We got the #3 pick. Discuss the possibilities.

[tykendo]

took me awhile to realize that was coming from the Toronto fan perspective

I'd like to get Siakam, but in no way am i giving up Sharpe to do it. Ant / #3, Nas, Johnson , fine. I'm not sending Nurk either unless Poetl is coming back in the deal with Siakam.

 

[glazeduck]

I'd like to get Siakam, but in no way am i giving up Sharpe to do it. Ant / #3, Nas, Johnson , fine. I'm not sending Nurk either unless Poetl is coming back in the deal with Siakam.

Even that is too much for me. He's a nice player, but Scoot/Miller + Ant is worth more than that in my opinion. If we can get him for Ant or Nurk and a Future unprotected 1st or something, cool, if not, he's not worth ponying up for. That's a move we'll regret...

 

[BigGameDamian]

Joe has got to have a plan down to a T before the draft. This is a very easy draft to fuck up and a very hard draft to get right. He’s got to stick to his short list of players that he would trade the #3 pick for. I’m sure that short list contains of Jaylen Brown, Pascal Siakam, Mikal Bridges maybe a few more. If he can’t do it then maybe it is time to move on from the Dame era and take either Scoot or Miller and start a new era. I love Dame but I don’t want to see the Blazers string him along and be wishy washy with him.

 

[Predator]

This is disgusting. Hardest of passes.

My favorite thing is (from what I remember) there was someone else saying they don't know if they (the raptors) would do that trade.

If you're Masai and the Blazers GM offered you that trade, you'd have to stay on the phone until that baby is executed cuz that's a gift horse.

 

[Predator]

Joe has got to have a plan down to a T before the draft. This is a very easy draft to fuck up and a very hard draft to get right. He’s got to stick to his short list of players that he would trade the #3 pick for. I’m sure that short list contains of Jaylen Brown, Pascal Siakam, Mikal Bridges maybe a few more. If he can’t do it then maybe it is time to move on from the Dame era and take either Scoot or Miller and start a new era. I love Dame but I don’t want to see the Blazers string him along and be wishy washy with him.

If Siakam is on that list Cronin is a moron.

 

[glazeduck]

Joe has got to have a plan down to a T before the draft. This is a very easy draft to fuck up and a very hard draft to get right. He’s got to stick to his short list of players that he would trade the #3 pick for. I’m sure that short list contains of Jaylen Brown, Pascal Siakam, Mikal Bridges maybe a few more. If he can’t do it then maybe it is time to move on from the Dame era and take either Scoot or Miller and start a new era. I love Dame but I don’t want to see the Blazers string him along and be wishy washy with him.

Drafting Scoot doesn't necessarily have to be the killshot to Dame's tenure here. Sure, it doesn't help like trading for another star would, but if Miller does indeed go 2 and there's not a no-brainer deal on the table for 3, it's an EASY decision to take Scoot and you sell that to Dame by telling him you're taking the most valuable asset and are going to continue shopping him for talent upgrades. I also think it's not unreasonable that they could coexist better together than CJ or Ant, and you're still able to trade Ant/Nurk + future 1s for another star...

To me the way to fuck this up is to overcomplicate the decision. Yes, know your price, but if it's not met, take the best player and keep trying to make the best decisions you can one day at a time...

 

[tykendo]

Even that is too much for me. He's a nice player, but Scoot/Miller + Ant is worth more than that in my opinion. If we can get him for Ant or Nurk and a Future unprotected 1st or something, cool, if not, he's not worth ponying up for. That's a move we'll regret...

Not if it's in a sign and trade. For 1 year yes. But Miller is still unproven, and Siakam is . And is an upper echelon . He's had his way against much of the league. He's the one guy on Toronto who's dominant on both ends.

 

[glazeduck]

Not if it's in a sign and trade. For 1 year yes. But Miller is still unproven, and Siakam is . And is an upper echelon . He's had his way against much of the league. He's the one guy on Toronto who's dominant on both ends.

I don't see it, but plenty do, that's fine.

I'll be pretty underwhelmed if that's the best we get for 3, but I guess we'll see...

 

[tykendo]

Blazers don't need Scoot. They do need a franchise wing ( Siakam, Bridges). Miller might be that guy. Might.

 

[tykendo]

I like what Miller shows skillset wise. That gun thing does worry me, but everyone except that murdering POS deserves a second chance.

