynes.

After seeing these offers, Dame will be the first one to understand.
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No, dude, that’s exactly what I’m saying…

Why were we kowtowing to f’ing role players???
 
BonesJones said:
And if they're not, and we embrace the rebuild and struggle, we'll have a higher likelihood of getting a HOF talent because we'll be drafting at the top.
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The problem is, our window in the lottery is hopefully only a couple years. If Scoot and Shae don’t pop, we are going to be for a rough period of time. But assuming they do play as we hope and expect, this team should hopefully be crawling up and out of the bottom of the league.

This upcoming draft isn’t considered very good. The next one is better, but we can’t turn down valuable assets like OG just because we want to suck.
 
BankTeller said:
How do we get over the hurdle of trying to convince OG that we won’t ever do to him what we are doing to Dame right now?

Doesn’t matter what you say, it’s hard to erase the fact that we traded role players to their preferred destinations but traded Dame for the most assets.
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What in the hell are we doing to Dame????
 
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