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Natebishop3 said:
True, but unfortunately top 5 or top 10 doesn't guarantee anything. Top 5 just presents your best odds at drafting a superstar. We need a superstar.
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We need to either draft a superstar or have enough assets to trade for one.

The odds of drafting one (assuming we don't already have one on the roster) has decreased significantly over the last 11 games. So the strategy will probably need to shift to trading for one while maintaining enough championship caliber talent on the team.

At least, until we capitalize on our less than 0.4% chance of drafting a superstar late in the draft one of these seasons...
 
kjironman1 said:
By the way. I finally read the thread title. Guess the trade deadline came and went.
How did that go for all of you?

85 pages long and God knows how many hundreds of other pages on multiple threads full of statements exclaiming "We Need To Trade Ant, Grant, and Ayton.

Guess we gonna hold till the summer when they have better value right?
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They actually have worse value in the off-season.
 
Phatguysrule said:
We need to either draft a superstar or have enough assets to trade for one.

The odds of drafting one (assuming we don't already have one on the roster) has decreased significantly over the last 11 games. So the strategy will probably need to shift to trading for one while maintaining enough championship caliber talent on the team.

At least, until we capitalize on our less than 0.4% chance of drafting a superstar late in the draft one of these seasons...
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Trading for one is extremely hard.

#1 you have to have assets and unfortunately there are other teams who have more.

#2 the player has to be okay with coming to Portland.

#3 Stars are rarely traded, especially when they're just entering their prime. ESPECIALLY when they haven't even asked out. The Luka trade was insane.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Trading for one is extremely hard.

#1 you have to have assets and unfortunately there are other teams who have more.

#2 the player has to be okay with coming to Portland.

#3 Stars are rarely traded, especially when they're just entering their prime. ESPECIALLY when they haven't even asked out. The Luka trade was insane.
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Yeah... Not the most encouraging strategy in the world...
 
Phatguysrule said:
Now you've changed the discussion. We should have definitely been trying to get top 3 when tanking (That's a 50% chance of getting an All-Star). I said top 5 would be fine this year because it's such a loaded draft. Though, I've been fine with top 5 (30% to 40% chance of getting an All-Star) all along.

But I haven't been talking specifically about Flagg or Ace hardly at all, which was the claim you made (and the claim which I refuted).
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Oh please...
Okay. You are right and I am wrong. Hope that makes this go away.
 
SharpesTriumph said:
They didn't get multiple top5 picks in the same losing stretch as Phat is saying we should do. They were a decade or two apart.
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Huh? They tanked for Robinson. Then they tanked for Duncan. The original tankers were Houston. There was even a comic strip about it called Tank McNamara.
 
BBert said:
Huh? They tanked for Robinson. Then they tanked for Duncan. The original tankers were Houston. There was even a comic strip about it called Tank McNamara.
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They didn't really "tank" for Robinson. They just sucked. They sucked the year before, and they sucked the year after.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
They didn't really "tank" for Robinson. They just sucked. They sucked the year before, and they sucked the year after.
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Which is what most of us in here were advocating for. Get rid of the vets who aren't proven winners and go all youth.

We would have sucked royally last season and probably at least most of this season.

They just didn't call it "tanking" back in the day. But they certainly tanked for Duncan.
 
BBert said:
Huh? They tanked for Robinson. Then they tanked for Duncan. The original tankers were Houston. There was even a comic strip about it called Tank McNamara.
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Yeah, The Admiral was supposed to be back with about 20 games left and they sat all of there other good players.
The post you were replying to would be like someone saying that we didn’t tank any of the last three seasons, we just had an insane amount of injuries.
 
Are the Lakers kicking themselves that they didn’t give the Blazers what they wanted for Rob Williams?
 
BigGameDamian said:
Are the Lakers kicking themselves that they didn’t give the Blazers what they wanted for Rob Williams?
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No - since Rob only lasted 8 minutes before injuring his knee, and played 0 minutes two evening before that - I'm sure the Lakers are happy to keep the unprotected FRP that Cronin demanded.

Cronin should regret not taking the pick with protections or Knecht.
 
At least Cronin doesn’t think we’re one Tony Snell away…
 
MickZagger said:
At least Cronin doesn’t think we’re one Tony Snell away…
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At the beginning of his time as our GM Joe said that our team would never be content with just struggling to make the playoffs and that doing that doesn't make sense. He said what does make sense (even while pissing away the prime of one of the three greatest players this franchise has ever had) was to either attain the highest draft pick possible or contend. Joe said at that time that the biggest mistake a team can make is to be caught in between. Right now we're definitely in between.

Now he owes it to the players to let them "see this through"? It may be a mandate from our non ownership group or in particular our seemingly most meddlesome non owner Bert but any way you slice it, it goes completely against a philosophy Joe once had, that in my opinion is the only way to keep small market teams out of purgatory.
 
blazerkor said:
At the beginning of his time as our GM Joe said that our team would never be content with just struggling to make the playoffs and that doing that doesn't make sense. He said what does make sense (even while pissing away the prime of one of the three greatest players this franchise has ever had) was to either attain the highest draft pick possible or contend. Joe said at that time that the biggest mistake a team can make is to be caught in between. Right now we're definitely in between.

Now he owes it to the players to let them "see this through"? It may be a mandate from our non ownership group or in particular our seemingly most meddlesome non owner Bert but any way you slice it, it goes completely against a philosophy Joe once had, that in my opinion is the only way to keep small market teams out of purgatory.
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I agree with every single thing you just posted.
 
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