 

[tykendo]

I'm sure Miller is getting grilled on that incident.

 

[Natebishop3]

Drafting Scoot doesn't necessarily have to be the killshot to Dame's tenure here. Sure, it doesn't help like trading for another star would, but if Miller does indeed go 2 and there's not a no-brainer deal on the table for 3, it's an EASY decision to take Scoot and you sell that to Dame by telling him you're taking the most valuable asset and are going to continue shopping him for talent upgrades. I also think it's not unreasonable that they could coexist better together than CJ or Ant, and you're still able to trade Ant/Nurk + future 1s for another star...

To me the way to fuck this up is to overcomplicate the decision. Yes, know your price, but if it's not met, take the best player and keep trying to make the best decisions you can one day at a time...

I will just say this. If we go into next season with Dame/Scoot/Ant/Sharpe on this roster I will absolutely rage.

 

[glazeduck]

Blazers don't need Scoot. They do need a franchise wing ( Siakam, Bridges). Miller might be that guy. Might.

One's all upside and almost immeasurable ceiling. The other guy might be completely capped out but super safe floor...

Despite what I said above, it's admittedly challenging to reconcile Dame's future if you're drafting Scoot, but I think in the short term, a Dame/Scoot/Sharpe alignment would be fun as well to watch...

 

[glazeduck]

I will just say this. If we go into next season with Dame/Scoot/Ant/Sharpe on this roster I will absolutely rage.

Yeah I think it's safe to say something would have gone wrong there if that happens. Any chance of keeping Dame happy with drafting Scoot almost mandates us trading Ant, agree there.

 

[tykendo]

Yeah I think it's safe to say something would have gone wrong there if that happens. Any chance of keeping Dame happy with drafting Scoot almost mandates us trading Ant, agree there.

Hey, if Scoots so good, play him at center. I did read where Jordan said going to Portland was dumb with Drexler already there. So i guess he didn't want to play center ( Bobby Knights reference to Blazers GM Stu Inman, that he should draft Jordan anyways, and play him at center). For the younger fans in here.

 

[PCmor7]

Blazers don't need Scoot. They do need a franchise wing ( Siakam, Bridges). Miller might be that guy. Might.

OK, hypothetical question: If Miller goes 2, Bridges is off the table and the Raptors ask an unreasonable return for Siakam, what would you do?

Because this ^ is a very possible scenario.

You've posted multiple times that "we don't need Scoot." You ALWAYS need talent, and acquiring inferior talent in favor of need almost always backfires sooner or later. Especially in basketball, where you only play 9 guys per game big minutes and especially in current basketball where position isn't the be-all it used to be.

Trading Scoot because you need a wing is not the way, if the wing you can get for Scoot is OG Anunoby or similar talent. There are more ways to achieve your need for a wing and improve your overall talent by drafting Scoot if the right deal isn't present, e.g. trading Ant after drafting Scoot.

 

[tykendo]

OK, hypothetical question: If Miller goes 2, Bridges is off the table and the Raptors ask an unreasonable return for Siakam, what would you do?

Because this ^ is a very possible scenario.

You've posted multiple times that "we don't need Scoot." You ALWAYS need talent, and acquiring inferior talent in favor of need almost always backfires sooner or later. Especially in basketball, where you only play 9 guys per game big minutes and especially in current basketball where position isn't the be-all it used to be.

Trading Scoot because you need a wing is not the way, the wing you can get for Scoot is OG Anunoby or similar talent. There are more ways to achieve your need for a wing and improve your overall talent by drafting Scoot if the right deal isn't present, e.g. trading Ant after drafting Scoot.

I also agree that a nice trade of Ant / unlocked future 1st will be available to net a second upper echelon talent.

 

[tykendo]

Still think the Nets will be all in on acquiring Scoot when it's all said and done. I know they love Bridges. But it's freaking NY. They want Splashy. I'm sure Jay Zzer is already pumped up at the possibility.

 

[HansenYang]

Question;

What are thoughts on Dame trade value in regard to the potential drafting of Scoot prior/after the draft? I'm thinking Dame has more value before we draft Scoot. Once we have an additional PG on the roster, does Dame's value lessen because of the perceived need to move Dame?

Irrelevant to Dame's value

 

[lamlor]

There's no doubt change needs to be made, but Ingram is not the answer especially when that'd be an awful return for dame lol.

