Rand Paul calling Trumpcare Dead on Arrival, especially with Sen. Tom Cotton and Ted Cruz also in opposition. The idea that they want to do this in three chunks is fine, but lets not be adding any additional entitlements. Sadly the GOP has had 8 freaking years to plan the end of this atrocity. But first and foremost, repeal the whole thing in its entirety. We already have COBRA overages for when people get laid off....pass a 6 month COBRA bill to cover Obamacare victims, and then build a healthcare overhaul system from scratch. What DC needs is a law that says laws can't be more than 10 pages.
Tote, no offense ever toward you or your viewpoint, as you should know, always.... I admire ya' too much otherwise...
Isn't that a big part of the GOP debacle itself, they never bothered to do anything like work on a proper replacement plan; (knowing they had a good shot at repeal)? To sit for 8 yrs, and not come up with a workable, feasible, sensible health insurance plan for American's. To do nothing to correct a noted problem in advance, and sit on their hands...! Honestly, the GOP had no more clue then, as to what to do, other than to do nothing, and they did nothing, but sit by, innocent bystanders? No.... no one watching was innocent. To sit back and do nothing would be indefensible to all. To do nothing is to shit on the American people. Keep in mind, many working employees, were told, "Your health insurance coverage will NOT change while you remain employed." They were told you are exempt from Obumacare under our own insurance contracts. Other corporations told their employees, we flat out don't know what to expect in the next year to come with Obumacare, and how it will effect you".
These working stiff's health care did change greatly, much higher premiums, up to 400% higher, as well as Out of Pocket expenses, 500% increases, et al, on and on. To make matters worse, current retirees, or vets planning on retiring were told the same: "your benefits will remain the same as they were before Obumacare, and you will see no changes." What a crock of shit, they did change big time, excess costs incurred, an out of control health care system.
In my opinion the GOP owes America a replacement plan.
To say repeal, the try to figure out how to replace, or pick up the pieces without replacement, would be no different imho, than Nancy Pelosi saying: "we got to pass it to understand what it says". What is the difference, b/t repealing with no safety nets? It's imo one and the same, let's vote for repeal, then figure out how to fix this mega fk up, without making it worse; or "let's shoot first, ask Q's later, and while we're at it, lets make it a practice to shoot-from the seat of our half cocked Senate pants". Such a frame of mind, I see no difference b/t the two opposing sides.
Again, imo, we will be thankful, and lucky if its not fucked up even more. Since the Un-Affordable Health Care Act should of never been instituted as it stands, yet there have been some huge benefits with the prior un-insured, as expenses to us-, the taxpayers. Taxpayers even under Obumacare, do not have to cover with paying the entire bills of those uninsured, ntm- local public hospital operating losses, which also come out of the taxpayer trough. I have no problem paying taxes to ensure those who have no health insurance, who truly need it, and are not fkng/milking the system, like millions
are, right here n this state, ie:
- Single Mother's who have numerous children, with several different men/fathers, and have become Welfare baby makers, getting more pay for another child. This is an issue in our fkd up state of Ca. (well, yours too when you get back home, if you don't move to Seattle first).
- Men and women, capable of working, whose long lineage of prior males have never worked, and never will. Can we get a few 1K boats with a one way ticket to the Congo????
...^^^ This !...they gotta completely gut Obama Care first.
...the bill they are trying to get passed right now does very little as far as the big picture goes. Many of the Reps are concerned that a total repeal would cause too much confusion...but if you think about it, do you recall the initial confusion of Obama Care?...hell the website to enlist was not even running properly...yet we still survived that calamity.
... And the majority of the members of the House/Senate didn't even read what they were voting on...gee, I can't imagine why, it was only 2000 pages long !
...IMO, the federal government has no business regulating who of us has insurance and how we acquire it...unless of course we're talking about a form of socialized medicine.
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I do agree tho': the Fed Govt had no business intervening in our affairs to begin with. However now that they have, and fkd up everything with the (U)AHCA. I see no reason to totally eliminate it, rather fix it, revise it once and for all, and yep it does need some tweaking. I guess bottom-line, I have no confidence left in our Congress to fix anything much anymore. They sat by allowed Obumacare, then worst part, shoved it up our asses. If, all that comes of this, is to legitimately insure the un-insured, then I am all for that, but with specific concessions, not in excess of reason. 2ndly, I'd love but don't expect, those who were gainfully or are employed; whose insurance was effected with Obumacare; or replaced with a higher cost of HI, as well as retiree's who paid for their benefits long in advance, over decades of payroll deductions, should see their own insurance return to what it was prior to Obumacare. Hell any improvements, or returning what we had prior would be a huge bonus, but I don't see this ever happening again, ie a return to private enterprise amongst companies, and those who seek insurance, or get such as a benefit of employment, yet pay for it, just not with the same outrageous premiums, expenses.
2nd bottomline, I am beginning to see some improvement in- some reduction of local taxes in a state that only want's to continue to increase taxes. Already, the reduction of, and burden of paying for the un-insured is evident here in local taxes, and for the first time in years, the public hospital, which all taxpayers bail out, saw a profit this last fiscal year.
my own out of pocket expenses are outrageous...
Perhaps, one of the biggest probs with the U-AHCA, was allowing the Feds to tap into SSI, and allow Illegals access to these funds, when they've been getting free health insurance, and these fkrs do not even have any form of I.D.
If you or I, went to an ER, and told them, we have no I.D. they'd tell us to fk off, even tho' legally a public hospital can't...Dr's offices will tho'; less the illegals. This is the shit I have seen to long with my own eyes.....
'was I unwise to leave them open for so long', Or should I opt for the ultra dark blind lenses?
a healthy debate over a debacle, no offense meant to any one at any time, ...
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