Beyond the fact that Nola would never do it since there's 10 years of anecdotal evidence showing he and CJ don't get you a championship.

From what I was just reading, they may look to deal CJ out of town.

And I never believed CJ and Dame wouldn't work. They wouldn't work with the front court Portland always put around them.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

I'd like to get Siakam, but in no way am i giving up Sharpe to do it. Ant / #3, Nas, Johnson , fine. I'm not sending Nurk either unless Poetl is coming back in the deal with Siakam.

Poetl can't come back, he's a free agent.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

Even that is too much for me. He's a nice player, but Scoot/Miller + Ant is worth more than that in my opinion. If we can get him for Ant or Nurk and a Future unprotected 1st or something, cool, if not, he's not worth ponying up for. That's a move we'll regret...

Yeah, gonna be a free agent next year on a 200+ million contract... He should be worth a bit more than Grant. I'd give up Ant but not #3.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

Blazers don't need Scoot. They do need a franchise wing ( Siakam, Bridges). Miller might be that guy. Might.

Blazers need talent more than anything else.

 

[Tince]

OK, hypothetical question: If Miller goes 2, Bridges is off the table and the Raptors ask an unreasonable return for Siakam, what would you do?

Because this ^ is a very possible scenario.

You've posted multiple times that "we don't need Scoot." You ALWAYS need talent, and acquiring inferior talent in favor of need almost always backfires sooner or later. Especially in basketball, where you only play 9 guys per game big minutes and especially in current basketball where position isn't the be-all it used to be.

Trading Scoot because you need a wing is not the way, if the wing you can get for Scoot is OG Anunoby or similar talent. There are more ways to achieve your need for a wing and improve your overall talent by drafting Scoot if the right deal isn't present, e.g. trading Ant after drafting Scoot.

Cronin has to maximize value.

Cronin has to factor in how likely Dame is to ask out if the Blazers draft Scoot and what he believes he can get for Dame in return. At that point, look at the two scenarios are pick the best one for the organization.

 

[James lamphear]

What ever the Blazers do they need quality players. If you can bring something back from the no# 3 pick it's has to be a quality player. I don't think Simons and the 3 pick is not going bring back super star so it's just nonsense believing that altogether. Yes I would love bridges but Brooklyn is not getting rid of bridges. You might pull off OG or even skiam but not both but they are both quality players. I might like to see them trade down with Orlando for 6 & 11 and one of there quality player and still going get get a couple quality young players for the future. As GM you trying to both side of the ball get quality player to make Dame happy and still look towards the future and trading down to 6 & 11 and get quality veteran you just might get what you want.

 

[wizenheimer]

This made me sad

"Why on earth did they trade josh hart?!? He’s the perfect 3 and d “Danny green type” to compliment lillard.

Lillard - hart - grant - nurkic — you could argue that team is a pascal trade away from contending."

do you honestly believe that Cronin would have traded Hart if Hart told Cronin he would re-sign in Portland?

just about every indicator, including Hart's own words, was that Hart wasn't going to re-sign unless Portland overpaid significantly

 

[Pinwheel1]

Blazers don't need Scoot. They do need a franchise wing ( Siakam, Bridges). Miller might be that guy. Might.

If they are unsure about Miller then I wonder if they take a more conservative approach. We all want to hit a home run but maybe we compromise.
We trade the pick to Orlando for Franz Wagner, re-sign Grant, and draft a center at 23. That gets us a comparable player to Miller, if not better and who is still only 22
but who has two years of NBA experience. Wagner is ready to contribute to a playoff team now. He also weighs over 220 and I think would fit well with Grant.

We resign Cam and sign someone with the MLE so we have additional salaries to include around the trade deadline. I think that is a solid team with youth, and it still leaves us with assets to trade.

 

[wizenheimer]

if Scoot is as good as some of you Scoot-fans claim, Charlotte will draft him at 2

 

[riverman]

I think the Blazers have now put a great scouting team on staff and those folks have followed some of these players whole careers and actually seen them play, etc...when it comes to the draft I have more confidence in this front office than most folks. Biggest question mark will be Cronin's ability to work with other GMs in getting deals done. Thee draft is in good hands I think. I like Schmidt as that guy.

 

[LayneStaley]

Watching Brown right now is making me hesitant to trade the 3rd pick for him. I don’t know if him and Tatum just don’t gel but he looks like he’s just going through the motions.